Can we buff BRAUM?

Nhifu··17 votes·10,188 views

And naut And taric

Like their whole kits SUCK -minus their ults.

44 Comments

FOR JUSTICE8 votes

to be honest, its all cause of LC$ pro play.

when you have champions that have that much CC in their kits, the second they are meta its pick/ban in pro. but when they suck soloque suffers.

HP Crookshanks7 votes

after nerfing Lucian the ranged bruiser

King Braum5 votes

I dont quite see why Braum would need a buff apart from tank stats being quite bad but that's more of an issue with tanks in general.

Daddy Ants3 votes

While Lucian Braum is an auto win bot lane duo, No.

Gut the synergy between Lucian Braum then buff Braum.

Hügö12 votes

Just nerf Lucian?

Nhifu1 votes

Lucian's strong, but Lucian with any other sup that stuns would result the same if not - better than Braum.

hrooza dota 3 votes

all of those 3 are fine

they might not be Thresh tier

but at least they are not Rakan TahmKench tier in support role

mike222777

My dude rakan is amazing

Lestat S463 votes

No, because Riot cares more about LCS than regular players.

LTK KoRo1 votes

Well Braum is strong in pro play while decent but not overbearing in soloq, there's no reason to buff him outside of "OPs feelings"

OrangeMarine3 votes

lol

braum is picked in pro play

he would never be buffed. only possibly nerfed

boricCentaur12 votes

Braum needs changes he doesn't have any niche like champions like taric and leona he just does a bit of everything so buffing him is really bad for support diversity.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

How is being able to block skillshots for your entire team not a niche?

boricCentaur11 votes

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How is being able to block skillshots for your entire team not a niche?

Because it is not his niche that is something he can do look at champions like leona or zoe there kits have the majority of it based on doing something leona has 3 abilities that help her lock down one person and zoe also has 3 abilities that help her one shoting whereas braum has like 1 maybe two that help with that.

jocomotion2 votes

Braum

  • passive stun increased from 4 stacks to 5 (compensation nerf)
  • Using W on himself grants more Armor/MR
  • E no longer gives bonus movespeed but grants Tenacity
  • R now puts a stack of winters bite in every champion hit

I don’t know about Taric or Naut since I don’t play them as much.

Goal is to pull power from his passive and put more into his Ult, as well as better reward him from blocking hard CC abilities and more effective as a frontline if he’s willing to sacrifice jumping to his carry.

Sir Saltarin4 votes

Huh that's making him even worse on early game which is when he's bullied, the passive nerf is massive and you dont usually hit that many champs with R.

It would be a nerf.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

Lmao Tenacity. What a dead stat. Everything is a knockup now.

0 Hogapu2 votes

reduce Taric's mana cost a little and he should be fine mostly.

Moody P2 votes

braum is toxic AF why would we buff him?

MorgManBasher2 votes

Braum will not receive buffs because he's too strong in proplay. It is what it is, however Taric and Naut might be doable for buffs especially Naut who sucks in pretty much every role. Naut top? Sucks. Naut jungle? Sucks. Naut support? Okay-ish.

Also Braum's kit does NOT suck lol.

Ahri Body Pillow1 votes

Their kits definitely don't suck, it's more of a numbers issue.

Tahminatrix 1 votes

eggman?

Tobykachu1 votes

Braum's not even weak in regular play and broken in LCS. Why do you think he should be buffed?

Tahminatrix 1 votes

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Like their whole kits SUCK -minus their ults.

Its funny cause Sylas even makes better use of their ults because he builds full ap and their ults have ap scaling (except for taric but im pretty sure sylas can do more with that invincibility than taric can)

Sir Saltarin2 votes

Fuck Sylas, cant wait for him to be played on pro play so he is nerfed to the ground.

LordGeovanni1 votes

Careful you might get your post blocked for not being constructive.

Braums ult sucks (unless you have a yasou combo but that inst braum but yasuo) many adcs have a stronger slow than his ult his ult slow needs to persist after leaving it from any where between 0.75 seconds to 2.25 seconds

RebeccaUCuber1 votes

I think abilities are fine, But still they cant tank anything until 3-4 items, and cant just do what they are designed To do, abilities included.

VonCesaw1 votes

The problems with Braum are the problems with tanks in general - they had to make ways to deal with them and it strangled them out of the meta until they got some sort of damage buff like

Amumu - Now converts magic damage to true Sejuani - damage buff DrMundo - Does % Max health damage on Q, and does % of HIS max health damage on E Galio Gnar Maokai Mordekaiser Trundle Urgot - actively cannot build tank items, must build damage or will be phased out of the game

Paroe1 votes

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The problems with Braum are the problems with tanks in general - they had to make ways to deal with them and it strangled them out of the meta until they got some sort of damage buff like

Amumu - Now converts magic damage to true Sejuani - damage buff DrMundo - Does % Max health damage on Q, and does % of HIS max health damage on E Galio Gnar Maokai Mordekaiser Trundle Urgot - actively cannot build tank items, must build damage or will be phased out of the game

This is true. I think the way to fix braum though is to buff his Q specifically - the REST of his kit is fine and in a great place number wise.

ACTIVE: Braum propels ice from his shield in the target direction, dealing magic damage to all enemies hit and slowing the first enemy champion hit by 50% decaying over 2 seconds.

What this will do is give braum the damage he needs without simply giving him a flat damage buff, AND open him up to non-support options because he would - FINALLY - have waveclear.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

actively cannot build tank items, must build damage or will be phased out of the game

and only one of them is a tank so i don't see the problem. the one that's a tank also statistically still builds full tank unlike what you're claiming.

14daysuspensionk1 votes

Buff Pool Party Taric nipples.

BigFBear1 votes

If his kit sucks change is instead of buff it. I see Braum in most of my games. So idk if buffing is the right choice then.

limebuster1 votes

I think Braum is actually really underrated, I think his kit is extremely powerful even tho he’s not viewed that way currently

AggressiveCheeto1 votes

As someone who mains Braum and the support role over all there would be some changes that would bring him in line with other support champs. If you buffed his armor per lv would help him out alot because even if you do well in the game just needing to be a tank right now is a rather bad thing to do so a buff to his passive armor and mr per lv would help. For the people saying he might need a nerf because his passive, if you think on it when was the last time that he proc his own passive. It doesn't happen alot that he does it by himself but requires his carry to proc it for him. As for his shield the early game damage mid. is one of the worse in the game there are other champs that have some form of mitigation in there kit that far out does his even early threw late game. Over all what makes him a good support is his ability to commit only when his team follows up braum by himself doesn't fair as well as other champs could.

VonToothskie1 votes

Ive gotten 4 S scores with Braum recently. his kit is amazing and his passive is superb. he doesnt need a rework at all. the only problem is that he doesnt deal 3000 damage per second, and he doesnt nuke people at range or while invisible

League of Legends is broken, not Braum. if the outrageous damage gets dialed down so a tank can tank, hes perfect

Wild Geese1 votes

All defensive supports have to be neutered because the pro meta is so passive it makes them overwhelming with decent numbers.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

naut sure. honestly he just has to get a bigger shield again, that shit feels so good.

braum can go fuck himself tho. i like the champ as a character, but playing vs braum is such a fucking pain.

Hypochondria91 votes

Braum just isn't the best solo queue support because his damage is nil and his engage is weaker than other supports.

His peel and counter-engage are both strong as fuck. He would be a good with a duo partner because you rely on your team when you play Braum.

Braum's E is one of the best non-ult abilities in the game.

Paroe1 votes

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Braum just isn't the best solo queue support because his damage is nil and his engage is weaker than other supports.

His peel and counter-engage are both strong as fuck. He would be a good with a duo partner because you rely on your team when you play Braum.

Braum's E is one of the best non-ult abilities in the game.

Braums E is what a tank SHOULD be, honestly. It feesl very rewarding when you use your E properly as braum. i wouldnt call it the best, Yasuos wind wall is the best wall-based ability in the game.

Hypochondria91 votes

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Braums E is what a tank SHOULD be, honestly. It feesl very rewarding when you use your E properly as braum. i wouldnt call it the best, Yasuos wind wall is the best wall-based ability in the game.

You can move with Braum wall though, you take damage after first hit but it's reduced and you even get bonus MS.

Paroe1 votes

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You can move with Braum wall though, you take damage after first hit but it's reduced and you even get bonus MS.

Yes but the area it covers is smaller and doesnt last as long, nor does it simply eat ALL projectiles.

Lord Halflynx1 votes

I think higher a higher base health, some more attack speed, and maybe a 5-10% increase on his slows would make him feel better to play. Maybe changing his w to give a nearby ally resistances and allow him to jump to opponents.

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