Anyone realize that an Enemy Syndra with the new skin...

ModAcademy Kayn·Apr 30, 2015·33 votes·8,737 views

Looks better then your own Syndra? This makes me sad inside. If you play Syndra with the new skin, the enemy team gets a better Visual Experience than you will.

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Stealthless5Apr 30, 20153 votes

My question is, if the red particles for her spheres are already in-game (enemy Syndra in a mirror matchup) why can't they just give the Queen of Diamonds skin the red particles and make it so that if you have a QoD Syndra vs. Syndra, the enemy Syndra will have the original purple particles?

Seems like it wouldn't be that hard to implement (emphasis on "seems" as it may actually be difficult).

RiotmoonstonesApr 30, 201517 votes

It's not that it would be difficult, but the different colors are implemented for gameplay. Since her kit involves interacting with orbs, it's important to know which orbs are yours, and which are from an enemy Syndra (in the case of Blind Pick).

Mr SpaceKookApr 30, 201510 votes

Soooooo....Lets make them diamonds? :D I just really want this skin to be cool :(. I love the concept and how the model looks, but the base orbs look dumb with it.

ModAcademy KaynApr 30, 20152 votes

But wasn't he saying that the enemy Syndra would have the Purple Sphere's while, you're given the Red Spheres? Or is it under the circumstance where "Red is bad, avoid"?

RiotmoonstonesApr 30, 20158 votes

It's a gameplay clarity thing, where yeah, red is bad, and also knowing which orbs you should be interacting with.

SolaxoApr 30, 20154 votes

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It's a gameplay clarity thing, where yeah, red is bad, and also knowing which orbs you should be interacting with.

because of this whole "clarity" we can't have nice things... It happens too often

BiffoloMay 1, 20153 votes

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because of this whole "clarity" we can't have nice things... It happens too often

But this clarity makes a significant difference in the way people play the game at a more insinctual level. It's like when I used to play for a "good" battlefield team, we would run green lasers instead of red. We found it caused a tenth of a second reaction delay that got people killed. Stupid things like that can make massive differences and maybe even end games.

ModAcademy KaynApr 30, 20152 votes

I forget that other Syndra's W/o the QoD skin would still have the red, not just the enemy Syndra with it.

Would be funny, like Draven catching other Draven's axes though, to be able to use other Syndra's orbs. That would kinda fix the problem right there.

GroundRuleDoubleMay 1, 20151 votes

According to the Wiki, you can use another Syndra's orbs (Never played her though).

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Syndra/SkinsTrivia

EyrgosMay 1, 20151 votes

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It's a gameplay clarity thing, where yeah, red is bad, and also knowing which orbs you should be interacting with.

Reshape the orb-models into diamonds then... and perhaps give a subtle, soft red hue or tint to them (like a magenta).

That, or simply diamond-shaping + enhancing the purple on her outfit so it legitimately matches well to the orbs (the weak touches of purple aren't cutting it, currently).

ExaltedVanguardMay 1, 20153 votes

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It's a gameplay clarity thing, where yeah, red is bad, and also knowing which orbs you should be interacting with.

So make them white?

Or just change the enemy orbs to something other than red when you're using the skin?

Or just change enemy orb colors in general to something else?

There's a dozen different fixes to this problem that don't involve making this skin shitty.

EyrgosMay 1, 20151 votes

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It's a gameplay clarity thing, where yeah, red is bad, and also knowing which orbs you should be interacting with.

Major Bullshit about red particles.

Primo example: Forsaken Jayce (minus the random blue gate fail).

https://youtu.be/hSbZGRiL5LQ?t=1m5s

Change it to red diamonds.

RiotmoonstonesMay 1, 20153 votes

This is a completely different instance, as he doesn't interact with that particle like Syndra does with her orbs.

In addition, Forskaen Jayce is a 1350 RP skin, so he has different particles.

We don't have plans to change the particles for Queen of Diamonds Syndra.

EyrgosMay 1, 20151 votes

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RiotmoonstonesMay 1, 20152 votes

They're actually particle effects hooked up to an invisible minion, which is why they can be interacted with.

EyrgosMay 1, 20152 votes

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They're actually particle effects hooked up to an invisible minion, which is why they can be interacted with.

Aah, my bad, I misread your other quote about models & particles.

If the shape won't change, how about making them white? And changing the purple-lacing on the skin to white, along with giving the skin hair again?

What about Ezreal, can his particles change? He has no other skin besides PFE with updated particles (and he has a lot of skins...), he's well past due for updated particles on another skin.

We're okay with delaying these skins to do them proper justice.

Even with upping them to 975 tier (which it seems many of us would greatly prefer... it's only $2 & some change).

kneel on IceApr 30, 20152 votes

Diamonds please

AbyssphereApr 30, 20153 votes

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It's not that it would be difficult, but the different colors are implemented for gameplay. Since her kit involves interacting with orbs, it's important to know which orbs are yours, and which are from an enemy Syndra (in the case of Blind Pick).

You could probably pick a different colour for QOD's particles then. I'm sure more colours than just red would match her model.

EyrgosMay 1, 20152 votes

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You could probably pick a different colour for QOD's particles then. I'm sure more colours than just red would match her model.

Different color would suffice, diamond shape is an essential change though.

Stealthless5May 1, 20151 votes

Thanks Katey, appreciate you clarifying that for me as I was just curious if it was possible.

On a side note, completely unrelated, but you may be able to pass this on to the skin team. On SSW Talon his collar on the right side doesn't attach to his jacket when he is in his in-game stance. It sticks out quite a bit and looks out of place. Just thought I would point that out.

RiotmoonstonesMay 1, 20153 votes

No problem! I can take a look at the collar when I get in the office tomorrow. Thanks for bringing it up! :]

reborn40May 1, 20151 votes

I thought riot was open 24/7

NebuulMay 1, 20151 votes

4 words: Blood moon thresh ultimate

kneel on IceMay 1, 20152 votes

Just change orbs into diamonds and stop making this so hard

ModAcademy KaynMay 1, 20151 votes

What if we ask really really nicely?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m37gmxByRH1r9rjs4.gif

Hís LambMay 1, 20153 votes

Unless they changed it recently, I sorta felt the same way about Forsaken Jayce's skin, in terms of his gate. Everything is so thematically red, and then suddenly a blue gate pops out of no where. I can understand why they did it-- for clarity and such-- but it did ever so slighty bother me. Other than that, they did an awesome job with it. Jayce