A few ideas for future champions,

CaptainAntiHeroz·Jan 24, 2018·2 votes·433 views

A watcher A yordle assassin A vampire A sustaining adc A Darkin support and mage

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zrWQMdGHtYJan 24, 20182 votes

Draven with 1 lifesteal item heals for over 100 per hit, so I think that's pretty sustaining adc already... And Fizz is kind of yordle, assassin >.> And we do have Vlad.

CaptainAntiHerozJan 24, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=EYEn839t,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-24T14:12:12.682+0000)

Draven with 1 lifesteal item heals for over 100 per hit, so I think that's pretty sustaining adc already... And Fizz is kind of yordle, assassin >.> And we do have Vlad.

Draven doesn't have sustain built into his passive Fizz is a fish And for the love of all that's good Vlad is just a blood mage, not a vampire, hes kinky not a neck grabbing, hard to kill, blood sucker (hard to kill sure but that's just because he's tanky and heals not because he's made to be a bruiser) I'd imagine more of a ww Darius and Vladimir hybrid but as an assassin. So sticking power, bleed, and sustain with mobility. Not being a tank, just the bleed and sustain.

zrWQMdGHtYJan 24, 20181 votes

Let me explain to you what's a vampire.

A vampire is a creature or a person who consumes blood no matter how. You don't need sharp teeth and to glow in sunlight to be a vampire. You dont need to burn to the sun you dont need to turn into a blood. Vladimir is consuming blood to sustain himself, which makes him a vampire. A leech is a vampire, there's a type of bats that drinks cow blood which are also vampires. The little F***ers in the grass at spring are vampires too. If I stab you and drink your blood I'm a vampire too. Vampire is the blood consumed, not the "fantasy" creatures.

Fizz is pretty much a yordle as he is part of the YORDLE ONLY Omega squad, he's just a fishy type of yordle, if you didnt notice all the yordles are different types. Teemo is a rat, Kennen a squirrel, Veigar is a big black ball of poo. Lulu is a fairy type and so on...

Draven's Q combined with even 1% Lifesteal (which is a rune that goes up to 15% total), is pretty much what a sustain ADC is. 2 crits = full HP, that's the best you get, more from that you get Sivir with her huge attack speed with the E activated, or Tristana. IF you build an ADC with an actual LIFE STEAL passive with the current runes and items, then we can just leave the game cause that thing will heal for over 2000 per hit...

CaptainAntiHerozJan 24, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=EYEn839t,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-24T14:26:24.438+0000)

Let me explain to you what's a vampire.

A vampire is a creature or a person who consumes blood no matter how. You don't need sharp teeth and to glow in sunlight to be a vampire. You dont need to burn to the sun you dont need to turn into a blood. Vladimir is consuming blood to sustain himself, which makes him a vampire. A leech is a vampire, there's a type of bats that drinks cow blood which are also vampires. The little F***ers in the grass at spring are vampires too. If I stab you and drink your blood I'm a vampire too. Vampire is the blood consumed, not the "fantasy" creatures.

Fizz is pretty much a yordle as he is part of the YORDLE ONLY Omega squad, he's just a fishy type of yordle, if you didnt notice all the yordles are different types. Teemo is a rat, Kennen a squirrel, Veigar is a big black ball of poo. Lulu is a fairy type and so on...

Draven's Q combined with even 1% Lifesteal (which is a rune that goes up to 15% total), is pretty much what a sustain ADC is. 2 crits = full HP, that's the best you get, more from that you get Sivir with her huge attack speed with the E activated, or Tristana. IF you build an ADC with an actual LIFE STEAL passive with the current runes and items, then we can just leave the game cause that thing will heal for over 2000 per hit...

Firstly Twitch is on Omega squad and he's not a Yordle Secondly Vlad manipulates blood using magic no one says he drinks it. "My cup is half empty" is more likely than not, a joke he is by definition a Hemomancer who uses hemomancy to drain enemies of their life force and revitalize his own. Thirdly I mean a literal sustain adc. Not lifesteal items or runes, but an adc that has something in their kit that makes them survive laning phase without having to rush lifesteal. Something like tryndamere q or nasus passive (toned down or with a multi hit mechanic obviously)

zrWQMdGHtYJan 24, 20181 votes

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hemomancy to drain enemies of their life force and revitalize his own.

Vampire.

And Twitch is pretty much an overgrown mutant Yordle...

And ok... lets put it like this. What's the point of giving a self heal ability which is mostly a skill for bruisers and tank, to an ADC, who has a huge benefit from runes/life steal item, the first place?

CaptainAntiHerozJan 24, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=EYEn839t,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-24T14:40:49.596+0000)

hemomancy to drain enemies of their life force and revitalize his own.

Vampire.

And Twitch is pretty much an overgrown mutant Yordle...

And ok... lets put it like this. What's the point of giving a self heal ability which is mostly a skill for bruisers and tank, to an ADC, who has a huge benefit from runes/life steal item, the first place?

No, Vlad has never as you say "drank the blood" it's more of a vastayan thing, like Ahri stealing the dreams away from being someone. That's like saying malphite is an earth bender because he can throw rocks. Plus a vampire can master blood magic and be a vampire, but there is nothing saying a blood cultist is a vampire. He's just very very fond of making blood jokes.

No, he's a giant Rat not a fey creature.

And because too many supports don't know how to do their job

zrWQMdGHtYJan 24, 20181 votes

Vlad literally takes the blood from his foes towards his own body. Even his skills are shown to do that. Aka Vampire.
Twitch's original size should be as big as a yordle.

3)There's even more supports that do a brilliant job.

CaptainAntiHerozJan 24, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=EYEn839t,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-24T14:55:48.668+0000)

Vlad literally takes the blood from his foes towards his own body. Even his skills are shown to do that. Aka Vampire.

Twitch's original size should be as big as a yordle.

3)There's even more supports that do a brilliant job.

For the support first, of course there are, but and ADC main shouldn't have to pray that their support will heal or peel for them every game, it should just happen but often enough it doesn't. So unless you have a better suggestion for a new adc idea that part is done.

2 good Fizz is still a fish, he has nothing in common with the other Yordles we know about aside from size, and size (referring to twitch) does not make you a yordle so there goes that Omega squad argument

Lastly taking it to you and using it as a projectile weapon is not something vampires do with blood, if he were to consume it then his e and auto attacks would be different. But because he doesn't drink it merely deprives it of life force (think Zed and why Rakan and Xayah hate him) he is able to use it as a weapon

zrWQMdGHtYJan 24, 20181 votes

Look mate, if it was a weapon he wouldnt heal. He heals. That's a vampire. End of story. Fizz is seen as a yordle for years and suddenly you dont agree... Okay. Teemo is a pure assassin. Done. And Twitch is Twitch, end of story.

If the ADC main is really an ADC main he wouldnt even need the support the first place. End of the second story.

CaptainAntiHerozJan 24, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=EYEn839t,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-24T15:25:52.725+0000)

Look mate, if it was a weapon he wouldnt heal. He heals. That's a vampire. End of story. Fizz is seen as a yordle for years and suddenly you dont agree... Okay. Teemo is a pure assassin. Done. And Twitch is Twitch, end of story.

If the ADC main is really an ADC main he wouldnt even need the support the first place. End of the second story.

That seems to be a very frustrated response to realizing that by your own definition Vladimir isn't a vampire. If you don't know how magic drains life force go read what seeds arts did to the vastayan woods. Its very different.

And regardless of if fizz is or is not a Yordle, and no Teemo is not an assassin he's a shot with shroom bombs.

Glad you realize Rat and Yordle is not the same thing. And if the adc part were true there would be no 5v5 it'd be a 4v4......

zrWQMdGHtYJan 24, 20181 votes

Why am I actually wasting time in this pointless argument?

Kingontop69Jan 24, 20181 votes

loving the darkin mage idea would work amazing as varus's sister

Chembaron YamadaJan 24, 20181 votes

Kitty Katarina is actually right about Fizz being an assassin Yordle. Read his lore in the client, they updated his lore and he is an aquatic Yordle now. It's just that Riot didn't update all other lore sources yet, but he is officially a Yordle now.

Kitty is wrong about Vladimir and Twitch, though. Twitch is in no way related to Yordles, he is a chemical waste induced mutated rat. Vladimir, like you said, is a hemomancer using blood magic given by Darkin, not a vampire.

A young anime girl vampire with a scythe is actually something that one designer at Riot wanted to create for a long time now (don't know who anymore).

We could definitely use another female Yordle, there are just 3 compared to the masses of male Yordles.

My only complain.... your suggestions are based alot on Runeterras magical world, we got alot of magic last year already. I hope we see other types of champs next. More from Zaun and Piltover, maybe a bandit from Bilgewater and so on.

My personal biggest desires are: A maid from Piltover Vault tank from Piltover Herbal alchemist from Zaun Hacker from Piltover Medic from Piltover (yeah, all my ideas are about Zaun and Piltover :P)

zrWQMdGHtYJan 25, 20181 votes

Vampire 1: One whom drinks the blood of others, be it animal or human. Not to be confused with cannibalism or sarcophagy as no tissue is consumed.

Urban dictionary.

Vladimir consumes the blood of people he hits with the magic = Not folklore vampire, but still a vampire.

Vladimir Q = transfusion = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_transfusion

Vladimir IS a vampire.

Chembaron YamadaJan 25, 20182 votes

Vladimir is heavily inspired by the vampire trope, but he isn't one. Just like Warwick is heavily inspired by the werewolf trope, yet he actually is not a werewolf.

That's simply how it is, sorry. Vladimir is a human using blood magic, which Noxus took from the Darkin. The correct term til this point for him is hemomancer. Rioters said a few times already that Vladimir is not actually drinking blood in lore.

zrWQMdGHtYJan 25, 20181 votes

Excuse me. Am I a retard? I clearly stated that Vladimir is not a folklore vampire. Vladimir is a traditional real life vampire. Any creature or human who consumes blood in one way or another is a vampire. You dont need to die to sunlight, sparkle, take a stake in the heart, hate garlic or a cross.

A leech is a vampire, a bat that eats cow blood is vampire. IF you suck your own blood you're a vampire.

Vladimir consumes blood, by using transfusion which makes him a vampire. Repeating, not a folklore vampire, but a real life vampire. IF I have to repeat it one more time I might do self harm which will be fully on your fault as you clearly refuse to finally read and understand what i'm trying to explain from 5 hours.

Again repeating slowly.

Transfusion = Consuming blood = None-folklore vampire = Vladimir

Do we understand it now? DO I need to repeat one more time and later be called names and get downvoted for it? Or someone to claim how I disrespect people cause they simply refuse to read and understand the first time?!

Chembaron YamadaJan 25, 20182 votes

A person getting a blood transfusion is not a vampire in any sense of the word.

You wrote the definition of vampire yourself, someone who drinks blood. Vladimir does not drink blood, Riot themselves stated that. And I highly doubt that you go that far to claim that someone getting a blood transfusion in a hospital is a vampire.

Anyway, this is just another example why people keep telling you that it is impossible to have any constructive discussion with you.

I will simply stop the conversation at this point.

CaptainAntiHerozJan 25, 20181 votes

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A person getting a blood transfusion is not a vampire in any sense of the word.

You wrote the definition of vampire yourself, someone who drinks blood. Vladimir does not drink blood, Riot themselves stated that. And I highly doubt that you go that far to claim that someone getting a blood transfusion in a hospital is a vampire.

Anyway, this is just another example why people keep telling you that it is impossible to have any constructive discussion with you.

I will simply stop the conversation at this point.

Lol maybe I'll just say "I SUGGEST A TRUE SUPPRESSION USING FANG HAVING ALUCARD LEVEL VAMPIRE" and remove any and all confusion or discussion on Vlad "blood mage or otherwise keep all opinions as opinions" and just stick to A TRUE BRAWLER VAMPIRE FROM Piltover that maybe got tortured by singed after venturing to Zaun and dumped after being thought dead only to rise with insatiable hunger only to be lost in the bowels of Piltover and preying on anything and everything they can get their fangs into

CaptainAntiHerozJan 25, 20181 votes

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Kitty Katarina is actually right about Fizz being an assassin Yordle. Read his lore in the client, they updated his lore and he is an aquatic Yordle now. It's just that Riot didn't update all other lore sources yet, but he is officially a Yordle now.

Kitty is wrong about Vladimir and Twitch, though. Twitch is in no way related to Yordles, he is a chemical waste induced mutated rat. Vladimir, like you said, is a hemomancer using blood magic given by Darkin, not a vampire.

A young anime girl vampire with a scythe is actually something that one designer at Riot wanted to create for a long time now (don't know who anymore).

We could definitely use another female Yordle, there are just 3 compared to the masses of male Yordles.

My only complain.... your suggestions are based alot on Runeterras magical world, we got alot of magic last year already. I hope we see other types of champs next. More from Zaun and Piltover, maybe a bandit from Bilgewater and so on.

My personal biggest desires are: A maid from Piltover Vault tank from Piltover Herbal alchemist from Zaun Hacker from Piltover Medic from Piltover (yeah, all my ideas are about Zaun and Piltover :P)

When did Rito create fish Yordles and why is fizz the only one.....

Cuz a long time ago fizz was not a yordle

Low-key though medic alchemist and hackers all sound cool