I drew Katarina! [Fanart]

Terozu··10 votes·1,300 views

http://imgur.com/wBPrlhI I drew this portrait of Katarina, feedback please!(I don't have any art site accounts lol)

41 Comments

Arakadia2 votes

Really cool! I suggest you make the shading on the left cheek (or her right cheek) get progressively darker. Just gently so. The nose shouldn't bend so soon, it should go higher up before bending so that it meets with the eye brow area. Also, you should try to smooth out the shading. Whether that means blending it with your finger or filling it in more heavily, you decide. Finally, I suggest next time you try to fill the cheeks more, here they're a little empty and flat.

Its better to just fill in the shading, BUT sometimes it looks better and/or is easier to smear/blend it with your finger.

Terozu2 votes

I tried to make it progressively darker, evidently, it didn't pan out :b, the nose and eyebrow are actually drawn on the same curve, I darkened the area a bit to imply more depth, but it doesn't seemed to have scanned well now that I look at it some more. I always use my finger to blend, with the exception of on hair as I want it to look sort of like strands. I'm not sure how to "fill in the cheeks", could you give me some pointers there? Much appreciated.

Arakadia2 votes

Ugh. The ever present evils that scanners can be.

The face definetly looks smooth enough, although her collar/vest thing could use some smoothing out imho. Yeah, smart thinking, you don't want to smear/blend on things like hair. Unless its like anime or something, if you want to to be realistic/semi-realistic you should aim for strands like you have.

Filling the cheeks is something I struggle with too. From my understanding, it has more to do with the face shape, like if the face is longer than average. Katarina's hair hanging over her eye is one good way to help make her cheeks not look so wide and empty. Don't worry if you can't get the other cheek to look less empty, most people won't notice it or pay too much attention to it. To fix the empty cheek problem, you could try and play around with jaw line or hair. Idk if Katarina has freckles. Maybe even just put a shadow over her cheek, from some unseen object. If none of those work, you can just do your best and work on it next drawing. It can be sort of difficult to fix once your drawing is as developed as yours, but its not impossible.

If you've got any other questions, do not hesitate to ask :3

Terozu2 votes

Looking at it some more, her cheeks should be shorter I think, I made them longer to compensate for the fact that in Merc Kat's splash art, she's looking down, but I think I overcompensated, if I hadn't they'ed be shorter, and they wouldn't need to be "filled in". Thanks for the tips, it's a big help!

mærk1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

To critique this I'd say it's a great drawing. If you want improvement try to use symmetry, more tones of shades, the hair is great; you can add natural lines by just quickly and lightly stroking a curvy lines.

I can't say much at all as I suck at drawing! :D So it's a really nice drawing!

Terozu1 votes

Thanks, and yeah I'm not super good at shading, I need to work on that.(That is how I draw my hair :b) -EDIT- *added not, somehow missed typing that the first time, I'm NOT super good at shading XD

mærk1 votes

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Thanks, and yeah I'm not super good at shading, I need to work on that.(That is how I draw my hair :b) -EDIT- *added not, somehow missed typing that the first time, I'm NOT super good at shading XD

You got the concept of shading spot on! So you're heading the right direction. You are using graphite so shading can be a bit tricky but is doable. Sharpen your pencil tons!

Pathfinder Yasuo1 votes

To give my professional critique of this:

  • Good overall,
  • Her face is very feminine, her jaw could be a tiny bit less sharp
  • Her hair is longer
  • Her eyes are a tiny bit too far apart
  • More definition above the bridge of the nose and around the eye sockets to give more depth
  • Her hair splits off less centered, above the scar is where her hair splits into 2 sides (left/right)

Very nice drawing, though. I really suck at the shading around jaws, you did it very well.

Terozu1 votes

My response:

Thank you, and thanks for reviewing, Yeah I was trying to make it look look feminine, I was going for an almost demure face, to show that she is technically a princess in addition to being an assassin, I know her hair is longer, I don't actually know why i toned it down but I did. You're right about the eyes, thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't noticed. I'm new to depth in general, but I agree something should be done there. Yeah, I thought I got it better on the hair part, but looking at the image again, and at Mercenary Kat (the skin I based it off of) I really should have moved it over more to the right.

TL;DR Thanks for the critique, you made some valid points, even if some mistakes were intentional(albeit reasonless).

Pathfinder Yasuo1 votes

What I meant to say about it was, her face should be more feminine, which would include reducing the angle of the jaw. Men have more square jaws than women.

Terozu1 votes

Yes I know, as previously mention in other responses, I over compensated on her facial length, which left her Jaw short, and overly square, It was a mistake on my part, thanks for pointing it out though, I at least know what I need to work on :b

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Eyes are not as wide, the shape is a bit different, the nose is smaller, the mouth is bigger and the face overall is shorter. Her jaw is smaller and it doesn't have such ugly edges. Her hair way more volume than this and it goes down the other side and its times longer. The eyebrowns are different shape with a bit more volume, her neck is skinnier and he shoulders a bit higher.

Sorry. I literally live Katarina, so I give exact criticism. I wont speak, about the scar as you might of wanted to draw, pre scar Katarina.

P.S I cant draw myself, but I tend to see defects in other stuff.

Terozu1 votes

The eyes are a result of my animesque art style leaking into the drawing, so while it's inaccurate I like it, in addition, her eys in Mercenary Katarina(the one I based her facial structure off o) are much larger than normal for her, here's the image if you wanna look at it: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W0zouCtFFtY/maxresdefault.jpg , the mouth is actually too big in comparison on my drawing, her Jaw is bigger, I overcompensated for her head looking down, her hair has always been backwards on the merc Kat skin, which is what I used for my reference, different shape in eye brows is just expression, though I admit they could be thicker, I actually made her neck thinner, and it's much thinner than a normal person's as I hate thicker necks(they bug me), I also actually raised her shoulders up as well, also she has the scar, i'm just bad at drawing scars, look closer.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

First. Go buy glasses. Second none of your argument made any sense, because if they did. Your art would look like AT LEAST the Merc skin and they don't look anything in common.

Basically I just told you how and what to fix, you came at me claiming that it's untrue. Well have fun, not managing to draw Kata properly while people give you false compliments out of some not understandable "goodness" as they call it.

Have fun. Enjoy. For the record. Even if I kind of failed my attempt to remake her face in skyrim, because of the limitation I had with both my PC and the tools I could use, I manage to make her way more than you did here...

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/481146537284789770/3049AD80F52E7FB3239933FFCFDC69B368D53BBD/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/495780761312575396/0351B6976372D210ED580EFED3E8EEAB7404373F/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/610602736047369244/D617A6901E3F6CFD3425C64C1EFDF029ECD36982/

Edit:

I haven't drawn from years and I was never that good, but even I can make her eye correct while you're attacking me how yours is correct and how I just lied with all the stuff I told you to tweak to get a proper result.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64702586/IMG_20160822_155328.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64702586/IMG_20160823_134605.jpg

Terozu1 votes

What's your problem, I didn't attack you, and I don't know how you took me saying that my art style is the reason her eyes look different. I didn't make any arguments, I simply stated the reasons for changes to her appearance, whether by my own mistake, or just an expression change. And I can draw her eyes like that too, but that isn't my art style, again what's your problem? There was no reason for you to react like this, at all.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

It's called counter reaction... But glad u excuse it by saying different art style instead of just accepting a critique.

Terozu1 votes

I accepted your critique, and gave a response to it, the same way I did with everyone on this page, you freaked out, and began berating me because it didn't fit your view of her, you're in the wrong.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

My view... Guess I'm the only person who sees Kat as Kat and not, in totally different weird ways as most people seem to be...

Terozu1 votes

How DO you see her? I see her as a bad ass princess, who sometimes wonders if everything she's given up was worth it, and is trying to live her life to the best she can, she's Katarina.

Brain Errör 4042 votes

Ignore kitty katarina... she/he gets their panties in a bunch with anything to deal with Katarina.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Stalker much?

Terozu1 votes

Well no, tbh I've seen u get upset over katarina too, it's your defining trait...

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

At least i show that I care. >. >

Brain Errör 4041 votes

I've never taken a personal interest in any one enough to "stalk" them.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Then why speak of my habits?

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Read either my valentine special or the 25 released chapters of noxian tale and you'll see how I see her...

midnight oil241 votes

Listen, Kat, you're my friend, which is why I'm saying this: You can't just force your view of Katarina onto other people. See her however you want. I'm not gonna stop you. It's your right. But whenever you put other people down for having their own opinions of Kat, it reflects poorly on you.

Sorry. I hope you can forgive me.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I don't force. It's just who she is. Not my fault that she isn't a fish, is it?

midnight oil241 votes

You said just up above that if they read your story they'll see her the way you see her. You always talk about you know who she is.

I'm about to tell you something very interesting: Katarina is a "fictional character". She is open to interpretation, and no one view of her is correct unless it is confirmed by riot.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Mine was confirmed enough times, by people who actually have the inside stuff. So guess I'm the one in the wrong yet again. Let me tell you, a secret. A fictional char is open to interpretations only if she has no given personality or backstory. Or a specific appearance. I claimed that the appearance of what s/he drew has nothing in common to Katarina, who has APPERANCe, GIVEN, IN PUBLIC, BY RIOT GAMES.

Glad that so many experts exist and come here to judge me and tell me what's what. I do enjoy been make look like a fool, just for the lulz.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Well... You do mix up canon lore with lore from your fic quite often...

It's perfectly fine, but remember that everyone hasn't read your fic so they ofte have no context of your claims and think you're just making up stuff.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

When we skip the part with you finally saying something nice.

I still fail to see what does personality views have to do with her bloody appearance, showed 1000000 times in retail art and cinematics. I originally said the drawing has nothing in common and what needs to be fixed to be close. Then suddenly everyone is wild on me "how you see her, how you see her"... I see her with my eyes and my mind... How dahell do u see her? With your idk? other parts which aren't on the head...

And yeah know that only 5 people read it from which 2 aren't giving opinion because "we don't want to make the other writers feel less stimulated"... Oh excuse me... 6! Mid started reading it after I had to indirectly beg... Oh sorry, a guy I met in OW told me he's at 17th chapter. waw 7 readers! If my new sloth friend from the support team is reading it too! 8 in 7 months when he's done! ^^

sigh some times I wonder why I even give the effort... spending so much time remembering and reconstructing and trying to not mix dates and stuff...

I think I'll be off until Sunday, this is working me up way too much than it should...

Terozu2 votes

Her appearance is different because It's in my art style, not LoL's art style, I mean, look at this, these are all her appearance from Riot Games: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0196hHCix24/VN0Nm-AeSnI/AAAAAAAAj3M/628tyQLeFDk/s1600/katarina_Splash_0.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CVmVvmJSjkQ/maxresdefault.jpg http://lolwp.com/wp-content/uploads/katarina_Splash_0.jpg http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/050/1/1/katarina_wallpaper_by_xxxranmasamaxxx-d77751k.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LTZfqYk.jpg In some of these, she looks Asian, sometimes Caucasian, she has different skin tones, different facial structures, it goes on and on, also, your view of her has nothing to do with her appearance, I thought we moved past that and don't know why he brought that up, that is open to interpretation, and the reason I said that in the first place is that you got mad that my drawing was off, when everything you pointed out, with the exception of eyebrow thickness, and hair volume, was either the exact opposite of what was wrong in comparison to my reference, or because my art style doesn't end up looking the same as theirs, and you got mad because of that. i.e. You said her eye's should be sharper, and her eye brows should fly out, that's the expression she has in a few of her skins, but that's just an expression, I was going for a demure and feminine look, to show her more princessy side. You then told me that was wrong, because that's not what Kat's like, which is what I meant by not everyone has your view of her.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

She looks Asian on the cartoonist Chinese art XD you compare cartoon, realism and 3D art? Well... Roll. And her eyes look different on the skins because of one magical creation called make up XD quit trying to argue with me. Like seriously you claim that it's different shape because of makeup. How can I take you seriously now :D

midnight oil241 votes

Buddy, you got good artwork. I think that if you feel your art is good, then it's good. You shouldn't let Kat act like this. (I get that that's what you've been doing)

I'd suggest you say that it's your own style, but that hasn't worked, so I'm not sure what to do. Maybe just don't reply? Hope this gets sorted out for you.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

meanwhile you replied to me... Yeah! don't let me to go wild that, find me and beat me up to teach me some manners as I'm a wild animal and my opinion doesn't count. I just get aggression and hate and been called a liar as answers anyway.

P.S If s/he actually finds me and decides to beat me up, I'm not responsible for my actions then. TY

The Dreamwalker1 votes

I personally see more of a Lara Croft (the girl from the game Tomb Raider) in this picture than I see Katarina.

I looked at the picture of Katarina that LoL has posted. Her eyebrows start inwards a tad then they shoot up across her face. Her nose is pretty close to the real one. Kat's jawline I cannot really describe. Kat's lips have more divets (I guess is what they are). Also, her top lip is thinner than the bottom lip.

Overall, I like the picture!

Terozu1 votes

The eyebrows are like that because of her expression, I was going for something a bit more demure, to show a more feminine side, she is technically a princess after all. And I based her facial structure off of Mercenary Kat, as it's my favorite Kat skin. I will admite my proportions are probably off, I'm more of an animesque artist, and this is my attempt at something more realistic. Thx for the critique.

The Dreamwalker1 votes

{quoted}

The eyebrows are like that because of her expression, I was going for something a bit more demure, to show a more feminine side, she is technically a princess after all. And I based her facial structure off of Mercenary Kat, as it's my favorite Kat skin. I will admite my proportions are probably off, I'm more of an animesque artist, and this is my attempt at something more realistic. Thx for the critique.

Oh! Then, yea I see Katarina. I thought you did the classic splash. Yea, if you did the Merc version of Kat, then I can see her better.

Kukan Seishin1 votes

I like, here is my upvote :)

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