literally just normalise item drops, and have minions drop the same amount of items for everyone.
edit.: after reading the comments and checking out underlords, i changed my mind. dont just normalize item drops, adopt their system. it looks way more interesting. they let you chose one out of a few items, or permanent perks instead. and if you lose the pve round, you dont get to chose, but get a random item instead.
aLawfulFalafel17 votesi know right, tired of getting one single piece of gold, looking at other peoples screen and they have items, like, why cant everyone start on equal grounds?
DeleteSuppRole2 votesAmen brother
DeusVult2 votesthe worst is when you go through minion rounds and you get 1 item (for a total of 2) and some gold, but you are stuck with all 1 star champs, meanwhile here comes mr 2 completed items on his 2 star...
Morbys1 votesThis right here, item drops need to be normalized, the only thing that should be RNG is what item drops
Phreaktastic2 votesthe worst is when you go through minion rounds and you get 1 item (for a total of 2) and some gold, but you are stuck with all 1 star champs, meanwhile here comes mr 2 completed items on his 2 star...
Yeah, or the extremely lucky one with 2x 2 stars. I've even seen a 3 star Vayne in Stage 2 with RFC and RB. Wonder how that'd be?
The thing that's frustrating in that scenario, is the win streak bonus 100% guarantees an even greater lead. Compound that with the fact that the extremely lucky person can shoot for eco far earlier than everyone else, and they've essentially just been given a huge pile of gold in addition to the champs/items. Players with extremely minimal knowledge on how it all works will say it balances out in carousel, but that's 100% false. That'd only be the case if 1-2 of a single item were in carousel, and said item was leaps and bounds better than the rest. Not only that, but I've seen players pass on completed items in carousel a multitude of times, especially in late game when people are trying to finish 3 stars and niche items.
Bregan6 voteshell, FIVE gold is not worth ONE item.
hoganftw6 votesIt's a terrible game design choice and they're really really doubling down on it. Until further notice, Underlords it is.
Arakadia2 votesWhat is underlords?
iainB853 votesIt's the DOTA equivalent of TFT. Similar game style but with DOTA champions instead... and they have listened to feedback and normalized item drops already.
Arakadia1 votesAhh okay thank you!
Critmaster Garen1 votesIt's the DOTA equivalent of TFT. Similar game style but with DOTA champions instead... and they have listened to feedback and normalized item drops already.
they have a really good system it seems.
instead of random item drops, youre offered a group of perks on minion rounds. this could either be an item, simple as that, or it could be unit specific buffs for your whole team like "non knight units gain 15% damage reduction when the knight synergy is active", or it could be something like "next minion round youre offered one additional item to chose from".
and if you lose that minion round, you dont get to chose but just a random item.
Warix35 votesEveryone is saying this but they don't want to listen for some reason.
IkBenShteen3 votesI'm not saying items aren't really important during the game, but getting 1 gold in the first round allows you to build tier 2 units faster. I've had plenty of games where I had 1 gold drops from the first wave of minions, and proceeded to literally destroy anything in my path. Because you get one more champ -> they can't have it. If you have good items but a shit comp/champs, you'll lose regardless of items. It's the one gold that sometimes makes a difference between having that level 3 unit or not.
CloudedLogic4 votesExcept not really. You can just go into the fight with a two star unit, and lock your shop for the round to get the three star. If that three star is the difference between surviving to the next round or not, then you weren't going to win with it regardless.
That being said in my last game's raptors I didn't even get the pity gold, I got literally nothing.
Bregan1 votesThat being said in my last game's raptors I didn't even get the pity gold, I got literally nothing.
apparently thats a current bug that they're fixing next patch.
CloudedLogic1 votesMakes me feel alive T.T
IkBenShteen1 votesExcept not really. You can just go into the fight with a two star unit, and lock your shop for the round to get the three star. If that three star is the difference between surviving to the next round or not, then you weren't going to win with it regardless.
That being said in my last game's raptors I didn't even get the pity gold, I got literally nothing.
I'm not saying that I'd rather earn gold than items. But at least you get to earn a bit gold if you're unlucky with items. Most people that are becoming a bit proficient with this gamemode understand that the most important thing in this mode is building a decent comp. Items are nice to haves but if I build an assassin comp and itemize them fully and run into a yordle comp, well bye bye. Anyways, I see my last comment got downvoted. If you dislike the fact you get gold instead of items, there's always summoner's rift, tt or ha to play. Have fun!
CloudedLogic1 votesI'm not saying that I'd rather earn gold than items. But at least you get to earn a bit gold if you're unlucky with items. Most people that are becoming a bit proficient with this gamemode understand that the most important thing in this mode is building a decent comp. Items are nice to haves but if I build an assassin comp and itemize them fully and run into a yordle comp, well bye bye. Anyways, I see my last comment got downvoted. If you dislike the fact you get gold instead of items, there's always summoner's rift, tt or ha to play. Have fun!
Not the one who downvoted it, but one comp countering another has nothing to do with what I said. If someone out RNGs you then great but I am of the opinion that the first three waves should give minimum 3 items (probably should have a cap too but that isn't what I am here to talk about, not to mention it likely already does). At least this way, you can try to use the drafts to help build a comp with support. Items are just too powerful for someone to get 3-5, when another person gets 0 and like 7 gold. At least if the average number of items is closer then there is a little less room to be rng stomped.
Some of the RNG is needed, but the swing in items can be lessened imo.
untrendy1 votessince this guaranteed drops update, I've had the most no item rounds-in a row-games I've had. EVER. this was supposed to normalize things but it really just pounds a few people into the dirt and blesses like 2 players with great drops.
Tomy kun1 votesIt's really dumb, sometimes i'll get some shit gold and one time i got FOUR drops... FOUR!
Ranked means nothing in TFT, if everyone plays enough they can call themselves challenger TFT player, try and manage placing top 4 and have 2-3 comps you can play with off the bat and PRAY ITEM RNG is in your favor if you wanna get that #1 spot.
General Esdeath 1 votesOK OK I hear what you're asking for, and I got the perfect solution.
1 less minion round for you if you get gold from the item box!
BigFBear1 votesI guess I should check out Dota Underlords too. Riot showed me that I like this genre but Underlords seems to be the better game.
DARCKD00M1 voteswhy can't i sell my items for one gold the same way i sell my champs? come on riot it's clearly the next step in improving tft since gold and items have equal balance value!
carbonX1231 votesFIX THE DROP RATE OF ITEMS!