Can Riot make a champion that fits any role/lane?

Meeks011··6 votes·2,729 views

It would be really cool if there was a champion that could decently ADC, support, mid, jg, and top. I don't know how it could be done, but there's always a way. There are champions who can play 4 of the 5 roles, but ADC is where they fail.

Edit: And they gotta be able to be bruiser or tank as well.

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Junsui Aoi14 votes

Their name is Kayle. She just does APC for the ADC role.

ChaoticPinecone3 votes

"There name is Kayle and Nidalee"

And Kayle can actually build regular ADC and be decent, especially with that ult.

LankPants2 votes

Jayce is fairly up there on the 'does everything scale' too.

Laughing Fish11 votes

Draven can carry from any (and every) role. Draven top holds the lane in glorious fashion. Draven mid is always the center of attention. Draven Jungle goes where his fans want him. Draven Support always makes sure Draven ADC goes full Draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaven. https://38.media.tumblr.com/ae402ec521e19176026a3334f63ddaf8/tumblr_n9692geiYG1r013jro1_400.gif

sneezing slug4 votes

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Draven can carry from any (and every) role. Draven top holds the lane in glorious fashion. Draven mid is always the center of attention. Draven Jungle goes where his fans want him. Draven Support always makes sure Draven ADC goes full Draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaven. https://38.media.tumblr.com/ae402ec521e19176026a3334f63ddaf8/tumblr_n9692geiYG1r013jro1_400.gif

Goddammit

Jeddy0171 votes

One for All Mirror Mode Draven Edition.

Meeks0111 votes

Brb, gotta try Draven in every role.

Tim is fire6 votes

Jayce? Nidalee? Draven? Draven

Meeks0114 votes

You forgot Draven.

Zarxis4 votes

Gangplank

Meeks0112 votes

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Kouga1 votes

Not really. I mean, he's not the best thing ever but he's actually pretty fun. If he takes Runic Shield he can proc the execute with his Q at range because it is considered a melee Auto Attack. This lets him farm/heal his AD at a pretty good range because he can Q from range and then the "heal" range starts at his location. So you can sort of chain it to get some long distance.

Plus he gets even more gold from farming thanks to his Q.

He gives an AoE Buff for trading.

He heals/cleanses himself for easy escapes.

And his ult provides global pressure.

Zarxis1 votes

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Gangplank support eh? Sounds kind of shit.

With the Bandit mastery and a item 3303, you can make almost as much money as your ADC, and use that money to play as any role you'd like.

Want to dedicate yourself to supporting? item 3050 item 3092 item 3190 Want to be an unkillable tank? item 3083 item 3512 item 3800 item 3025 item 3110 item 3065 Want to be a mage pirate with ridiculous sustain? item 3174 item 3089 item 3285 item 3157 item 3135 item 3100 Want to destroy anything that gets in range of your Q? item 3031 item 3087 item 3072 item 3046 item 3508 item 3078 Want to be Phreak? item 3078 item 3078 item 3078 item 3078 item 3078 item 3078

Anything works on Gangplank if you believe.

aaronconlin1 votes

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Gangplank support eh? Sounds kind of shit.

U wot

Reaper Review3 votes

Urgot

Urgot ADC/Mid/Top are obvious. Support Urgot contributes poke, a slow, armor shred, and damage reduction. Not the worst support. Jungle Urgot is actually doable, but probably takes some Urgot expertise.

Meeks0111 votes

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Indorfin4 votes

or stealth or mobility and ranged instead of melee and with a suppress/displacement. So nothing like Evelynn.

Unless the point was that he would have shitty clear, but I would've just started with that.

Rinky Dinky1 votes

Was insinuating eve was bad.

I wasn't aware this was 4 patches ago

Rinky Dinky1 votes

still thinks eve is bad

ShadowAngel2192 votes

Isn't that Teemo Teemo ? At home at top, a strong mid laner. My friend and I always do support Teemo cause blind the ADC and win trades, adc teemo cause I did that and it worked amazingly and I even did jungle teemo, with my blind causing the monsters to miss and you can shroom your buff so that you always have them warded.

Schenix2 votes

Teemo How do you even forget me? Do you need a reminder?

TwistedFate Although I can forgive you for forgetting me.

Mister Modesty1 votes

TwistedFate Support would be hard to work with.

Schenix2 votes

I mean, he Blue Cards anything for infinite mana and Gold Cards for the point and click stun. Red Card to zone an enemy out of reach or surprise them by not even coming near them as your jungler comes out of nowhere and they can't run because they couldn't anticipate it (you would expect Gold Card for a gank -- mind games). His problem is that he's very squishy, but that doesn't set him as a terrible support, he's actually quite decent. I would however say it is his weakest role and the utility provided by other supports outweigh his. To even consider him as support means you need to have a tank or 2 on your team.

Mister Modesty1 votes

Squishy. That's why 'm concerned. A grab from Blitzcrank Nautilus orThresh could leave the ADC without a support. When I play Thresh, I always grab the squishy support. The ADC won't farm 1V2.

Schenix1 votes

Doesn't stop Brand, Zyra, Janna, Sona, Soraka, Nami, Koz and Annie.

Grabs are powerful, it's part of the design and can always have a high chance for a kill. Twisted Fate does high damage, he has the high possibility to get off a W-Q after a grab and can allow the ADC to net a kill as a one for one or even a 1 for 2 if it was a Red Card on weakened foes. Grabs aren't enough to say don't pick a squishy support. (But like, never pick squishies into Draven. Not about that life.)

Meeks0111 votes

TwistedFate Who's this?

Teemo FUCK, I need to pray now. I need to protect myself from Satan.

Spooky Spooker1 votes

teemo is more AP so playing ADC doesnt seem good.

Schenix1 votes

Teemo item 3085 item 3091 item 3172 item 3115 item 3151 item 3153

Or something along those lines.

Any champion not meant for a role will obviously be sub-par at it when matched against high end teams with sensible team compositions. Teemo however, actually does a decent job in any role, including ADC. I don't know how you haven't seen it yet.

Just a note though, Wits End is like the way to go to win lane against Rumble as Teeto.

Trylobyte2 votes

As others have said, this is Kayle's thing. She fits any role and builds whatever she wants and it's all good.

TheUltimateSpear1 votes

Kayle can, but she's not very popular now...

That depends, though. By viable, do you mean strong in any position, or workable in any position?

Laughing Fish3 votes

Exactly. There has to be a downside to being able to play any role, or else that champ would be have a 100% ban/pick rate. Kayle is built to be good at any role, but great at none. Although I think she could use some slight buffs (especially to her heal's mana cost).

7ha7guy7771 votes

Malzahar

Meeks0111 votes

I was about to say coughs "ADC", but remembered a very special way to build Malzahar...

Junsui Aoi1 votes

We all learned that special way during URF. XD

Bonobo Patrol1 votes

Quinn

LittleBlast1 votes

Nidalee

Chaotic Reks1 votes

Shen a certain spooky ninja would like a word with you...

Devack The Holy1 votes

Her name was Irelia.

Riot feared her potential so much, they nerfed her even before release.

Rinky Dinky1 votes

Gangplank

BakedLotion1 votes

Nidalee

DrCyanide1 votes

Wasn't that Riot's design philosophy with Thresh ?

Rico Nasty1 votes

Teemo Kayle Karma (except for ADC) Quinn Gragas Urgot Draven

B1naryB0t1 votes

Teemo Thresh Kayle Gangplank Urgot Lulu

Meeks0111 votes

Lulu

Phreak plays Lulu as a jungler, right?

simzie1 votes

Nidalee

Zhou Ziyu1 votes

No one has mentioned: Fiddlesticks

Hope you haven't forgotten the Crittlesticks.

Meeks0111 votes

Fuck yeah, Kshaway is the shit.

Though I tried it in ranked and just fed a bit.

Cis7v01 votes

Quinn could if she wasn't so bugged and unreliable. support could be a bit ify but i think it would work out.

Meeks0111 votes

Jungle Quinn? Tank Quinn?

ModThe Djinn1 votes

A tank/bruiser who can also be a Marksman is going to be problematic: I don't think a Marksman should be allowed to have the inherent durability + crowd control that a tank requires.

The main issue with building something like this is that the only thing we have to rely on is itemization, and that has to be able to make the entire difference. I suppose you could fake a Marksman with a passive like "gain bonus Attack Speed based on your Attack Damage" and get their damage to marksman levels that way, but you'd have to similarly scale their CC with their total resists or their total health to avoid having a Marksman with too much crowd control.

I think it COULD be done, but the resulting champion would be very complicated, and, as such, I'd question if it's worth the effort.

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