Just wanted to apologize to my team for getting disconnected from my last game, everyone's electricity within a 2 hours of me went out for about 2 hours unexpectedly and there was not much I could do to stop it.
I hope you were still able to pull out a win since it was a 4v4 after I got disconnected.
And Riot thank you for the leavebuster warning even though this is the first game I haven't finished in about a year.
Eleshakai2 votesNice of you to apologize to them - it wasn't your fault.
Sadly Riot's system doesn't care about the reason you left a game, so I'm afraid this is going to be a mark against you in their eyes - hopefully no further problems happen or you may get punished over it.
Best wishes, I hope you don't get hit long-term by this.
Kazaashi1 votesNice of you to apologize to them - it wasn't your fault.
Sadly Riot's system doesn't care about the reason you left a game, so I'm afraid this is going to be a mark against you in their eyes - hopefully no further problems happen or you may get punished over it.
Best wishes, I hope you don't get hit long-term by this.
Unfortunately, there is practically no way for Riots servers to tell the difference between a Router dying and someone intentionally pulling a LAN cable.
It sucks that it has to be that way, but it will be evened out in the long run by a DC on the other team leading to you getting a free win at some point in the future. The same can be said for the other 4 people on your team.
Eleshakai1 votesUnfortunately, there is practically no way for Riots servers to tell the difference between a Router dying and someone intentionally pulling a LAN cable.
It sucks that it has to be that way, but it will be evened out in the long run by a DC on the other team leading to you getting a free win at some point in the future. The same can be said for the other 4 people on your team.
I disagree that it has to be that way. There are tells long term for people who intentionally disconnect - behavioural queues - that can be used. But Riot simply doesn't care. I personally feel that disconnects should ONLY be punished if they are obviously intentional... but Riot disagrees. This isn't the place for that discussion though. Simply put, Riot's stance on this HAS led to me no longer playing the game, and that's really all there is to say on that ;)
Kazaashi1 votesI disagree that it has to be that way. There are tells long term for people who intentionally disconnect - behavioural queues - that can be used. But Riot simply doesn't care. I personally feel that disconnects should ONLY be punished if they are obviously intentional... but Riot disagrees. This isn't the place for that discussion though. Simply put, Riot's stance on this HAS led to me no longer playing the game, and that's really all there is to say on that ;)
I don't think you understand how the internet and networks work. It is pretty much impossible for Riot to determine that a player disconnecting is intentional or not. People have crazy internet connections (which means they prolly shouldn't be playing, but that is another issue) that go up and down a lot.
It's not that Riot doesn't care, there is just no much they can do beyond installing network capture programs that monitor our internet activity.
Eleshakai1 votesI don't think you understand how the internet and networks work. It is pretty much impossible for Riot to determine that a player disconnecting is intentional or not. People have crazy internet connections (which means they prolly shouldn't be playing, but that is another issue) that go up and down a lot.
It's not that Riot doesn't care, there is just no much they can do beyond installing network capture programs that monitor our internet activity.
There's no way to determine definitively just from network statistics afterall, but long term people who disconnect intentionally tend to display certain behaviour surrounding the disconnect.
Ex. A person disconnects every time they're 0/5 out of laning phase but never elsewhise. You can say with a pretty safe bet that that's intentional. Or a person says 'f*** this' right before disconnecting every time and they never try to reconnect. etc.
I'd rather they let people go unpunished than punish people who have done nothing wrong. But that's the philosophical side of this. I don't CARE if they ever punish someone for disconnecting. A disconnect doesn't have a long-term negative impact on me... hell it barely even has a short-term negative impact. So I would personally rather they ONLY punish the obvious abuse cases and NEVER punish anyone else for it.
And since they feel it's worth punishing people for accidental/etc. simply because they feel false negatives are worse than false positives... I don't want to play their game. I can't ethically support it. I feel a false positive is the WORST thing possible for a punitive system. So 1000000000 false negatives are better than 1 false positive to me. Riot disagrees... they feel false negatives are worse than false positives in this system. And that's the ethical difference that has led to me not supporting them.
Kazaashi1 votesThere's no way to determine definitively just from network statistics afterall, but long term people who disconnect intentionally tend to display certain behaviour surrounding the disconnect.
Ex. A person disconnects every time they're 0/5 out of laning phase but never elsewhise. You can say with a pretty safe bet that that's intentional. Or a person says 'f*** this' right before disconnecting every time and they never try to reconnect. etc.
I'd rather they let people go unpunished than punish people who have done nothing wrong. But that's the philosophical side of this. I don't CARE if they ever punish someone for disconnecting. A disconnect doesn't have a long-term negative impact on me... hell it barely even has a short-term negative impact. So I would personally rather they ONLY punish the obvious abuse cases and NEVER punish anyone else for it.
And since they feel it's worth punishing people for accidental/etc. simply because they feel false negatives are worse than false positives... I don't want to play their game. I can't ethically support it. I feel a false positive is the WORST thing possible for a punitive system. So 1000000000 false negatives are better than 1 false positive to me. Riot disagrees... they feel false negatives are worse than false positives in this system. And that's the ethical difference that has led to me not supporting them.
Those people should be caught be the current report system. Maybe we, as players, need to be better about reporting people.
