Why won't you make the new icons cost 1500 IP each? What is the hurt? People want to get rid of excess IP. These icons do nothing more than show a jungle camp. Its better than the pre-given icons but is just as good as a icon you earn in a event and definitely not as good as icons that give something as an added extra (like the new LCS icons that give in-game emotes or the poro icons that gave the poros new looks). I'm just saying (and asking).
HexaDecimel3 votesIts exactly like when they came out Chroma packs and stated that they would start off charging RP for them but might change it down the road. Well No, once they started selling them for RP they will never offer them for IP because the people who purchased them would complain. At this point I don't even think they will be offered to players that achieve a certain mastery with a champion because it would be somewhat meaningless if another person can just buy the chroma pack.
I guess I might sound upset by this and the truth is I am actually not. The icons and cromas are not worth the price in my opinion so I am not going to be spending money on them. But I would have loved it if they had been available for IP so I could use some of mine that is collecting dust.
DrCyanide1 votesDidn't you have to buy the gromp icon you're using?
It's it fair to say that people who buy one of the icons will likely only buy one and stop at that?
HexaDecimel2 votesTo be honest with you I did, lol. But it was using a $10 gift card from a friend. I do really like that icon :p
I still would have preferred to get it with IP
SmokedAlmonds2 votesBecause their business model is give the game for free and sell cosmetics to people who are willing to support them.
Having too much IP is an insignificant issue.
Plop The Druid1 votesBecause their business model is give the game for free and sell cosmetics to people who are willing to support them.
Having too much IP is an insignificant issue.
I agree 100%
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I agree 100%
I agree 50%. You cannot say that Riot is to sell cosmetics out of the wazzu like this. Not when they have:
I think a free icon won't hurt. I really like icons but not enough to spend over $2 for it. Its like buying a cool pin but only digital. If I wanted to, I could just save the money for a skin on sale (which costs about $4 at the least).
SmokedAlmonds2 votesI agree 50%. You cannot say that Riot is to sell cosmetics out of the wazzu like this. Not when they have:
- The hundreds of skins (at least 2 for each champ right now and you cannot say this for new ones)
- They have the LCS
- They even sell other icons and ward skins for money
- They sell merchandise now (posters, collectables, clothing, etc)
I think a free icon won't hurt. I really like icons but not enough to spend over $2 for it. Its like buying a cool pin but only digital. If I wanted to, I could just save the money for a skin on sale (which costs about $4 at the least).
Its not like giving icons out would bankrupt them but selling them is a part of the model that allows the game to be free.
If people are willing to buy them then is it reasonable to ask them to give it away for free?
Plop The Druid1 votesIt is so they can make money, I understand getting rid of excess IP. If you already own every champ why not get every runepage and rune? that will help a Ton more going into game and your win rates.
Rew7111 votes(Wins more games... Gains twice the IP... goes to store waiting for another champ)
Yeah, I'd rather this argument just not happen.
HentRex1 votesI wouldn't mind everything having an IP cost. Just add 00 to the end of each number. Skin costs 975RP ok then 97500 IP, Sales do NOT reduce the IP cost. I also believe Runes should be free and changeable in lobby. So then you're not using ip on them. I mean honestly this would equate to about one skin every 2 months if you're a grinder a year if not? This is a bit of exaggeration, take it how you want to.
Plop The Druid1 votesRiot gives out free icons all the time, but that isn't the point at this second. Think about this in fast food terms, if i let you eat a nugget free while your working right. 1 nugget isn't anything but after 1 year the 1 nugget every day can build up to ~$1000 in sales missing. now imagine that on a scale where 1 person from 50 stores is doing it. Riot is a business and they have to make money. the more money they make the more you can receive back. Riot didn't make a game just so they don't make money. The more we give as a community the more they can give back. in season 2 champions were every like 4 months. now i see one every 1-2 months, skins are coming out more, as they grow we get more in return.
Rew7111 votesI understand your point, but LoL is a Free Game in itself that we can come to and play. That would mean that Fast Food companies to be even compared to League would need something they give to us that makes us want their added products. I think its just best to compare League to other Free MMOs rather than actual companies. Its not that I don't see your point but with everyone always saying "don't compare X to Y, because X was made this way and Y was made to do that". Right now, League only has one thing that makes me stay; the champions. If it wasn't for that, I would had left months to a year ago. I would had cared about the skins but they are more than what I would pay for, even the Ultimates. I would had cared about Ranked and then LCS but I got harassed too much (even by one of my friends who even to this day says I suck duo to my Bronze level, even though he knows and said I am easily Silver or Gold level material). I want all those champs. 43 are left. Once I get them all, I'm done with this game. It has a sour player base, isn't as fun as when I started 2 years ago when players were still coming in all with no toxicity, and its now almost impossible to get all of the champions within a year to 2 years. That's not fair to new players and honestly, if I wasn't so close as I said above, I'd just give up. I'm asking this because people do want to get rid of their extra IP and also help new players because Riot obviously does not care. All Riot's been showing me is skin, skin, icon, skin, new champ, skin, skin, skin, remodeled champ, skin, legendary skin, skin, merchandise, skin.
SmokedAlmonds1 votesI understand your point, but LoL is a Free Game in itself that we can come to and play. That would mean that Fast Food companies to be even compared to League would need something they give to us that makes us want their added products. I think its just best to compare League to other Free MMOs rather than actual companies. Its not that I don't see your point but with everyone always saying "don't compare X to Y, because X was made this way and Y was made to do that". Right now, League only has one thing that makes me stay; the champions. If it wasn't for that, I would had left months to a year ago. I would had cared about the skins but they are more than what I would pay for, even the Ultimates. I would had cared about Ranked and then LCS but I got harassed too much (even by one of my friends who even to this day says I suck duo to my Bronze level, even though he knows and said I am easily Silver or Gold level material). I want all those champs. 43 are left. Once I get them all, I'm done with this game. It has a sour player base, isn't as fun as when I started 2 years ago when players were still coming in all with no toxicity, and its now almost impossible to get all of the champions within a year to 2 years. That's not fair to new players and honestly, if I wasn't so close as I said above, I'd just give up. I'm asking this because people do want to get rid of their extra IP and also help new players because Riot obviously does not care. All Riot's been showing me is skin, skin, icon, skin, new champ, skin, skin, skin, remodeled champ, skin, legendary skin, skin, merchandise, skin.
How can you call it extra IP if you don't even have all the champions? And while saying having all the champions is a goal of yours.
I'm not really sure what to tell you about your feeling that riot doesn't care other than you are wrong. You see things like skin releases because that's what people want. Its also important to note that skins generate profit and are handled by their own department so at worst they have no impact on what else gets done, but in reality they pay for everything. You need to realize that there are millions of people who play this game and just because they are doing something that isn't tailored to you doesn't mean they don't care.
I don't understand how people can say riot doesn't care, yet continue to play. If I felt like riot didn't care I would be gone in a heartbeat.
Rew7111 votesSkins have their own department, that's understandable, but a icon?
You first need to understand, I'm talking about others when I don't actually say "I have-" in my statements. But I would like to have something to get rid of that IP when I do finish. Honestly, I can't believe you are trying to back up Riot in these decisions. I mean, spending $2 on a icon. I like having icons and these seem like a great way to get rid of at least 6000 IP. For a free to play game, I feel that Riot may be the first I've ever seem to make triple off their game (as kids will pay triple what they would for a regular game for the content) and well... A prime example is the latest Legendary Skin, and the added 4 with it. That's a good over $40 bucks for them all right now with the sale going on. Riot has made good decisions with the skins to make sure they don't lose money, and I think that's fine. However, I really won't care to leave after I get those champs. That's my goal at the moment. I'm exhausted most of my time, energy, patience, and the fun is now gone. I'd rather play Super Smash Bros, go on a adventure in Fallout 4, or whatever now. Dude, I'd rather study than play this game, its gotten that bad. With no enjoyable matches, and no real reason to push forward (unless I want to grind to Diamond, but seriously, then what?) I'm done. They have 3 other fun modes I'd love for them to work on, Dominion, ARAM, and Twisted Treeline. Yet, now that its LC$, they aren't even going to balance a champ. Champs we know are going to be possibly unfair in the tournament; 
SmokedAlmonds1 votesSkins have their own department, that's understandable, but a icon?
You first need to understand, I'm talking about others when I don't actually say "I have-" in my statements. But I would like to have something to get rid of that IP when I do finish. Honestly, I can't believe you are trying to back up Riot in these decisions. I mean, spending $2 on a icon. I like having icons and these seem like a great way to get rid of at least 6000 IP. For a free to play game, I feel that Riot may be the first I've ever seem to make triple off their game (as kids will pay triple what they would for a regular game for the content) and well... A prime example is the latest Legendary Skin, and the added 4 with it. That's a good over $40 bucks for them all right now with the sale going on. Riot has made good decisions with the skins to make sure they don't lose money, and I think that's fine. However, I really won't care to leave after I get those champs. That's my goal at the moment. I'm exhausted most of my time, energy, patience, and the fun is now gone. I'd rather play Super Smash Bros, go on a adventure in Fallout 4, or whatever now. Dude, I'd rather study than play this game, its gotten that bad. With no enjoyable matches, and no real reason to push forward (unless I want to grind to Diamond, but seriously, then what?) I'm done. They have 3 other fun modes I'd love for them to work on, Dominion, ARAM, and Twisted Treeline. Yet, now that its LC$, they aren't even going to balance a champ. Champs we know are going to be possibly unfair in the tournament;
I mean, sure. Id love everything to be free. But its a ridiculous request. Why would they give you something for free that people line up to pay for? It just doesn't make any sense.
If you don't like the game anymore then don't play. A free icon isn't going to change that anyway.
And this is coming from someone with all the champions, 20 rune pages, and almost 100k IP left over.
Rabid Husky1 votesi think they should make icons give banners like ultimate champ icons since unless we got spare cash its 5 bucks for 2 icons
Niyumi1 votesI can tell you exactly why, in exactly three characters: F, 2 and P.
When you have an F2P game, your income comes from nickel and diming people into infinity. You don't get money from people playing and enjoying your game, and you don't really care how long they play so long as they throw money at you. League is an F2P game, and as such, they don't make money anywhere but from the cash shop. Whenever something pretty comes out, they'll make you pay through the nose for it (you can grind for champs, but if they didn't let you do that, the game would be P2W), or make it so unbearable to grind for that you'll just HAVE to spend money to get it.
There's a reason I typically avoid F2P games like the plague. >.> It's a horrible business practice, and it's all a great big scam.
So, these new icons, they spent money to make them and all that. They won't just give them away for free, no, they're going to make you pay for it. Now, if this were a P2P game, you'd get them for free, but not in an F2P game, sadly.