Dyanamic Queue (The Ranked One), Didn't need to exist in the first place

Guy Fox Teemo··1 votes·300 views

The Idea of ranked to me is how well you stack up against everyone, how far you can climb on your own, to truly show how good you are the game. Dynamic Queue kinda of just side steps that, while generally according to Riots Statistics you will most likely only play 2-5% of your games with like lets say a 4-man pre-made, so the argument that those games lead to a huge disappointing experience for ranked is blown a little out of proportion.

BUT, for the players that use the Dynamic Queue system, and are mixed in with Solo Queue players, it kind of screws up the ranked Latter, as a Player who exclusively plays with 5 man pre-mades, who is Diamond, is not on the same Skill level as a player who exclusively players Solo and is Diamond as well. As there is a HUGE difference between coordinated team play and Solo Queue play (As seen on the LCS).

This is why Dynamic Queue shouldn't have been made in the first place, you already had normals for that, the only advantage to it was that people who Queue with 2,3, or 4 people, now can play in a more competitive Environment, which to me isn't really needed, as when I play with my friends, I do it more for the fun aspect of just casually playing and having a conversation while playing a couple of normals. Ranked provides a more stressful environment, and if you wanted to play seriously with friends you would generally do that with a 5-man pre-made in Team Ranked.

Dynamic Queue (Ranked Version) is catering towards the more casually audience of League, which for the most part makes up a large portion of the League Of Legends Community, but thats not what the Ranked experience is about, its not meant to be casual, its meant to be where players can show there true skill level, on how they stack up against everyone else, in an ever changing environment (Different Teams Every Game).

Its a bit to late for Riot to back pedal on Dynamic Queue, its been out far to long and has been in development for far to long to ever be removed. Which in my opinion it Should be removed, but the players who queue up with there friends and play it currently it would be a big Fk you to them. Its a big Fk you to either audience, which is honestly ALL Riots fault for ever coming up with the Idea of Dynamic Queue.

Dynamic Queue was a big mistake on Riots end, that in the long term they decided they were going to cater to the more casual audience of League Of Legends then the Competitive Audience, which both could have co-existed (Normals and Solo Queue), but Riot Fucked up.

NOTE: To Clarify when I refer to Dynamic Queue I refer to the Ranked version in which you queue up with friends not the one in normals draft and such.

8 Comments

Stephenizgod2 votes

Well actually regardless of whether you prefer Solo or Dynamic, there is one thing everyone needs to understand: League is a Team-Based game.

Ranked is not "how well can you carry 4 other people" it is suppose to be "how well can you perform as a team". Everyone has a very very warped view of what Rank means, they are wrong, it is not how well you personally perform by yourself. This game was meant to be played as a team and Dynamic Queue is an attempt to step the game in that direction, something Riot has wanted for awhile it seems. Unfortunately since the game has been Solo Queue for so long, it is really screwing up Dynamic Queue for both the Solo Queue people and the Dynamic Queue people.

Dynamic Queue is how the game was originally meant to be played, and despite the fact that Dynamic Queue is currently not working as intended, it is a step in the right direction.

Guy Fox Teemo3 votes

The team argument is REALLY Hard to use, because your aren't a team, you are 4 random players, people on COD players team death match Aren't a team, you cannot squish 5 people together and expect them to be a team. A team requires coordination and good communication, which is next to nearly impossible to acheive in a Solo Queue environment, so yes, its how well you can play with 4 others and carry you team.

The idea may be a team game, but in the end you as a player will have to put in more effort to win the game, because you Cannot expect your team to win it for you. That just isn't how it works.

And if Dynamic Queue is how the game is intended to play, thats kinda a REALLY big fuck you to anyone who plays Solo, like a really big F**k you, if they implemented this idea 7 yrs ago when the game was made, maybe. You cannot expect 67 million players to all have friends, and expect them to only play with friends. Thats idiotic, which is what Riot seems to be doing, if you dont have friends to play with, well fuck you go play another game.

Basically its LoL has been a game for far to long to all of a sudden go "Well fuck you Solo Players make friends or leave", you can put a team label on the game, but in the end there is no true "Team Game" in league of legends, thats LCS, which is a completely different game from what 99% of people play.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Well that is my point, that's why Dynamic Queue was implemented, to push the game towards "Team Play" and away from "Solo Play".

Riot isn't telling you to go make friends or quit, the issue is Solo players just feel more of a struggle since they are against and with very coordinated teams, they sort of feel left out. The thing is, it goes the other way too, Premades trying to deal with a Solo player who is refusing to cooperate. The biggest issue is that Solos and Premades are quite toxic towards one another for literally no reason, I play Solo and with friends so in my opinion they are both equally toxic towards the other. The game is as fun as you make it, if you hate playing with or against premades, than that is on you not Riot. If you legitimately think Solo Queue is better for League than Dynamic Queue, than that is a good discussion topic because I would like to know why.

This is just a case of what Riot wants vs what the players want, Riot wants their game to be more team oriented in order to create a more engaging environment for better plays. The community wants to be able to climb purely through their ability to carry 4 other people and don't think its fair to face against premades. Both are valid points to be honest, I can understand how someone who got to Diamond by themselves doesn't like that someone can get to Diamond only by playing with friends.

Personally, I like Dynamic Queue because I like to play with my friends. I actually perform better when playing with friends because I am able to play different playstyles knowing that my friends will be able to back me up. It's also more fun to make coordinated plays with my friends, things I can't do in Solo Queue because I am not 100% sure whether my teammates will follow. I don't need to worry about taking objectives since I know my friends will help out. This season is probably my least favorite overall, because of the rampant snowballing and the current messy state of Ranks with people being carried and whatnot, however I am really enjoying playing with my friends.

Guy Fox Teemo2 votes

Go play normals then if you want to play with friends?

Stephenizgod1 votes

Well again you misunderstood me, I do play Normals with friends when I am just in it for the fun or when I am practicing something new.

When I play Ranked with friends, its because I want to win and I want to increase the chances of winning. I am able to play better, I can make better calls and plays with friends because I don't need to consider the skill level of my teammates. I also don't need to worry so much about the lanes my friends are playing. The fun is just a by-product of playing better, making better plays, and winning (which unfortunately we have not been doing lately). For me, playing with friends really improves my gameplay because I am a coop type of person, I just do better and i have better focus when playing with friends. So that is why I prefer it over Solo Queue, because me and my friends are not abusing it to carry each other.

Live2LetDie1 votes

Just pointing out League started out with Dynamic Q then said FU to those players and went solo for 4 seasons and now went back.

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

League didn't have 67 Million players back then.

Live2LetDie1 votes

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League didn't have 67 Million players back then.

Agreed but they still did a 180 on the loyal early fans.

In regards to your post. I think the stats show low elo players are still stuck in low elo. Diamond 5 is top 1% still with around 18k players. That was the same as last season.

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