why do LCS zombies copy everything the pros do

F03··105 votes·4,698 views

except for upgrading and using the god damn trinkets.

Whats so hard about dropping 250 G to be able to SEE where the enemy is (including stealth enemies if you use a god damn pink ward)

Its not even a one time use thing. YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR TRINKETS UNLESS YOU SELL IT IN GAME.

77 Comments

Baby Ghoul47 votes

"Wards don't do damage." - every player in my unranked games, even supports.

Ariel the Cruel34 votes

They damage my faith in those players.

Well... Technically no, since I had none to begin with. But that's beside the point!

A Miss Fortune7 votes

Ariel you're a beautiful person

Ariel the Cruel9 votes

You and I have very different criteria for "beauty".

Vellich0r4 votes

Stop being so cruel about it, ariel.

Ariel the Cruel4 votes

Not an option. It's in the name. ;p

SlytherinUmbreon1 votes

What's in a name?

Ariel the Cruel7 votes

Letters. Usually. Sometimes just sounds.

Schenix7 votes

Bard

Davy Crockett3 votes

But that's not important.

Hatless Casual2 votes

I was going to say "you have faith in these people!?".

Good save.

crunchymunchys3 votes

{quoted}

"Wards don't do damage." - every player in my unranked games, even supports.

Jesus what kind of hell do you live in and can i be on the enemy team the whole time? it would be like playing eve but on someone else all the time!

junglerboy163 votes

wherever he's at, if one team is like that, both teams are probably like that.

MohawkBird2 votes

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DrathTurtle3142 votes

So now everyone can be Heimerdinger? No thank you.

IllllllIIIIlllll17 votes

lol nice one ... everybody know that spend 250 GOLD for trinket is noob trap

trinket don't give u damage mate, u could use that 250 gold to get ur last whisper faster . in fact u shouldn't even take the free trinket cuz it doesn't give u gold... the ONLY trinket that MIGHT be worth it is the scanning lens so u can get gold from last hitting wards

F035 votes

{quoted}

lol nice one ... everybody know that spend 250 GOLD for trinket is noob trap

trinket don't give u damage mate, u could use that 250 gold to get ur last whisper faster . in fact u shouldn't even take the free trinket cuz it doesn't give u gold... the ONLY trinket that MIGHT be worth it is the scanning lens so u can get gold from last hitting wards

i hope you are saying you agree with me

IcyPepper20 votes

I think he's being sarcastic, so yes I think he is.

Ariel the Cruel15 votes

the ONLY trinket that MIGHT be worth it is the scanning lens so u can get gold from last hitting wards

Why bother? You last-hit all the ones I find already.

~ A support main

Łunacy3 votes

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Why bother? You last-hit all the ones I find already.

~ A support main

I don't, I give them to my support.

~ An ADC main.

Eibhleann1 votes

What level do you play at? Just wondering. I don't play much ranked because it seems like I find more skilled teammates in team builder, but I'm low bronze. Good games, bad games, good positioning, bad positioning, but I try to use my trinket and I try to remember to upgrade it when I hit 9... I mainly ADC and I try to work with my support so that we can both have gold (ie I don't flip sh*t if they get the kill), and really it doesn't bother me at all because I get all -not all, just what I manage to last hit- of the cs. If I get a ward they found, it's because I tried to hit it once so they wouldn't have to sit there for 5 seconds trying to kill it. On behalf of non-garbage marksmen (and women) everywhere: we love you. (if I could insert my summoner icon here, I would)

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

I've been unranked for 5 seasons. I've played with everything from bronze to plat. So where I sit, only Riot knows. . . . And even that's questionable since I do a lot of troll stuff in games. (Shyvana mid, anyone?) XD

Matezoide16 votes

Because they find warding to be boring and it doesnt make your champion stronger.

Thats pretty much it.

LaceUp237 votes

No no no. These players do not copy everything the pros do whatsoever. Things that I WISH they copied: getting as many cs as they can, not diving 1v4, not fighting a lost lane, warding in general, communicating, not playing Yi support, not playing a champ that they have 0 practice games with, playing safe if the enemy is better than you, not pushing the lane with no vision, not intentionally feeding, and not afking.

It seems like the only thing they actually copy is what champs to pick.

Ipols2 votes

lol true. They also copy champs to ban and item builds (which is bad since those are situational builds. Prepare to see a full armor Gragas going vs Teemo, Cassio and Corki if in the LCS they played Gragas vs a full AD team)

ChaosThief6 votes

The sheep blindly follow the pros. Except they are a bit stubborn about vision.

LookMyBigBrain17 votes

Thats why they "blindly" follow the pros. Get it?

Döpe3 votes

LeeSin item 3070

Ace Access 1 votes

of course their blind about the potential of Vi Sion you get when you upgrade to item 3361 item 3362 ;)

Ipols4 votes

Last game I was Vi Jungle and I wanted to end my trinity force (Last item and the game was going to be long and stalled) Instead I felt like upgrading the red trinket and leaving my sheen alone in the inventory. 1 minutes later I clear 2 wards in the nashor pit, the enemy team comes to check if we are doing it, we ace them from a brush and we win the game.

item 3341 OP

Tails Doll4 votes

{quoted}

Last game I was Vi Jungle and I wanted to end my trinity force (Last item and the game was going to be long and stalled) Instead I felt like upgrading the red trinket and leaving my sheen alone in the inventory. 1 minutes later I clear 2 wards in the nashor pit, the enemy team comes to check if we are doing it, we ace them from a brush and we win the game.

item 3341 OP

So, you are telling me, you waited till you were basically full build and just then you decided to upgrade red trinket? SMH.

Ipols4 votes

Yes I'm proud to admit both my errors and my good choices!

SquishyArchon3 votes

Because getting ganked is never the victim's fault. It's always the fault of someone else for not pinging, calling mia, following, or being Shen. Thus, the only logical conclusion is to not ward and flame teammates for being bad instead.

Big Bang Bob3 votes

If only these people knew they were basically getting item 2049 for some pocket change.

Cupkek2 votes

Because people LCS Zombies can't think for themselves, hence Zombie. They don't want to find a champion whose character and playstyle they like, they just copy whatever a streamer deems as "Broken" or "Freelo".

These Zombies often have the marker of their favorite team/streamer in their username (Example: TSM Fatbaby420) and spew out copied catch-phrases such as "Rekt", "The damages!", "The Jukes!" (While playing LB, btw), or "Madlife hooks!". Completely unable to use their own vocabulary for taunting the enemy.

Newsflash, you're going to play a hell of a lot better and enjoy yourself a lot more if you choose to play and learn a champion you actually want to, rather than copying someone else just because they had a good game as X or Y champion.

I look at these streamers and LCS hype and I ask myself. Why? Why should I care? Why would I copy someone else when I can make a name for myself?

Be original, don't be an LCS Zombie. Nobody likes LCS Zombies. Except other LCS Zombies.

/end rant

theragingnerd1 votes

{quoted}

Because people LCS Zombies can't think for themselves, hence Zombie. They don't want to find a champion whose character and playstyle they like, they just copy whatever a streamer deems as "Broken" or "Freelo".

These Zombies often have the marker of their favorite team/streamer in their username (Example: TSM Fatbaby420) and spew out copied catch-phrases such as "Rekt", "The damages!", "The Jukes!" (While playing LB, btw), or "Madlife hooks!". Completely unable to use their own vocabulary for taunting the enemy.

Newsflash, you're going to play a hell of a lot better and enjoy yourself a lot more if you choose to play and learn a champion you actually want to, rather than copying someone else just because they had a good game as X or Y champion.

I look at these streamers and LCS hype and I ask myself. Why? Why should I care? Why would I copy someone else when I can make a name for myself?

Be original, don't be an LCS Zombie. Nobody likes LCS Zombies. Except other LCS Zombies.

/end rant

but but i actually do enjoy ap kog mid :(

High51 votes

Why does the meta exist? Because in a majority of cases it works. Too many people think they're smarter than the median and it's not true.

Even with poor mechanics, not feeding, playing within the current meta and killing objectives in order will win a majority of games.

For example, Teemo jungle doesn't work.

rockdalian1 votes

{quoted}

Why does the meta exist? Because in a majority of cases it works. Too many people think they're smarter than the median and it's not true.

Even with poor mechanics, not feeding, playing within the current meta and killing objectives in order will win a majority of games.

For example, Teemo jungle doesn't work.

I seen it work and sated makes his poison stupid strong at least in a small test I did

PrincessOfHyrule1 votes

People just don't go through the champion roster to find champs to main that they actually like, I have played all 126 champions and found the ones i truly enjoy playing and main to be Morgana (obviously xD) Nidalee Ashe In my opinion its just the meta based thought process and the fact that if "Pros are playing it than i can", which is why when I'm playing solo queue i get sick of seeing certain things (ex. for the past two patch azir mid).

Veraska1 votes

Yasuo wards don't do damage.

Kit DoubleEdge1 votes

I mean, they are pros. I can understand why they would copy them, but they don't understand that their games are far different than the games we play. As for vision, I don't think people understand how useful vision is early on because they're too focused in lane and then they never realize that hey should upgrade their trinket because they hardly use it in the first place. Except for maybe a temporary glance at Dragon so you can steal or get the timer. Or they think they're being helpful warding baron for 60 seconds.

chipndip11 votes

I've been upgrading trinket for months. Unfortunately, Scrying Orbs and Sweeping Lenses are not the same as semi-spammable Vision Wards.

Arveanor1 votes

Actually sometimes it's pretty bad how long it takes pros to upgrade trinkets.

Finn Teh Human1 votes

Yep. Or I love when the support gets sightstone 30 minutes into the game.... and then proceeds to use it once... (IN GOLD)

KilljoyX1 votes

What if I told you the three things I learned from LCS are

  1. If you win a fight post 20 do baron.
  2. Buy sightstone or upgraded yellow trinket on 100% of non ADC champs
  3. Lane swap in 100% of games because you don't like the first 5 minutes of league.

The last one is the most important because it denies any possibility of the game being interesting.

But seriously having a high WPM (Wards per minute) directly increases your win rate.

JimmyNtheKudos1 votes

Couple of games back my jungler was asking me why I didn't take mid tower when my opponent showed up bot... Well because we have absolutely no vision, and their jungler is fed enough to 1v1 me <.< That apparently wasn't a valid point as he proceeded to flame me.

ZylotheWolfbane1 votes

I upgrade my trinket almost every game unless it devolves into an absolute stomp on one side or another, in which case there's not much time to get said trinket. But yeah, I upgrade my trinket constantly, and after every match I play I go check my match history out of curiosity to see how much I ward compared to others.

On average I ward more than the support on either team. Sometimes combined! Maybe I ward too much, but I'd rather ward too much than not enough.

SociopathFriend1 votes

Them: Support you suck- we have no vision of them- why don't you ward? Me: You see those 4 wards on the map? Them: Those aren't yours. Me: Yes they are, use your trinket. Ally champion proceeds to be ganked from brush on enemy they had no vision in. Shortly followed by a 4v5 and a loss/surrender. Them: Report the Support. Me: Check how many wards he placed in the stats.

50 minute game, placed 5 wards the entire game, never changed or upgraded trinket- it's like people forget about the 4 key after the 10 minute mark.

Yxgl222HaX1 votes

I almost always build the greater warding totem unless i'm support then sense im going sight i get the upgraded sweeper. On junglers i get it due to inability to keep buying wards lane UNLESS i'm playing a jungler like nunu or seju where i can build a sight stone viably and still go with an upgraded sweeper.

Troll for Trump1 votes

No dont upgrade the trinket really early unless: You are a jungler, you can get pink wards if you are ahead and too lazy to get sweeper, or double yellow wards because you are prone to counter jungling or want to counterjungle a lot.

The enemy has things which are invisible: eve, teemo, akali, talon etc.

But just buy one green ward and 2 purple wards or stuff like that; no need to upgrade.

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