How do you guys feel about permanent Grievous Wounds?

Illabethe·8/17/2019, 5:03:41 AM·2 votes·1,231 views

Riot Mort announced on his twitter some second round nerfs to Morello/Red Buff with a deceptionally strong twist:

https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1161741414872440833

Grievous will only reduce healing by 80%, so a small bit of healing will go through.

Damage per second will take another 33% hit right after it was dropped by 50%.

BUT:

20% over 10 Seconds Duration changed to

#60% over 45 Seconds

In other words, Once Grievous wounds is applied in TFT, the result will be for all intents and purposes of a match..... PERMANENT.

So, even if their Morello user or Red Buff user dies, the debuff will remain on your Swain/GA/Shyvana/Shen/Braum for the remainder of the round, burning health off slowly.

What do you guys think of that?

9 Comments

tires8/17/2019, 6:15:35 AM3 votes

I don’t understand what the point of it was.

I’m happy to see the heal reduction go from 100% to 80% sure, but at the same time they also announce nerfs to a large number of healing mechanics (the only ones I can currently think of that aren’t listed are Nidalee’s and Warwick’s)? Seems counterintuitive to what they’re trying to achieve.

In an attempt to break it down more, I’m gonna do a lil math (pray for me this isn’t my best subject).

Let’s assume you have a Vayne with 1000hp (just for an example). She also has a bloodthirster.

Now if she gets hit with a grievious wound from either item, she’d be taking 60% of her hp (600) in damage over 45 seconds (coming to 13.33 damage per second).

Now just for the sake of simplicity, let’s assume her attack speed is a flat 1.00, or one attack per second. With bloodthirster equipped, she’d heal for 40% of attack damage, and then that amount is reduced to 20% due to grievious. Meaning just to negate the damage from the burn alone, she would have to hit at minimum 166.67 per attack every second for 45 seconds.

This is solely to keep her health even from the burn, not heal up any additional damage from any other source whatsoever....

I appreciate the direction they were trying to take on the oppression of grievious but I don’t really think this will be the best way to go about it.

If they do end up implementing it, I’m assuming the best way to counter would be running 3 star lulu and hope extra hp from lulu ability + the small amount of hp regen that gets through the grievious would be enough to survive.

PeachsProperty8/17/2019, 5:56:43 AM2 votes

so red buff means no more knights/guardian/brawler comps?

cause 60% health DoT from 1 proc is gonna do that..

Wickedlike8/17/2019, 6:36:06 AM1 votes

I think the only healing char that will make it will be 6 glash 4 braw or 6 braw 4 glash voli with Gunso BT for 3d item RFC, deffence or on hit effects.

Xhandel8/17/2019, 6:45:31 AM1 votes

To me, its the peak of stupidity and i dont know who the hell is on drugs on riot to propose this and who was high enough to approve it for thesting.

Lets separate the thing.

60% damage over 45 seconds:

First of all, the limit time before urf is 30 seconds, if you get hit either by red buff or morellos, you will be with grievous wounds for the entire fight, urf time included.

Second, right now, morellos and red buff do 20% damage over 10 seconds, that is 2% per second, 60% over 45 seconds is 1.3% per second, that is NOTHING, and to finish:

Third, The healing will be reduced to 80%, this means 20% healing for items, if you look at the incredibly low damage explained on the sacond point, you will realize that the opponent will have enough healing to counter that effect.

My current conlcusion: If they change those 2 items that way, i'm pretty sure no one will build them, those will be the new sword of the divine pre 9.16, dead items waiting 2 weeks to be addresed again.

Its funny that they said they dont want red buff and morellos to be tank destroyers, when, right now, is the only way to deal with tanks unless you get a jinx or a draven.

PleasantVirgin8/17/2019, 8:12:12 AM1 votes

I mean 10 seconds was nothing right? Just look we play without our carries' items for 8 seconds every other round and it doesn't feel bad at all haha. Enjoy this game I'm sorry but this fucking shit show is owned by bad people. :(