if i say "pref not jg or supp", one thing i don't wanna hear is learn how to play them noob, i definitely wont do it just because you're a douche. i know how to play them. i just dont prefer them.
I always say prefer mid/adc/jg, rather than prefer not top/support.
I think the way I say it implies more that I main 3 roles but will fill the other roles if necessary - I'm being flexible and trying to help the team by showing my strengths.
I think you're trying to come across the same way, but people take it as you saying you're weak in those 2 roles rather than strong in the other 3. So now they think you're trying to selfishly avoid roles you don't like rather than trying to identify your strengths. It's probably made much worse by the fact that support is the least popular role by far, and due to jungle changes there are probably a sizeable group of people avoiding the jungle. So you're basically telling your team you don't want to play either of the two least wanted roles - something which several of your teammates who have earlier picks probably feel the same about.
I guess I'm just saying "there's a nice way to say things", try using a positive phrase "prefer top/mid/adc" and see if you get better reactions.
The trick is: you have to make people feel bad about being dicks. It doesn't work all the time, but if you aggressively set the mood of the team in a positive direction early, people are less likely to be standoffish or mean, both in Champion Select and in-game. Because then, it's really obvious that they're the douche, not you. Some people are going to do it anyway, but it'll prevent a solid chunk.
You can try what I do. Here's my first three lines upon entering any ranked game:
Hyrum Graff: Good evening, everybody. Hyrum Graff: My prefs are mid/supp > top > adc Hyrum Graff: Anybody a good jungler/adc?
The first line sets the tone for the match. The second sets a precedent of giving more than one pref. The 3rd gets people thinking about the fact that they may be good at a role I'm bad at, and sets me up so I don't have to play a role I won't be able to carry from. In ~200 ranked games last season, I only had to play jungle once, because of this, and I've never had someone say "Learn 2 jungle, noob," to me.
There's a good way of calling out preferred positions and then there's your way. Nothing wrong with it persay, but it generally gives off an impression that you can't play those roles despite that not being the literal meaning. It's like saying "I would prefer to go to McD, Subway or Taco Bell" vs "I would prefer not going to Starbucks or Carls Jr."
If I only had 5 of these options, both sentences state the same thing. "I would rather go to McD, Subway or Taco Bell than Starbucks ir Carls Jr. but I don't mind either way" but the implications vary between both sentences.
The first implies you like these 3 but wouldn't mind the other two. The second implies you don't like these two and would like to go for the other three.
Of course, I might just be getting too into this and I'm not an English major or anything but that's just what I feel.
I always say mid please. Seems to work most of the time.
when some guy says something like "you guys kind of suck" and i say "that's not very nice" and they say "yes but it's true" what on EARTH is going through their minds when they say that??
