So what if varus' sister ....

CaptainAntiHeroz·Jan 30, 2018·4 votes·688 views

What if the Darkin ended up inhabiting kassadins daughter and because of her void thing ended up being corrupted, and to seek power she wishes to fill he siblings and runeterra with that of the void. But after years of resisting the void kassadins daughter is partially able to control her self with the energy of the Darkin having partially restored her mind. So a stance swapping champ that could play as a support or mid laner with Darkin void icathyn and (possibly Shurima) influences?

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Velzard of KozJan 30, 20185 votes

What If she's in Irelia's blades, thought. The horsemen of apocalypse had sword, scythe, bow and scales. And Irelia has ability called Equilibrum Strike/Equilibrium Srike. *Puts on tinfoil hat*

Dread NachtJan 30, 20181 votes

Hoky shit! You're onto something here. If irelia turns out to be wielding a darkin weapon you heard it here first folks!

OleandervineJan 30, 20181 votes

I've heard this theory quite frequently before now, ever since it was revealed that Varus had a sister Darkin.

My own personal spin on the theory is that I believe Irelia will be the first canon champion we have who has already dominated her Darkin weapon.

Velzard of KozJan 30, 20181 votes

Actually, I think I saw at least one other person somewhere saying Irelia might have Darkin. In the end, they are about weapons, so they can be theoretized and fit into any champion that has extraordinary weapon. I just think it fits well due to the scales thing.

OleandervineJan 30, 20182 votes

I grow tired of people trying to apply Judeo-Christian mythology to everything they see. [sg-ahri-3]

Velzard of KozJan 30, 20182 votes

I don't apply it to everything.
How could the three other weapons fitting be just coincidence?

Also, Aatrox's Passive calls his state Hellbent, does that trigger you too? Lol.

OleandervineJan 30, 20182 votes

Hellbent is an expression. Such as "He was hellbent on getting to work without being late." It's very different than people saying "SEVEN DEADLY SINS! TAHM KENCH! EVELYNN! SHACO!" or "HORSEMEN OF APOCALPYSE! KAYN, VARUS, AATROX!"

And yes, the weapons are probably coincidence. Swords and Bows are INCREDIBLY common in a high fantasy setting. Drawing specific inferences from characters wielding swords or bows is like assuming that people who wear glasses are smarter than you are. Scythes, also, are popular weapons in pop culture. People have an infatuation with the concept of the Grim Reaper, as well as the scythe he wields. It's a very common fascination, so it's not terribly unheard of that it would make it into a game like this. Having it also be tied to a demon of the soul and Kayn's battle for his own stems from this connection to the Grim Reaper.

Velzard of KozJan 30, 20182 votes

Yes, someone wielding sword, bow or scythe is common in fantasy when it's independent. But they share theme. They are Darkins, quite obviously looking like judo-christian demons, the three Darkins just happen to wield these weapons. We have Garen who is the fantasy sword-wielder archetype, Ashe who is the fantasy bow-wielder archetype.

Also, I love how Kayn in your version is supposed to be inspired by death when the horseman of apocalypse that wields scythe in depictions is literally death, called Death and said to be accompanied by Hades. From this very fact I sense you are the fedora-type who just hates the idea that someone gets inspired by Biblical myths.

It's the same thing as If Riot released a wolf/dog-like champion from Freljord who represents doom, is connected to the end of the world by devouring and If someone pointed out it sounds like Fenrir you'd be like "I grow tired of people who are trying to apply Norse mythology everywhere". LOL.

Or If people would be pointing to Ascended being connected to certain Egyptian gods. "I grow tired of people who are trying to apply Egyptian mythology everywhere."

CaptainAntiHerozJan 30, 20182 votes

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I don't apply it to everything.

How could the three other weapons fitting be just coincidence?

Also, Aatrox's Passive calls his state Hellbent, does that trigger you too? Lol.

Well there a 5 Darkin total and irelia is 99% likely to NOT be one, mainly because two ionians having similar stories.... (Like old varus lore was pretty much Yasuo...) So no, to both of those tbh

redniwediSJan 30, 20181 votes

The Void is some sort of magical corruption that spreads and consumes, and is very different from the Darkin. That said the last few remaining Darkin are contained within magical items, so it's not out of the question that a Darkin could be effected by the Void.

That said Riot has enough issues with their latest three way champion, I highly doubt they want to make a human girl possessed by a Darkin that is corrupted by the Void.

Still, even if exact details are not great it's not a terrible idea to think about.

CaptainAntiHerozJan 30, 20181 votes

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The Void is some sort of magical corruption that spreads and consumes, and is very different from the Darkin. That said the last few remaining Darkin are contained within magical items, so it's not out of the question that a Darkin could be effected by the Void.

That said Riot has enough issues with their latest three way champion, I highly doubt they want to make a human girl possessed by a Darkin that is corrupted by the Void.

Still, even if exact details are not great it's not a terrible idea to think about.

I'm basically just going off the theory that void creatures are magical in some way and therefore a Darkin would be able to be in it then because she's afflicted she'd be like a host and a vessel at the same time theoretically

PeachyBubbleStarJan 30, 20181 votes

give her twin chain scythes~ XD maybe she can swap between melee using them and decent range by whipping them around with the chains~

CaptainAntiHerozJan 30, 20181 votes

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give her twin chain scythes~ XD maybe she can swap between melee using them and decent range by whipping them around with the chains~

Naw a support or mage, cuz we don't have that as a Darkin, that would be Jayce and kayn

OleandervineJan 30, 20181 votes

That concept infringes on Akali's weapons of choice.

PeachyBubbleStarJan 30, 20181 votes

Akali uses Kama, not scythes or chain scythes? also adding chains to Kama would make a whole new weapon so...

CaptainAntiHerozJan 30, 20181 votes

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Akali uses Kama, not scythes or chain scythes? also adding chains to Kama would make a whole new weapon so...

Yeah... Chain-kama and there a 5 Darkin so apocalypse theme is not it, and one for each role thus the support (my idea) makes a form (in a way) of sense because would corruption would make her into a weapon, thus appeasing a support role while not stealing preexisting weapons

PeachyBubbleStarJan 30, 20181 votes

what if a support could latch themselves on an ally granting buffs and casting abilities from inside them? as a weapon that can inhabit an ally champion and maybe idk it's hard af to explain, something similar to like what Mina did from Dawngate but maybe she could look like Viyana from dawngate xD

HalcyonDwellerJan 30, 20181 votes

Sounds like a few too many things smashed together but if it happened I'm sure Riot could make it make sense.

CaptainAntiHerozJan 31, 20181 votes

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Sounds like a few too many things smashed together but if it happened I'm sure Riot could make it make sense.

It's basically just a mage right? But the mage can change stance to a corruption consumed Darkin mage imagine hulk.... But their a wizard and not a fury based entity

HalcyonDwellerJan 31, 20181 votes

Yeah I get that about it, however you are talking about dragging void, darkin, Icathia and possibly also Shurima into one character. It's such a mish-mosh of themes that it would feel like they are being combined just for the sake of combining them instead of because of it making cohesive thematic sense.

CaptainAntiHerozJan 31, 20181 votes

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Yeah I get that about it, however you are talking about dragging void, darkin, Icathia and possibly also Shurima into one character. It's such a mish-mosh of themes that it would feel like they are being combined just for the sake of combining them instead of because of it making cohesive thematic sense.

Amumu Corki Udyr Fiddlesticks : list of characters that don't make sense but exist.... I don't really see an issue, it's something new, and would add story to the void and Darkin which both aren't very lore heavy and need to have a better explanation

HalcyonDwellerJan 31, 20181 votes

You've entirely missed my point. From a lore perspective, it would look bad if Riot tried to make a Shuriman-Demacian-Noxian-Darkin-Vastayan-etc champion. When you combine so many different themes together it begins to look like you were just checking off a list of things to include just for the sake of including them. It degrades the lore and robs it of its immersive-ness for the readers.

It becomes more of a homage to league's different factions than an actual character. Amumu, Corki, Udyr, and Fiddlesticks each have very strong thematics. Having a character with 3 or more factions combined into them leaves no room for cohesive themes to be core to the character. I honestly think that those 4 champions would have stronger thematics than the one you are suggesting here.

Edit: Not saying I have a problem with your character overall, a transforming mage/support character that can hulk out sounds really cool, but I do not think it would be wise to tie their lore to so many factions.

NaalithJan 31, 20181 votes

I think it's a super cool idea but I doubt we'll ever see something with that many conflicting personalities. A weapon wielded by a little kid who also was corrupted by the Void may be a few too many steps into being convoluted to ever happen from a narrative perspective.

With that being said, I DO think there is a high chance that we will see Setaka in the game at some point, who is an Ascended Shuriman similar to Nasus and Renekton and once wielded the same weapon Sivir now uses. She died in Icathia when the Void incursion began, and I do think it is highly likely we will see a corrupted super-powerful version of her either in the game or at the very least in the lore at some point. We know the Void corrupts and takes over hosts, but other than Kassadin kinda starting to have it happen to him we haven't seen that on a champion yet, and I think a fully corrupted Void entity who is NOT a monster originally born in the Void would be super cool.

CaptainAntiHerozJan 31, 20181 votes

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I think it's a super cool idea but I doubt we'll ever see something with that many conflicting personalities. A weapon wielded by a little kid who also was corrupted by the Void may be a few too many steps into being convoluted to ever happen from a narrative perspective.

With that being said, I DO think there is a high chance that we will see Setaka in the game at some point, who is an Ascended Shuriman similar to Nasus and Renekton and once wielded the same weapon Sivir now uses. She died in Icathia when the Void incursion began, and I do think it is highly likely we will see a corrupted super-powerful version of her either in the game or at the very least in the lore at some point. We know the Void corrupts and takes over hosts, but other than Kassadin kinda starting to have it happen to him we haven't seen that on a champion yet, and I think a fully corrupted Void entity who is NOT a monster originally born in the Void would be super cool.

Malzahar ?

SelegunJan 31, 20181 votes

I'd hazard a guess that she is in a similar spot to Varus in that she is fused to someone. Taking a look at how things panned out for Varus I'd say there is a chance she is sharing the body of the Ruined Queen, though there isn't much solid evidence to point towards this besides both locations just so happened to have healing waters that a dead/dieing body was tossed into.