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People that are telling others to kill themselves has to stop! Please help me get this noticed!

Warpather·1/4/2015, 1:11:57 AM·600 votes·24,371 views

The league of legends community seems to have developed a very bad habit of telling allies and enemies to kill themselves in real life if they do poorly. This is EXTREMELY dangerous to do. Personally i've been through a bit of depression and I believe someone would actually do this if depressed enough. It actually happened to me recently which caused me to post this. I ask that we do something to let Riot know that this is not ok. It poses a real threat to peoples lives. If anyone has any ideas on how to get the word out to riot, i'd like to stop this behaviour as I believe it is exceptionally dangerous. TL;DR Summoners telling their allies to kill themselves has got to stop. It's dangerous and unacceptable under any circumstance. Help me tell Rito it has to stop!

EDIT: Thank you all who have shown your support. If you are just reading this for the first time please post and tell me your examples of how something similar has happened to you! I want RITO to see this. It is important.

Edit 2: The amount of support I have received for this post is amazing! I thank you all so much for taking time to add to this! I would like to clarify what I am looking to achieve, I understand fully no system will ever be perfect and its impossible to eliminate trolls and hateful people, but I would like a better system to help remove some of these particularly nasty and harmful people. I do not have the answers but together, I believe we can come up with an amazing system! So I implore all of you brilliant minded people out there to help me think of a solution! Together we can make a difference!

605 Comments

TonyTonyMordecai1/4/2015, 3:36:30 AM42 votes

Stuff like what you mentioned has happened before, but through other media sources, and since League has such a large playerbase, player toxicity should be dealt with more severe consequences, since more people (especially teens, since there are so many decisions in that part of their lives, that sometimes they get seriously overwhelmed by it all, and tend to take some comments more seriously than what they were originally meant to be taken). I haven't really had this happen to me recently, but I feel like if I was feeling down and I saw that, I would probably take it the wrong way as well. +1 to this post, and I hope Riot takes this into account REALLY SOON!

Kosmic Rider1/4/2015, 6:43:36 PM34 votes

The biggest problem is certain people have come to accept toxicity as a fact, they have given into apathy and simply give up. The saying "evil wins when good men do nothing." Definitely applies. Yes, realistically there will always be children (whether it is mentally or physically), who get their jollies off by bullying others online. Would they say these things to another random stranger in person? What if they actually had a face to talk to and noticed the individual they're talking to is twice their size. There are competitive parts of other games that are heavily policed by game companies to prevent said toxicity. You look at some high end massive mult-player online role-playing games and their player versus player content, and you won't see the same level of harassment by its community due to the potential of being banned. I know, I used to be one of those immature individuals who would talk trash. Then, I got banned from blizzard for three months.

One cannot simply say "grow thicker skin."

There are too many variables involved in individuals lives and it can get to people. Yes, this is a highly competitive game, but it still doesn't excuse this behavior. It still isn't right to accept it and "deal with it" as if we are obligated to. In the end, it's harassment. It's bullying. These things infringe upon the rights of individual. I mean, doesn't everyone have the right to play a game without being verbally insulted? Some people play league for fun and don't even do ranked. It actually is against most laws aka cyber bullying and harassment. The reality is, yes, it's incredibly difficult to police this behavior, it takes constant vigilance by Riot Games and a desire to do so.

I myself am getting tired of seeing this in the majority of my games. People blaming others and just simply raging at things that are out of their control. Their inability to analyze or look at their own behavior and take out their unhappiness on others. I had to report 3 people in 3 different matches last night just because of trolling or their inability to resist typing filth. I guess all we can do is try to constantly reach out to Riot and keep reporting these players. It might have an impact or it might not. But, at least you are doing your job and not standing by idly as said behavior runs rampant. I don't know all the answers, but when someone says "don't be sensitive" I immediately think "grow a pair and stand up for what's right, rather than be part of the problem."

PL551/4/2015, 3:32:10 AM23 votes

I once waited one second in the bush before ganking and my bot lane died. Then for the rest of the game I basically got cyberbullied and they told me multiple times to kill myself. This is why I mute literally anyone who says anything negative at all to me, even if it's constructive criticism, I can't trust anyone to be civil anymore.

SecretAgentHulk1/4/2015, 2:13:24 AM19 votes

Riot is starting to take toxicity more seriously. If you see something like this, absolutely create a support ticket.

BakedLotion1/4/2015, 4:12:40 AM19 votes

Karthus go kill yourself!

alaskaneagle1/4/2015, 6:40:04 AM16 votes

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I had 2 games where a guy on my team spent 30 minutes trying to convince my teammate to kill themselves. I still have their names on my troll track list and they have Never been punished. Though I was punished for encouraging people to report trolls like them.

I'm never seen a single troll punished in this game but I see people punished for having the nerve to care. If you care enough to want to help reduce the troll problem so riot is no longer the undisputed Worst community of any on-line game, you will be punished for it by riot.

Taarki1/4/2015, 3:11:47 PM15 votes

I agree 100%, but I would like this taken further, with racist, sexist, and homophobic slurs also being in this category. And people should get a punishment on their first offense because these things are not acceptable. Something like a week chat restriction, or a 1-2 day ban on the first offense and then get massively worse on the second, third, etc.

The Trent1/4/2015, 3:31:29 AM12 votes

I've noticed this. I am pretty toxic myself, but I would never wish caner or death on someone unless I was joking and they knew. Topics such as death and cancer (ebola and other diseases too) aren't even very funny which is why I hardly joke about them.

Downfall1/4/2015, 6:53:32 PM10 votes

I honestly think that if you tell someone to kill yourself your account should get a month+ ban and you should be told precisely why.

CharQueen1/4/2015, 1:16:40 AM10 votes

EDIT: Done dealing with an infinite number of dumb replies.

Ridley Prime1/4/2015, 7:29:33 PM9 votes

Don't tell people to kill themselves, don't call people retarded, don't call people racist slurs, don't be a huge asswipe.

Saying things like this on the internet gets you nothing. Why waste your time? If you're getting mad enough at people over a videogame and telling them to kill themselves, they probably don't have any problem. But you sure do.

SelflessTeammate1/5/2015, 4:36:31 AM7 votes

While I do support less toxicity in LoL in all its forms, that is not how depression works, and it's a dangerous misunderstanding to believe it is, if only for the fact that those with depression don't have a "breaking point" in the form of another player telling them to go kill themselves.

More importantly, "planting the idea of suicide in someone's head" is one of the most longstanding and astonishingly misguided beliefs about suicide.

Suicidal ideation and behavior just doesn't work that way, at all. It doesn't just happen out of nowhere, even if it seems like it has. It's a long-ongoing, exceptionally tortuous process that, while its reasons for happening may seem "trivial", are in fact, not. Their beliefs, while warped, are still based in reality well outside of LoL, way, WAY far away from it, to things that are critically important to one's well-being.

The spirit of the idea is in the right place, but the reasoning behind it, I have to point out for its own cause, is nonsensical and misguided.

Morribyte1/5/2015, 4:50:16 PM6 votes

Agreed.

Even though it's not exactly related, I once had a team-mate who had a bad game. One of my team-mates at the end of the game said to him, "I hope you get cancer". He didn't respond. A few seconds after he left, he started talking to me about how he had earlier in the week been diagnosed with testicular cancer.

So sad. I think we need stronger punishments for this type of toxicity. Flaming is one thing, wishing death / cancer unto other people is not acceptable.

2yftLP0KQC8/26/2015, 10:31:24 AM5 votes

it should be a perma-ban if people say that. god forbid someone actually does off themselves. you dont know shit of that or what he or she has been through or is going through.

Bard in a Diaper1/4/2015, 4:46:46 AM5 votes

rule of thumb, if you annoy me by being one of those kids that harps on every mistake and is generally negative in team chat I will tell you to go kill yourself. Don't like it? Stop being an annoying douche teammate.

TheLittlestDaddy1/4/2015, 11:18:46 AM5 votes

So this isn't the same plight but I am very on board with you OP in your discrepancies, I've been having the problem with extreme homophobia in my games. Recently I lost a ranked game because a team mate of mine called another person a "faggot" and I shamed him for his bigotry, and told him i was going to report him. I didn't throw insults, just said that it was not ok behavior. Thus he intentionally fed my lane for 9 kills 12 mins, all because I stood up for what i believe to be fair and right. Didn't mean to take this off topic, i was just wanting to remark in general that I find many people in the league community to be largely insensitive and uncaring. And to all those people that say "relax man it's just a game" that's the whole thing. I come to play league TO relax, not be surrounded by people that spew hatred and go so as far to tell someone to kill themselves. Riot seriously needs to step up their game in offenses like this that relate to real world issues such as depression/suicide, race, sexual orientation otherwise they're going to alienate a lot of players...

AthenasVendetta1/4/2015, 11:47:00 AM4 votes

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Personally I've been through a bit of depression and I believe someone would actually do this if depressed enough. It actually happened to me recently which caused me to post this.

Hey, dude

There are nice people out there although rarely found. If you ever need to vent or need someone to talk to I am normally on or will listen.

Mathbalnase1/4/2015, 6:14:09 AM4 votes

Important note: the behaviour described in the OP is actually legitimately criminal in many jurisdictions.

Do yourself a favour, don't do things that could get your ass tossed in jail. Your anus will thank you.

LaMaLiCkEr1/4/2015, 8:10:22 PM1 votes

if someones trying to give you advice, maybe you should listen to it