Over a thousand games in silver, and never amounted to anything. Now, with the new season, I placed bronze 3, and I'm not climbing or dropping, despite gaining over 30 LP a win -- so I can't even win in fucking bronze.
I just want to stop losing my games, but I don't know what I can even do.
Voidner2 votesWatch some videos on youtube about climbing they are really helpful
TonsOfGains1 votesWell for one, not climbing/dropping despite thousands of games played means that you're probably where you belong, given your skill level. There are a few quick fixes that can boost bronze players a couple divisions:
Always keep a positive attitude. There are statistics that support a correlation between positive win rate and positive mindset. There are also psychological and neurological phenomena behind this, which I can elaborate on. Most importantly, take a break after losing.
Don't get killed. You can consistently achieve a low death count in most of your games by playing safe. This means don't take risks. Some examples are chasing enemies, engaging fights that you're not certain you can win, diving, over-extending, etc.
Map awareness. Generally what I tell players is to do a head count on the minimap every 5 or so seconds. Look at the minimap, identify where everyone is and who you're seeing. Doing this every 5 seconds will help with all sorts of little things. Maybe your ally is being chased up the river and you can help. Maybe one of your teammates forgot to call MIA. Maybe everyone is mid so it's your opportunity to push the lane.
I see that you have an account on replay.gg which makes it a lot easier to help you. If you need more help I could look at some of your replays at some point, although point number 2 probably hits home most games.
Niyumi1 votesOkay, now what if I carry 9/10 games (although, lately, I can't even do anything with the enemy team so fed), win lane, get FB (so the enemy team can't), splitpush, roam, all that, yet still lose? Is it my fault then, or the fact that the game matches me with morons?
I fail miserably at that. I have mental issues (severe, severe, severe anxiety and depression, along with other things of that nature) to begin with, and League is just infuriating. >.> How can I not get upset about things like Yi clicking on me and instantly exploding?
I die very rarely, even when the rest of my team is feeding to all hell and the entire enemy team can instantly kill me. I know when to trade, engage, dive, all that, and I only die if I do something stupid or just miscalculate things (Usually, less than 5 deaths a game).
I do look at the map as often as I can, and I do catch a lot of things, but occasionally I do let something slip. Though, 9/10 times, I spot it on the map. :P
I actually don't have an account on replay.gg, though I could probably set one up. Would be nice for higher ELO people to look at what I'm doing and give advice.
Kaptain KS1 votesI went 9-1 in my provisionals, I got bronze 3. Played 2 games, got to my promos, won 3/3, went to bronze 1. Season ended....I deserve at least silver...and I will get gold. Positive attitude.
TonsOfGains1 votesSo I went over half of a replay where you lost as Graves, going 5/3/1. I tried to pick a loss where you didn't do too terrible in terms of score. Just going to list things in chronological order, analyzing each event.
Early on there was a point where you flashed to get closer to Twitch, presumably to kill him since he was low. Problem is Nautilus was in your way, at full health, and you were very low as well. Even if you did get the kill, which you didn't, you would've died and trades are not profit. You ended up dying with no gain. These are the kind of risks that you need to stop taking in order to consistently perform better. Your support also decided to engage with you on that, at low health, resulting in a double.
You pushed all the way past the river. Having a ward does not mean you can over-extend. Unless you can conclude that it's safe to push by doing the minimap check, do not go past half your lane. The extending resulted in your support dying to save you. Against better players it could've easily been a double.
Despite being low, you tried to engage because your support managed to get on top of Twitch. You left the safety of your turret so Nautilus grabs you and nearly kills you. If he didn't flash for the grab, he could've easily flashed to last hit you for the kill. Just because your support or teammates make a stupid decision, doesn't mean you need to follow through and die pointlessly.
Xin Zhao ganks bot and nearly kills a lone Nautilus. Both you and Braum were nearly full health but recalled at tower instead of helping. Watching the minimap would've helped you to cash in on this opportunity, landing a kill and 2 assists.
Again Xin Zhao ganks and kills Twitch, then almost Nautilus in a 1v2. Braum sees the opportunity and engages, but does not manage to save Xin. You should've seen the opportunity and came in for 2 kills as well as preventing a death.
All of these negative events can be avoided by point 2 and 3. If you can't maintain a positive attitude, it will simply be very difficult to climb ladder. Mentality plays a very large part.
Niyumi1 votesI was flashing to kill him, since I had my Q up. But, I flashed and my Q wouldn't even fire, so I ended up dying. Had it actually fired when I pushed Q, I would have been able to kill Twitch and E away from Naut before he got me. Maybe flash interferes with Graves' Q, I donno. Not the best idea, yeah.
I was watching the map to see where their jungle was. I would really only push hard if I saw him top or mid or something and not heading bot. If I saw him coming bot, I'd usually back off or get ready to back off (where Braum died, I saw him coming a while before, but he didn't).'
4 + 5. Yeah, I tend to not look at the mini map while backing, since I'm looking through the shop and whatnot. Maybe it'd be a good idea to start watching the map at all times, instead of just when I feel like it's important to.
TonsOfGains1 votesYour Q was actually out of range of Twitch as well as Nautilus' grab and AoE making your dash pointless. Let's pretend your Q magically gained double its range so you could hit Twitch and Nautilus was brain dead for a few seconds, it was still risky and risky is bad.
You were pushing despite him not showing up on the minimap for over a minute. This is solo queue, if your support dies because of a decision that you made (pushing), that's on you. Carrying doesn't just mean having a pretty score. It also means doing what you can to circumvent your teammates' inadequacy. EDIT: I also want to add that regardless of whether or not you guys turned around when he showed up on the minimap, it was already too late. Nautilus would've caught one of you with the hook and that's game over for whoever get's caught.
Niyumi1 votesMy Q can go from one side of the lane (near the turret) to the other. So, it was in range, but the angle may have been a bit off. The Nautilus wasn't too hard to dodge, and he was kind of predictable, so I think I could get away with him. But, yeah, risky is usually bad. : / Is there any scenario when risky is acceptable? 'cause that's usually how I play. xD
Well, I was keeping track of him as best I could. I saw him go into the jungle, and knew he'd clear the camps on the way, or I'd see him at low health and I'd know he would back, so on. You are right that I shouldn't expect people to know what I'm doing in soloq though. So, would being more communicative help, or should I just play like people would expect me to?
And, about circumventing my teammates' inadequacy, what do you mean by that?
TonsOfGains1 votesMaybe one day you'll be pro/challenger and understand every champion, matchup, and scenario like the back of your hand, so that everything is mostly calculated and there is little to no risk. So short answer is no, never take big risks, ever. To win consistently, you need to minimize your errors. Taking risks increases potential errors.
Something that helps a lot is using pings. The moment you saw him, you should've pinged your support to back faster. Generally though, the reason why you would've gotten caught regardless is because you over-extended. The general guideline of "half your lane" is due to the fact that the distance from half your lane to your turret is far enough for any 3 champions to kill any 1 champion, or at least burn flash which is still a loss.
Circumventing your teammates' inadequacy. In other words, prevent their mistakes when you can. Braum made a dumb choice by continuing to push, but you could've prevented that by not pushing in the first place. Xin made a dumb choice by engaging 1v2, but it was in your power to make it 3v2. Just two examples from that game specifically. There are a plethora of scenarios where you can "un-bad-ify" your teammates decisions.
tseihei1 votes
- Maybe one day you'll be pro/challenger and understand every champion, match up, and scenario like the back of your hand, so that everything is mostly calculated and there is little to no risk. So short answer is no, never take big risks, ever. To win consistently, you need to minimize your errors. Taking risks increases potential errors.
I would have to disagree though. If you are always a coward you will never make any mistakes to improve on. If you are playing a new champion, be a man and go all out at various levels. This is how you learn your strong and weak points. After all, the first person to learn that akali was strong at lvl 6 would never have learned it. The rest of the community would have just stayed a coward through the entire lane because her lvl 1-5 is weak, and would just have assumed she was weak through all levels.
TonsOfGains1 votesExperiment and push your limits in normals, so that you're not expending 50 league points to learn a champ... [zombie-brand-facepalm]
Guy Fox Teemo1 votesif you have a thousand games it and your still not climbing its probably due to, something you need to improve on. Try to focus on your mistakes and see what your doing wrong. Are you cs'ing well? warding? good lane trades? Positioning in fights? Do you know your match ups well?
Really look into what your doing wrong and improve it, and I'll gurantee you'll climb ^-^
Niyumi1 votesI usually have the highest CS in the game, unless I'm doing a lot of trading / killing / roaming / etc.
I ward when I can, since these new trinkets are crap.
I can usually trade well in lane, unless it's some absurd champion that just instantly kills me.
I mean, I usually position myself so that I have an escape, and try to keep someone tanky between me and them.
I know all the champs and what they do, and can reliably pick champs that can beat them (except Yorick, I have no idea what beats him, same with LB).