Dear Riot, I Think Your Placements This Season Are Disheartening People.

Stephenizgod·1/24/2015, 6:10:55 AM·29 votes·3,855 views

EDIT: So here is this really awesome post about how they are doing the placements this season: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Llp9xElp-the-placement-answers?

Hmm so it seems like im getting a lot of teammates in ranked who are either not trying or incredibly agitated/angry.

My third provisionals, my third loss: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1706974567/206176227?tab=overview

18min i died the first time and at the time i had the most CS on my team by a lot, Kalista started to get a bit more around 15ish min. At this point Lucian was 9 and 1. It just seemed like our jungler and bot lane werent really even trying (our Leona was doing their best but to no avail). Mid and Bot turret fell before 12 min. Im honestly not QQing, I go into games expecting to lose but i try my hardest to win so that i feel more accomplished. Losing isnt even saddening for me, i dont care about these 10 games i want to get placed then Duo with my friend (we want to do our 10 games solo so we can get placed on our own skill rather then the fact we are a team). I already know ill be placed in Bronze so i wont be sad with the outcome, but i think a lot of people are very disheartened by this and tend to not try their hardest or are just not caring anymore, why should they care where their team gets placed when they were thrown from high silver-low gold to Bronze?

My First Game: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1704234504/206176227?tab=overview. This one was sad, we couldnt pull together as a team despite our Amumu trying his hardest to turn a disadvantageous stomp into a close win. He almost succeeded but our team was not cooperating at all.
My Second Game: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1704781368/206176227?tab=overview. I won my lane but my bot lane lost theirs. It also seemed like they werent even trying :(. I feel worst for our Lissandra, he was really good with his mechanics and im sad i couldnt help him carry.

Anyone else noticing this? Im not talking about bad teammates, im talking about teammates who literally look like they do not care or are just not trying.

Provisionals Update

Currently at 2 wins 3 losses, the two that i won was full of great teamwork and mostly positive comments. Teamwork is the only reliable way to win a game :D

At 3 and 3 right now :D only 4 more to go.

52 Comments

TSM PrimalDragon1/24/2015, 6:22:04 AM5 votes

i can agree i went 8-2 in provisionals got silver 3 while my duo partner who was the same rank as me last season got gold 2 which made me salty but since those first 10 matches all my games have been with people who even for silver level make my head spin i just dont get it this season

UnspokenVerse1/24/2015, 11:25:34 PM3 votes

I havnt had any problems with the new placements was gold 1 last season at the end did promos went 5-5 was still gold 1 to me it seems to go more off mmr then the actual win/lose ratio on another account (fresh) got silver 2 if you got significantly lower then your previous rank you probably barley stayed in that rank in the first place if you want sauce i play on lan -Shake Dat Ashe -ThatsABigNunu

XenoHD1/24/2015, 10:22:34 AM2 votes

I was pretty happy with my placements, I was Gold 3 preseason then after going 8-2 I was placed Gold I, I'm now Plat. I think the placements are fair.

rapturjesus1/24/2015, 2:47:48 PM2 votes

I got Gold last season and improved quite a bit since then. I started out in Silver IV last season and thats what Im starting this season. So why am I now back to square one even though I know Ive improved? The matches I played in gold (granted once I got gold I stopped playing ranked for the majority of the season) were all easy wins for me. I think I played around 8 and won 6. The two losses were because people intentionally fed on my team lol. So I had a 75% winrate in gold V. Yet I get just people who dont give a single fuck in my promos and I get 4 wins. People with over 20 deaths, junglers who dont smite baron/dragon, ragers, and a whoooooole lot of people who just had not yet grasped the concept of pushing towers and objectives.

I feel like thats a pretty normal ranked experience as well. Which is bad. Other systems need to be implemented so that whichever team has the worst player doesnt automatically lose every time. Thats just something Ive noticed. 4 out of 5 people could go 5-0-0 in lane or something similar, yet still have no chance because swaglord swain support died 10 times before minions even spawned.

Bresn1/24/2015, 5:48:39 PM2 votes

Can't tell if this is a soft reset, or a hard reset, or even What-The-Hell-RNG-TIme

SleepyLionCub1/24/2015, 5:49:40 PM2 votes

I was gold 5 last season. Ended 6/4 in my provisionals. Got placed silver 1. So im not really that upset :/

Stephenizgod1/24/2015, 9:47:00 PM2 votes

YES!! Won another game! I have to say my teams performance was just spectacular! We had control over Dragon the entire game with both defensive and offensive warding around it and in their jungle. The only lane to actually lose was Akali's but not only did he come back, he was also being camped by Lee Sin which ended up costing them because Challenger Garen Top (haha i wish) was teaching Yorick a thing or two about justice! Meanwhile our bot lane was pulling some of the most coordinated plays ive ever seen from two solo laners lol.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1707527051/206176227?tab=stats It was fun, the enemy team put up a valiant fight but with Hec's engages, my Silence + spin-to-win, Nami's epic freakin bubblez, and Akali and Cait just laying down the damage it was too much. Also i did second most damage on team ;D

iM Uranium1/24/2015, 6:24:51 AM2 votes

Yup been there, i am 0-3 so far. I literally had a team that fed so hard. I did well in beginning as syndra against an ahri. Problem was the other lanes fed early i try to help but it was too much at a point and they just steam rolled in. I understand here and there but the game before than. DC all game, came back toward in and he fed of course since so far behind. I do what I can to try and not rage, but hell...you can only take so much of this garbage.

Papi DDS1/24/2015, 7:29:13 PM2 votes

Last season I stooped playing ranked for 6 months and maintained gold. During December i ranked like crazy and got my mmr to 1850~ during preseason getting into plat promos many times and only playing with plat people. After promos I won a fair amount of games and got placed into plat 3. I think preseason might have a big effect? IDK how I got into plat 3..when my mmr was plat 5 or 4

UnspokenVerse1/24/2015, 11:25:51 PM2 votes

I havnt had any problems with the new placements was gold 1 last season at the end did promos went 5-5 was still gold 1 to me it seems to go more off mmr then the actual win/lose ratio on another account (fresh) got silver 2 if you got significantly lower then your previous rank you probably barley stayed in that rank in the first place if you want sauce i play on lan -Shake Dat Ashe -ThatsABigNunu

clearlove439661/24/2015, 9:18:20 AM1 votes

Roit really sucks. they doesnt care peoples feeling. I had a game our bot lose a 2v1 to enemy grave while their mid was afking, and our top cho fed enemy wukong 5 kills within 10 minutes. afk and feeders are always in my team. No matter how good i plat i cant carry a team with so many noobs and feeders and afks.

Sammystorm1/24/2015, 10:20:31 PM1 votes

Start of the season is really bad. I think a rework for how placements of returning ranked players work is needed.

Stephenizgod1/24/2015, 7:12:25 AM1 votes

Yay i finally won a game! It was fun too, both teams were good, while our Fizz may have been MVP the rest of my team was just awesome. TEAMWORK FTW!

shadecrapper1/26/2015, 3:55:44 AM1 votes

Was silver 3, then after going 4-6 in placements dropped to bronze 5. And the climb begins

MrBuffington1/24/2015, 11:35:22 PM1 votes

My recent ranked games (before the reset) have been marathons (40-50+ minutes). Only played three placement games so far but nothing really out of the ordinary; first game we got stomped, second game we stomped them, third game we won but felt much closer (turns out we had a gold lead for much of the game, but fights were pretty chaotic and people getting caught out, you know, solo-q stuff), but no troll picks or anything like that, my teammates seem to be pretty good (morale was kind of low that first game since we got rolled pretty bad); can't say much for what the other team's morale was like (post game chat seemed to have some evidence of a touch of toxicity, but nothing out of the ordinary, no intense flaming or anything). All three games lasted 30+ minutes, the third going 40+, so not like "surrender at 20" stuff or anything. I almost threw the third game (I thought we could get a pick but I ended up getting caught out) but I survived long enough and burnt enough cooldowns for my team to clean up (1 for 5 and we ended off that) :P

Judging from the MMR of my games I'm probably going to place high bronze if I go even in placements; I dug my way out last season though, hopefully the climb this time around will be easier, since I definitely feel improved from where I was at the start of last year :)

Your Cheerleader1/25/2015, 2:08:45 AM1 votes

i hated these placements its like im putting my ranking in others hands cause when they feed i suffer no matter how hard i try

LittleBlast1/25/2015, 4:13:09 AM1 votes

I went 6-4 i believe, not at computer to check, but that dropped me from s1 to b1... honestly its kinda irritating...

What Is Smite1/25/2015, 7:01:00 AM1 votes

Inb4 you realize that your LP gain right now is somewhere between 20-30 per game maybe more

AxlStream1/24/2015, 6:18:13 PM1 votes

Was like that for season 3, was like that for season 4, will be like that for season 5. If you go down, tell yourself that you were good enough to hit the rank you had last season. You climbed there last season. You learned from it last season. You are BETTER than last season. Riot wants you to prove it. Climb that ladder and show Riot that your result last season wasn't just a fluke.

The Soulforged1/25/2015, 9:04:31 PM1 votes

I'm prolly gonna go back to silver...