Why not just add a Tiamat Jungle item?

Nhifu·Aug 29, 2018·2 votes·1,567 views

It would be nice to see this change happen, since this is a pretty popularized build anyways.

I'm just saying, the warrior enchant is very lackluster unless you're

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Blown by JannaAug 29, 20185 votes

Because it would make jungle clears too good and too easy.

MrFawknSunshineAug 29, 20181 votes

item 1412 how is 60 ad and 10% cdr lackluster?

BârdAug 29, 20181 votes

Because dedicating an entire item slot to a glorified item 3133 is boring and nobody likes doing it.

The most interesting part of the item is the smite upgrade, which you don't even need to complete the item to get.

item 1402 gives a bit of burst item 1416 gives a strong on hit effect item 1401 gives AoE and shitloads of HP item 1400 has absolutely nothing unique about it

MrFawknSunshineAug 29, 20181 votes

item 3133 25 damage

warrior is 60 ad which isnt bad plus the 10% cdr duskblade had 55 ad and 10% cdr and it cost more

and i do believe all those junglers dont get tiamat for the damage they get it to clear camps faster.

matter of fact its common for trundle to get cinderhulk over warrior then go into ad.

and i do believe all those junglers listed in the OP for the most part scale with bonus ad so it enhances all their abilties

BârdAug 30, 20181 votes

Duskblade has 5 less AD, but it also has

Burst damage
Vision control
Lethality

Single target junglers get Tiamat to help clear, definitely, but most of them also get it because a Hydra item works really well with their kit.

MrFawknSunshineAug 30, 20181 votes

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Duskblade has 5 less AD, but it also has

Burst damage

Vision control

Lethality

Single target junglers get Tiamat to help clear, definitely, but most of them also get it because a Hydra item works really well with their kit.

you are correct that is why it cost more.

im not saying there dont need to be more items in general . but for 2625 gold warrior isnt all that horrible for the amount of ad and the cooldown it gives , just saying

QuickyfoxAug 30, 20181 votes

The 60 AD and 10% CDR that item 1400 gives right now are making the clears quite good unless you are doomed to deal dmg with auto-attacks only like Trundle Warwick . Hopefully these two benefit from completing it into item 3074 item 3748 . I agree with you that it would be nice to channel that 1200 gold into somethin more useful for the champions that don't really benefit from Cleave Passive later in the game, unless they become splitpushers but how many are these champions actually compared to all the others. So it turns out we are talking about a very narrow pool of champions that needs to go item 3077 almost everytime and suffer from completing it to item 3074 item 3748 . Those champions probably will be just those three from all Rengar MonkeyKing RekSai . Then I see no point of adding another Item with Cleave Passive, even if it was as little as old item 3124 version that had cleave effect when fully stacked. There is just no point adding an item to ease the life of 3 junglers while making the rest OP Shaco Khazix Rengar Camille Olaf and many many other AD autoattackers that have been fine all that time with an AoE ability.