Vayne Tumble - Why so low CD and Mana cost

Wenderwall·2/3/2016, 5:32:52 AM·4 votes·1,379 views

I was playing Jax jungler at level 14+. Vayne was opponent's adc. She was alone.

  1. I started E + Q jump on vayne. Did some damage.
  2. As soon as she was out of stun, she tumbled. - Wiki says she'll be invisible during the tumble.. i.e. nothing can target and obviously my 2nd casted E had no effect .
  3. She did 3-4 tumbles draining all my health. I can't Q or E her .

I later looked up to check how can she tumble so quickly. Apparently her CD is 2 sec. With some CDR .. she is invisible, untargetable. If she is lvl 14 (like me ) she can probably tumble 25 times.

I have played against vayne many times, without a hard CC she is tough to kill in late game. So my question is why is her ability has so low CD and low mana requirement? Considering she is an adc/marksman who does damage using AA not ability.

30 Comments

Sona Ping2/3/2016, 5:44:24 AM3 votes

Because she is a squishy Ranged AD type champion with extremely short range. Being able to reposition in combat is absolutely vital here, and because of her range, it's especially so.

TheLastShadow452/3/2016, 6:59:01 AM1 votes

Clearly you didn't have enough damage. If you stunned her you can just press W and one shot her if you had a item 3078

Wenderwall2/3/2016, 11:37:34 PM1 votes

Can anyone explain if AoE works on her when she is invisible. E.g. will item 3110 affect her?

ROBOTNINJADRAGON2/4/2016, 8:41:23 AM1 votes

Her Tumble cooldown isn't refreshed until she's used the Auto. So it's a short cooldown, waiting on a long lasting buff that doesn't remove until she shoots.

When she ults, she's going to want multiple Tumbles. Just wait for her to do 1 tumble, knowing she will blow the entire first invisibility proc, to auto attack and start another.

A Bad Mystic2/4/2016, 9:42:46 AM1 votes

Vayne is marked secondary as assassin in addition to marksmen for a good reason. She has the tools to 1v1 and win. if you're gonna fight her late game 1v1 your gonna need to be able to literally two shot her or your gonna fail. Sustained damage doesn't work against someone who can stealth for short periods of time to interrupt your damage.

Ruin Lance2/4/2016, 9:46:10 AM1 votes

wow seriously?! a squishy low-range marksman with only single target damage with a short range REPOSITION?! WTF!!! BROKEN!!