Why is there a freelo build that's easy to access?

Illabethe·Jul 19, 2019·1 votes·817 views

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Why does this exist?

Noble has ONE weakness: Prone to auto attacks (Means assassins etc can kill, Yordle full comps can kill)

Guess what? SHEN.

Shen alone can make your team immune to almost ALL incoming damage....

I won this game with 100 HP left, and the last two players actually sold all their champions to surrender the match!

Between Garen's Skill + Shen's skill, from Match 2, I couldn't die. Like..... in all the rounds the game took, I maybe had 5 champions die TOTAL.

What's worse is...... the core of this build isn't hard to get at all.... I just hard to the painted the Vayne, and then just waited out matches for random shops. That's ALL.

8 Comments

Panthaz89Jul 19, 20192 votes

Nobles aren't even close to a top meta build anymore and they are incredibly weak against sorcers and vulnerable to getting permafrozen by glacials, along with killed by assassins, demons(true dmg mana burn +aatrox/brand/morg ults). Gunslingers with a lot of on hit effects that disarm/shrink/silence your entire team because they can attack more than one target.

hrooza dota Jul 19, 20192 votes

noble, the high armor high regen is nowhere weak to AA based comps its weak to magic nuke, sorc X 6 destroy nobles once they cast their spells and nobles lack of damage/CC cant stop them from that, imperial have a mix of high magic damage Swain and massive AA damage Draven who build item 3094 so your little shen is useless gun slingers would also fuck over nobles if they get the on hit items they need.

not to forget how hard it is to get the late nobles and how weak the buff mid game before that.

IllabetheJul 19, 20191 votes

Except getting Swain built up is almost more impossible than building up a Noble team.

Also, the reason Shen is broken on a team like this isn't because of sorc team or whatever; it's the fact that Shen can cast his skill in the initial phases of the fight. Sorcs need a few autos to prime up, and are taking hits, while your team isn't. By the time an Imperial/Sorc team "Casts" you've already killed their front line, Kayle is ulting your team, and Leona is stunning the casters.

Sequence of events matters.

Also, any argument that relies on "items" is a flawed one that generally relies purely on RNG.

hrooza dota Jul 19, 20191 votes

i never said swain is the only counter i said he can counter, theres to many mages out there that can nuke nobles to another planet.

sorc can gain mana if they miss, their hits do no damage anyway and shen wont matter vs them and you hits are not that overwhelming for sorc comp [ not to forget their front line drain mana] also kayle wont ulti everyone and leona only hit one and wont hit the caster because her Al sucks and casters have lulu who would cast before her front line die, you are dreaming if you think shen would stop sorc from nuking your team.

getting 1 or 2 on hit is not hard if you pick the needed items from shared draft.

ShadWoooJul 19, 20191 votes

There is no freelo build/comp because you cannot guarantee any of above.

I played nobles twice in last 4 games, in game1 I got only vayne to level3 rest was t2 with really shit items. Got kayle 2 rounds before Dragon, but it was too late. In the previous game I didn't get Kayle at all. She wasn't in the pre-dragon carousel, she wasn't in my shop. On top of that I ended the game with 8x vayne 8x fiora and 4x lucian. So I had Shen and Lulu instead both t2 and got stomped by wild/shapeshifters in a way I lost 25hp and ended 4th.

You were just lucky - I assume you got powerful item/champ combo from start, sit on gold, bought XP/champs only for gold above 50 in order to extend your lead, you got lucky with rolls and you were able to get basically everything to level 3. And because you were stomping others and they were losing lots of hitpoints you knocked them out before they have been granted the generous rng.

Been there done that. Has nothing to do with team comp.

BigFBearJul 19, 20191 votes

I dont get the Noble buff:

Does it mean if you have 3 Nobles on the field only ONE of them has the buff? And if you have 6 your whole team has the buff?

Wild GeeseJul 19, 20191 votes

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I dont get the Noble buff:

Does it mean if you have 3 Nobles on the field only ONE of them has the buff? And if you have 6 your whole team has the buff?

So if you have 3 nobles 1 random team member has the buff (including non-nobes). If you have 6, the entire team has the buff (including non-nobles).