looks like traditional skins are a thing of the past

Since I own every champion, I just liked getting the free traditional skin ; ;

RIP free skin :P

[{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=kRdBlugE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-07T19:00:14.675+0000)

Heya!

Ququroon made a great post when Sion was updates that explains why we're moving away from traditional skins -

As you've said, we did create three traditional skins a while back. In the past, we used Traditional skins as a way of allowing players to represent the older merits of a character that we may have glazed over during the creation process. We weren't always confident in what we were shipping, and in extreme cases, necessitated a traditional skin to execute on them in a way they should have been done. This is shown to an extreme in the case of Karma's fans, something that we know we could have done better.

The team has been doing updates for two years or so now, and we have a bit more moxie as to how this whole rodeo goes. We feel we're able to better respect the old, while pushing the bar as hard as we can. We didn't up and change Sion from an undead to a frozen warrior. He's still the same exact fantasy he was before, just executed in a way that he was originally meant to be.

If the team as it is now existed in the past, there are mistakes that we wouldn't have repeated. Karma wouldn't have lacked her fans. Trundle would have better enveloped the 'leper jesus' he was so affectionately known for. Sejuani would have just realized that a bikini wasn't appropriate snow wear. These are things that could be fixed in the future, but we prefer to continue moving forward, as there are still a large amount of characters that need some love coughpoppycoughevecough.

Essentially, we don't feel like traditional skins are the correct answer- the only way to show our love for older content. We still push for constant and continuous improvement in our updates, but we want to do so in a way that best shows respect for older content as a whole package.

Hope this explains the situation a bit better. :3

whens jax and fizz vu

If the team as it is now existed in the past, there are mistakes that we wouldn't have repeated. Karma wouldn't have lacked her fans. Trundle would have better enveloped the 'leper jesus' he was so affectionately known for. Sejuani would have just realized that a bikini wasn't appropriate snow wear. These are things that could be fixed in the future, but we prefer to continue moving forward, as there are still a large amount of characters that need some love coughpoppycoughevecough.

I'm quite happy about you/Riot acknowledging such mistakes and I hope we see can see fixes in the future :C one day maybe. Especially trundle, he was my only jungle champion and I loved his story but now I don't feel a connection to him at all so I dropped him. :/ its just not trundle, its some ice troll in his place. But thank you for acknowledging these issues. It shows Riot is listening and is learning

instead the way for showing love for older content is deleting lore

Surely you could agree that changing the beard length on the Spooky skin wouldn't be that hard of a change? Spooky GP already has torn sleeves, tatty overcoat and a worn tricorne hat, just like the current GP. Letting "current GP" live on in his spiritual successor, the Spooky skin, would be a great nod to the current champion.

With respect to those other champions, has a clear identity. He fits in pirate mythology as much as Jack Sparrow or Captain Blackbeard does. His current skin evokes a rough-and-ready privateer storming ahead fearless into battle. The difference with the referenced champions Ququroon spoke of in his original post had something in common: their themes didn't fit their backstory. The tranquil balance of the fans or the bikini in the snow don't apply to Gangplank. His identity is strong, clear and concise. He wasn't thrown together with disparate thematic parts here and there like "boar-riding, bikini-clad warrioress."

He's a privateer, a mercenary, a gun for hire--scourge of the sea. I think everyone would agree that GP's identity isn't as muddled as those previously referenced champions/VUs.

[{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=kRdBlugE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-07T19:00:14.675+0000)

Heya!

Ququroon made a great post when Sion was updates that explains why we're moving away from traditional skins -

Essentially, we don't feel like traditional skins are the correct answer- the only way to show our love for older content. We still push for constant and continuous improvement in our updates, but we want to do so in a way that best shows respect for older content as a whole package.

Hope this explains the situation a bit better. :3

You could literally just copy-paste his current model and voice over as his traditional skin... which is pretty much all that people want from a traditional Gangplank skin.

His old voice is one of the best in LoL imo

[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=kRdBlugE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-07T19:08:55.114+0000)

Of course it's pointless. They don't make money out of them.

so you fucking mean to tell me when they sell that bigass skin bundle (which they always do) containing the traditional skin

they didn't make any money?