Why does Riot delete your posts for being in the wrong board?

If you can't be bothered to post something in the correct location, I don't see why Riot has to be bothered to move it.

Depends.

Here are the two general schools of thought on what the Boards platform is "supposed to be":

• Similar to a forum, one unified space with many sections
• Similar to reddit, many individual spaces

It seems like Riot and the community consistently butt heads on this disparity.

Additionally, players new to the platform may be confused or unfamiliar with UI elements and thus post in the wrong place. This can end up feeling like an immediate punishment when their content is deleted, because at the time they didn't know any better.

but they can be bothered to delete it? Cmon dude.

Actually, a while back I read a guide in one of the sub forums, it was very extensive and well written (no I don't recall details)

About a month later the 'tips and trick' sub forum was created, and I thought: "Hey they can easily move this" so I reported for wrong sub forum, and it 'disappeared'.

If something like that ever happened to my guide then I'm honestly not sure if I should be pissed or just sad.

I think there are three distinct pieces that are a bit confusing, as far as the general consensus on delete > move seems to be. All quotes will be from your responses in the threads you linked.

that approach doesn't scale well with hundreds of thousands of posts per week. Let's say that you get 100k posts and 10% are posted in the wrong category. This is 10,000 posts that need to be moved, roughly taking 15-30 seconds to accomplish. Do the math.

I just did the math. This results in, according to your average time per deletion, 225,000 seconds per day of time spent moving threads. This is 3,750 minutes, which boils down to 62.5 hours per day of work. Assuming an eight-hour work day, with 88% productivity (one hour per day not productive), that means you need 9 employees to handle the entire bulk of moderation in this regard.

Assuming 1,000 posts per day (a more reasonable comparison to current activity) with the same ratios, a single full-time employee can handle the move requests in less than an hour 37.5 minutes). How much less time does deletion take for this to be an impossible amount of time to overcome?

Here's something even more interesting. Let's say that in this community there are 80,000 active posters creating this 100,000 post per day number. Let's also assume that 0.1% of the population (one in a thousand) is a community moderator, and that each community moderator moves 12.5 posts a day (4.7 minutes of dedication) on average. This means we have 800 community moderators, moving 10,000 posts a day.

Using our previous numbers, this means that our slice of community moderators is handling the entire volume of move requests. For free.

How many posts a day is the Boards platform handling, currently? Out of those posts, how many of them are removed for being in the wrong section? Is the platform being advertised to attract more people to make this 100k number realistic?

Why is it taking 15-30 seconds to move a post, but it takes significantly less time to delete? Moving should, in theory, be a bit of scrolling and a single extra click. 3 clicks vs 4 shouldn't be such a huge disparity that it's impossible to maintain.

Most importantly, if your community is 100,000 people on a forum, you **need **to have community moderation presence. This is basically non-negotiable, as it's impossible to pay enough people to handle that sort of volume without going bankrupt. These community moderators would be well-equipped to move threads, and it's actually less risky to have them moving things than deleting them.

If we went around moving everything that was posted incorrectly, the mods wouldn't have time to do anything else, and it would create a situation where we have lopsided participation with a majority of the traffic on one or two boards. Get onboard!

I'm missing the logical step here. Your moderators currently go around deleting everything that's posted incorrectly; do they have time to do anything else, and does moving take that much longer?

Also, why would this result in lopsided participation whereas deletion doesn't? If topics are accurately and efficiently moved, activity shouldn't be transferring between boards where topics differ. The reason General Discussion was such a problem was that there was almost no moderation presence with moving threads correctly. Additionally, almost the entirety of Riot posters used GD at the exclusion of all other boards. This is not a problem with the concept of moving threads; this is a problem with policy.

The moderators found your post in Live Gameplay Balance several hours ago. They deemed it to be in the wrong board (which it was) but decided to leave it because it was well written, constructive, and already had a lot of visibility.

I have mentioned this before, but this is very inconsistent. Why is a thread with visibility treated differently than one without if the goal is to keep the boards separated?

Wasn't the character limit supposed to be raised? I don't feel like I have that mu

You mean this one?

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/**summoners-rift**

Emphasis mine.

No, it was specifically about JUST the visual representation. No game mechanics at all. Just how that animation is played.

Probably 'community creations'. The art board appears to be for discussion of in-game art, such as splash art.

Yes, it is kinda confusing.

By art I'm guessing you mean Story & Art. If so, you may have missed this portion of the Guidelines.

DO NOT post fan art or champion/skin concepts

I can see a couple of boards where fan art could be appropriate. Off the top of my head there's Community Creations, Misc, GD, and even Skins & Champion concepts if it's a new idea.

We're actively working on a new approach to how we communicate the Guidelines of each board. Additionally, we're reworking all of the messaging that moderators send to make it more helpful, and less ambiguous. We know there's confusion, and that's a problem we want to solve.

It's to discuss Story and Art, not to post them.