Like yeah, he's a spirit trapped in a suit of armor and he's got a few quotes about metal (the music, not the matter) but that's the extent of metal relatedness. He's way more closely related to death, torture, and anguish.
The dude's name is literally King of Death in German.
Sure the new name is dumb, but so is the old name. Let's think of better names.
The Soul Vanquisher The Dread Knight Keep it goin'
Smitty Manjensen7 votesHe was a metal reference since forever, every ability he has is related to a metal song, his fuckin title is master of metal. I never liked playing him but I liked how he's metal(music) based and the names of his abilities.
Romans VI XXIII5 votesKing of Death: Lord of Death. Yes such a good name RIOT.
And he had 100% to do with metal before his god awful rework.
Mordekaiser: The Paladin of Pain. Sounds so much better if they insist on changing his title.
The Bearded Bard1 votesNo, he didn't lol. this is his original lore.
From the Shadow Isles comes a champion like no other. Standing eight feet tall, concealed within a razor-sharp armored shell is a creature known only as Mordekaiser. Some allege that he is a man, though none have actually seen what lies within the plates that encompass him. There are those who posit that he isn't a living being, but rather a particularly dark specimen of the undead rumored to infest his distant homeland - but such rumors are surely merely the ramblings of the paranoid or the whispers of the insane. What is known is this: Mordekaiser arrived unannounced at the Institute one day and, with the rasp of an echoing sepulcher, requested to join the League of Legends.
As if his fearful visage doesn't disturb enough, his touch bears a sinister plague. Those unfortunate enough to be caught within his grasp fall victim to incurable maladies. In fact, Mordekaiser seems mystically connected to sickness, as if it feeds and comprises part of his chilling essence. He has been seen stalking the slums of Noxus, drawn to the plague-ridden and diseased. However, there is something in his clever tactics, something in his noble stance, something in the tone of his unearthly commands that has led many to believe that Mordekaiser is more than just a foot soldier. Some see the distinguishing characteristics of a general. While many have learned to accept this unsettling possibility, a lingering question keeps them uneasily awake at the witching hour - If Mordekaiser is a general, what nightmarish army lurks at his command?
You're just another sheep.
Weissritter1 votesFor someone who went back and found the old lore, I'm surprised you didn't go back and realize all his old SFX on skills were metal as well before they redid them before his rework, even. His Q used to fire shards of metal after the initial hit, his W used to basically be a shroud of metal, and his E had maces sprout from the ground to hit the enemy. Only his ult was originally NOT metal based and soul based.
Riot has basically slowly been changing him over time away from his initial image, and iirc when his E changed people on the boards didn't like that either because even back then it strayed from the metal image. Essentially, they systematically changed him over time until the point that they can make the excuse of 'metal mage didn't fit' because they THEMSELVES are the ones that pushed it outward to make it less obvious.
The guy isn't a sheep, don't be silly. >: There are arguments for both sides lol
Romans VI XXIII1 votesEvery ability related to a metal song,
Every skill except his ult had metal SFX, and visuals
He is nothing but a Spirit inside METAL armor.
Everything about him has been metal related, until now.
You are blind if you cant see it, you took the time to go find his old lore, take the time and go watch old youtube vids of him, EVERYTHING IS METAL!
Zair Umbras4 votesMorde has a lot to do with metal.
Morde's passive is him doing damage with his metal abilities to strengthen his armored exterior with their life force.
Morde's Q is him smacking the person with a gigantic, spiked, metal mace.
Morde's W has literal metal shards circling him.
Morde's E super heats the floor with soul energy and turning it into metal.
Morde's R uses the power of Metal to rip the soul from some one.
Three of his abilities, passive, Q, and W, all are DIRECTLY related to Metal with his passive being his Suit of Metal, his Q being his Metal Mace, and his W having actual Metal flying around him and his partner. To say his kit isn't Metal related is like saying Heimer's kit isn't Turret based because only two of his abilities spawn a turret or that Ahri isn't the Nine-Tailed Fox because her abilities have nothing to do with her abilities (Her abilities all seem to be focused around that orb after all) or Bard isn't a Wandering Caretaker because his only actual ability to directly take care of his teammates is his W, the healing shrine, or Kalista isn't the Spear of Vengeance because she doesn't get any boost for taking vengeance on anyone.
Ultimately, titles are decided by Lore and there's nothing in his current lore or in the new lore that says Mordekaiser is the 'Lord of Death'. His current lore has him grow strength when around other's pain and sorrow and his new lore states he enslaves souls. I mean, if we were to keep this true to lore like the rest, he's the Lord of the Shadow Isles or Lord of Anguish or Iron Slaver (Since he's metal and he enslaves souls) or something... I mean, his kit is metal-based both Musically and Literally.
Unlucky Number71 votes[{quoted}](name=Zair Umbras,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=yAJio4Xl,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-10-17T07:10:19.696+0000)
Morde has a lot to do with metal.
Morde's passive is him doing damage with his metal abilities to strengthen his armored exterior with their life force.
Morde's Q is him smacking the person with a gigantic, spiked, metal mace.
Morde's W has literal metal shards circling him.
Morde's E super heats the floor with soul energy and turning it into metal.
Morde's R uses the power of Metal to rip the soul from some one.
Three of his abilities, passive, Q, and W, all are DIRECTLY related to Metal with his passive being his Suit of Metal, his Q being his Metal Mace, and his W having actual Metal flying around him and his partner.
even with you saying all of that. I still don't get a "metal" feel from morde. if he was even more like magneto sure, but he still looks like a huge guy in platemail that uses magic.
The Bearded Bard1 votesYou're really reaching here tbh. He's the closest thing we've got to a lich in this game. I'd rather focus the lich part of him than the metal. Keep the puns, most of them are about music, not physical metal.
Rendarkan1 votesKarthus is actually the closest thing to a Lich being his passive... Morde is more Death Knight to me.
The Bearded Bard1 votesKarthus isn't a lich at all. A lich is a being whose soul is bound to an inanimate object, usually with the goal of immortality. Irelia is closer to being a lich than Karthus.
Ulquiorra9951 votesThen why couldn't lich be focused on metal if the thing that makes them a lich is being soul-bound to an object? I don't see Irelia walking around with rotting flesh and decaying skin.
Zair Umbras1 votesMorde, through what we've seen over the years through teasers and the new lore, is a powerful being that suited himself in armor willingly to keep his form alive while he grew in power through other's suffering. His indomitable will and determination as well as his enjoyment of true affliction has kept him alive. He is not like a Lich where he's bound to an inanimate object, oh no. He's bound to the world of Runeterra by his own power, his own will, and most of all, through other's suffering. His weapon of choice of course is Metal. Prior to his recent rework, his E had maces fly up through the ground, which was in itself a bit silly, which is why the new one fits despite himself still being the Master of Metal.
Mordekaiser is not the Lord of Death, he is the Master of Death. He does not rain supreme over it, he controls it and keeps it under submission with his will and the sheer power of Metal, which is why his title as the Master of Metal was very suiting.
Count Zubat4 votesSo maybe instead of throwing Morde's connection with metal out through a window, Riot should try and direct Mordekaiser's identity more towards the metalish aspect instead of turning him into another generic Shadow Isles undead?
The Bearded Bard2 votesGeneric? No. They're all pretty different. Karthus was a boy that was obsessed with death, studied and overcame it. Yorick sought immortality to be remembered. Morde is a lich that binds his victims to his will through sheer force. His malice for the living is unrivaled. Hecarim is a fucking undead centaur. Elise was a regular person that was so enthralled by the shadow isles that she became a creature.
Count Zubat3 votesLook at them from visual standpoint. Karthus is generic lich. Kalista is a spectre with spear. Thresh looks kinda interesting, but he is also a spectre, nothing else. Elise isn't undead. Yorick also doesn't look anything spectacular, just a gravedigger zombie thing. Althrough, I can agree, Hecarim looks badass.
Now, look at Morde. He is the most mysterious of all Shadow Isles characters. You don't know what's lurking in that suit of armor. Nobody knows. All the old lores Morde had maybe weren't the best pieces of text, but they all were pointing out that who Morde is is a mystery. The old lores were speculating: maybe he was once a general? Maybe that armor Morde is in isn't protecting him from danger, but us from his terrifying powers? There was the atmosphere of mystery surrounding Mordekaiser. He is not a lich. He is not a spectre, nor skeleton, nor zombie. Nobody knows what he is, he is the being of pain and agony, that's the only thing we know about him.
By giving him ghosty VFX and such a generic title, it just seems like Riot is trying to make Morde into typical Shadow Isles undead champ. Instead, they could leave him as this super mysterious character, as well as focus on metallic aspects of Mordekaiser.
Romans VI XXIII1 votesLMFAO, Lord of Death is as fucking generic as it comes.......
Brascus3 votesMorde was imprisoned in metal, and his resolve and will turned the prison into a suit of armor. Please, tell me about another champ who manipulated their prison which is made of metal into a suit of armor?
His passive is literally called iron man
His Q is a literal reference to ace of spades
His W coats people in magnetic metal
His E drains the iron in peoples blood out of them
Plenty of metal in all this.
The Bearded Bard2 votesYou're just making shit up lmfao 'His E drains the iron in peoples' blood out of them'
From the Shadow Isles comes a champion like no other. Standing eight feet tall, concealed within a razor-sharp armored shell is a creature known only as Mordekaiser. Some allege that he is a man, though none have actually seen what lies within the plates that encompass him. There are those who posit that he isn't a living being, but rather a particularly dark specimen of the undead rumored to infest his distant homeland - but such rumors are surely merely the ramblings of the paranoid or the whispers of the insane. What is known is this: Mordekaiser arrived unannounced at the Institute one day and, with the rasp of an echoing sepulcher, requested to join the League of Legends.
As if his fearful visage doesn't disturb enough, his touch bears a sinister plague. Those unfortunate enough to be caught within his grasp fall victim to incurable maladies. In fact, Mordekaiser seems mystically connected to sickness, as if it feeds and comprises part of his chilling essence. He has been seen stalking the slums of Noxus, drawn to the plague-ridden and diseased. However, there is something in his clever tactics, something in his noble stance, something in the tone of his unearthly commands that has led many to believe that Mordekaiser is more than just a foot soldier. Some see the distinguishing characteristics of a general. While many have learned to accept this unsettling possibility, a lingering question keeps them uneasily awake at the witching hour - If Mordekaiser is a general, what nightmarish army lurks at his command?
That is Mordekaiser's original lore. Does that scream 'metal mage'? Hell no. It screams badass lich whose soul is encased in a suit of armor. No one said anything about imprisonment.
Ulquiorra9951 votesStill, combined with his lore the metal in his abilities made perfect sense. A person who manipulated his metal prison/torture device into an armor utilizing that metal for bot offense in a form of metal shreds and blasts as well as defense is honestly much more interesting than generic deathknight we are getting.
Big Lincoln3 votesHave you ever considered we want him to be more about metal, because it's a space that he and he alone can fill in the roster
we already have plenty of champs with those shitty teal colors, let's use metal and lightning to define our favorite undead
RogueWill2 votesIt should be just "The master"
Kotex2 votesThe Dragon Tamer :D
Lintu Puck2 votessurprised this posted isn't downvoted to hell yet XD But I agree with you (and one of the few that will openly do so) about Morde not really being about metal. He is more death magic and the metal stuff just being a conduit.
Stars Shaper2 votesWhat keeps Morde from using metal based magic? We are sure that his armor is nothing like what Thresh and Hecarim wear (which is just a physical manifestation of them) but it's a tool to imprison a more devastating power, it's a powerful artifact.
Mordekaiser power comes from the harvest and control of Pain, this can be easily achieved with the control over metal debrids (Edit: From his own armor) for torturing his victims.
Morde being not connected with metal is like saying that Ashe isn't connected with frost magic because she is an archer.
redniwediS1 votesIt's a problem between how he was presented early on in the old lore, and the direction the current lore is going. Combine this with the fact that his entire kit changed in a way many do not like and you've got a whole lot of really upset people who are not just QQing.
People don't get over changes they don't like quickly, so while Riot may do an amazing job with Morde from here on out, particularly lore wise, it is still a blow to the people who loved him the way he was.
Dryad Soraka1 voteslord of death sounds good tho
Unlucky Number71 votesto be fair the new name is dumb the old name is cheesy dumb. cause of the puns and references.
but just from looking at morde "metal" was never the first thing to pop into my mind.
Daedalus8711 votesInB4 massive amounts of downvotes and "metal dude with abilities that reference metal songs make him a master of metal".
RyzeRework1 votesLord of death metal? Or too obvious
AzureInTheDark1 votesThe name "The Iron Revenant" from another thread always sounded pretty neat in my opinion.
I also think we just rename Mordekaiser "Alphonse."
CasterGilgamesh1 voteswhy not "The Soul Conqueror" also yes i agree i dont know where people got him to have metal as his main thing
Daen1 votesThe Iron Revenant is one I saw suggested, I think it would fit him well while also allowing Riot to have some room to play with his concept.