Stop poking so much, you're in a minion wave
arcane shifts deeper into the wave and dies Bard?
What did you want me to do at level 1?
gets back into the lane and goes into an even bigger wave and dies Bard is such a terrible support wtf
I'm at the fountain and you ran past 3 health shrines.. wth
Yeap, totally Bard.
Illâoi Evê Siôn33 votesI hate it when they don't use my shrines, even though they're dying. They're probably used to getting healed and doing nothing themselves.
But worse is it, when they use your shrines uselessly. Like, they're full Health and they run over 3 shrines in lane. Or they run over all the shrines and then they go back. SHRINES LAST FOREVER YOU GREEDY IJEOEHJIUEHEZUE
So yeah ... uh .... Bard op.
Trash MammaI22 votesThis. X10000000000000000000000
I had a kalista who took 3 full shrines..Then went back and did't buy anything but boots. I wanted to claw my eyes out.
Then there's the fact I give every lane a shrine at the start of the game and they run over it "lol I didn't know what that does" facedesk or they'll completely ignore the fact it's even there and end up dying when the enemy lives with a sliver of hp.
Bard isn't the issue it's people not taking what he gives that's an issue.
ThePlasticSpork6 votesYeah, Bard's health shrines aren't the issue in terms of why most people have a problem with him.
It's the sheer possibility of miscommunication with his ult, or just the Bard player simply not being very good at using his ult in general, as well as giving the enemy team gapclosers when it's not convenient. No other champion in the game can screw over their teammates, either intentionally or on accident, as hard as Bard can.
TonyTonyMordecai3 votesI've messed up my ult sometimes, and I felt stupid. I just think people don't watch the champion spotlights for any of these characters... Seriously, I learned so much from watching those videos... Even though I already know about them from S@20 and Brofresco.
Trash MammaI1 votesThere's still people that don't even know what his health shrine is..
TonyTonyMordecai10 votes"what does this creeper think he's doing? SUPPORTING ME?! WTH IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE?!" "oh wth he put this glowy thing in the bush, must be a ward, no biggie" "wth why did you place your ward thing under our tower?" "wth where are you going? I still need you to help me with this cs!" Bard: "dude shut up, i need to get some chimes before the enemy ADC comes back" \BardLife
Rew7111 votesI remember 1 game where I was Soraka and someone else had Bard, so they had put 2 shrines up and in full bloom. The enemy ADC never went to get them. Bard had placed 2 down and the ADC never took them. In fact, while taking the turret, he still never took them; even at low health. I eventually stepped on them.
TonyTonyMordecai8 votesThere is only one healer in this game... AND ITS ME (follows up with stepping on health shrines)
Major Sparkles1 votesYou're right about screw up your own team with Bard, however, when he's played correctly he can definitely make LC$BIGPLAY$
NinjaFifer18 votesMan, do you guys have any idea how much this same idea was a problem when Thresh came out? No one had any idea how to use the Lantern.
Wydiwyg9 votesThis. Give people a while to adapt to that. Not everyone reads Surrender@20 like a religion and knows everything about a recently released champ from the get-go.
I'd be more concerned about the ADCs not letting a supp with Relic Shield last-hit a minion every now and then. Those are the more..difficult personalities. 
Trash MammaI5 votesEven if you don't read Surrender@20 there's a champion spotlight AND youtubers that show gameplay of a champion. That's 3 sources right there you have to get even a hint of the new champ (hell look him up during loading screen or in the champ select lobby) The way I see it is nobody has an excuse to not know at least what the champs kit involves.
Wydiwyg4 votesWhat about those that get the general idea ("Can spawn healing spots..") but not the specifics ("..that are best left to "grow" for a while")? The TLDR may be a little misleading in that regard, especially if all information has to be found, read and understood while in the loading screen.
Could you name all the details of every champ's kit, including passives, steroids and secondary effects? Not knowing everything about every champ is OK, especially since...:
Bard was released 3 days ago. Plenty of players haven't encountered him before and just logged into League to play a match or 2 after a stressful week full of work without following the pre-release articles on him. Not every player has the time and dedication to catch up to the latest patch-related meta-changes every time they want to enjoy a game.
Just stop being salty and explain it to your team. Takes about 5 seconds and makes things much easier for all of you.
mjack333 votesI never would of thought of 4. .... Wait oh yes I did.
Your team, 9 times out of 10, will ignore that. Same thing as when you tell them to upgrade their trinket. Goes in one ear and out some other orifice without ever being processed by the brain.
Ariel the Cruel16 votesPeople STILL have no idea what the lantern does.
If I had a meep for every time an ally flashed instead. :/
Sassmast3r1 votesAre you seriously telling me that people had no idea how to right click something that HAS A GREEN DOTTED LINE COMING OUT OF IT PROMPTING YOU TO CLICK IT?!
NinjaFifer1 votesBack on release, there wasn't a prompt. It was just a lantern that gave you a shield if you didn't know there was something else to it.
Sassmast3r1 votesOhh i see
Thefriendlyorc2 votesWhats worse is when they arent being pressured but wont let them charge up.
DUDE BRO2 votesI ALWAYS drop 3 shrines for the jungler at the start of game, always. 50% of the time either the jungler or the ADC just runs over all 3 before the first jungle camp spawns.
Welp, I hope he likes chugging those potions on his 2nd camp.
Hellish Prophecy2 votesI was playing as Amumu and went to defend bot lane. The enemy Nunu got too close and began to ult near me with me at 300 HP. Thankfully Bard has HEALTH SHRINES HE CAN FRIGGEN PLACE ALL OVER THE MAP and I walked away with 30 HP. I hate seeing so much Bard (that ult is annoying) but I love him at the same time.
OhOkYea3 voteswhy are you at the fountain at level 1
redniwediS10 votesHe was probably level 2 by then. Ez died, then Bard tries to hold lane while being poked by the enemy team, and backs. Ez charges back in while low health Bard is healing back at base.
Trash MammaI20 votesAnd this folks..is what you can do if you use that thing you have called a Brain
TonyTonyMordecai3 votesDude, I feel like my first two games with Bard got me competent ADC's who know how to not jump to death, but afterwards I get the superman jumpers who go head first into the minion wave AND Morgana AND Jinx... Seriously? Don't blame me, I'm playing as a new champion with this new concept called "babysitting not allowed". It's a hidden passive where I kind of have to GO OUT AND GET THOSE FREAKING CHIMES BECAUSE THEY MAKE MY MEEPS STRONGER, YA IDIOT. Sorry, I'm fine, I'm cool, I'm fine. The other problem is I'm trying to figure out which supports/adc's work well with/against Bard, that way I know when to be more careful.
Trash MammaI3 votesI know the feeling. They think just because a health shrine is near (WHICH THEY NEVER SEEM TO PICK UP WTF) they can do w/e they want. It gets annoying
OhOkYea4 votesI know the feeling. They think just because a health shrine is near (WHICH THEY NEVER SEEM TO PICK UP WTF) they can do w/e they want. It gets annoying
I've been coming across these in the lane as the enemy, and stepping on them to destroy them. What catches me is that while I'm destroying it, I'm wondering why the 50% hp ADC or jungler didn't use it when they were literally passing right by it as we chased them. It's not like it's hard to see.
Trash MammaI3 votesStory of my life. I have to spam pings for them to remember..
Spacesuit Spiff1 votesDude, I feel like my first two games with Bard got me competent ADC's who know how to not jump to death, but afterwards I get the superman jumpers who go head first into the minion wave AND Morgana AND Jinx... Seriously? Don't blame me, I'm playing as a new champion with this new concept called "babysitting not allowed". It's a hidden passive where I kind of have to GO OUT AND GET THOSE FREAKING CHIMES BECAUSE THEY MAKE MY MEEPS STRONGER, YA IDIOT. Sorry, I'm fine, I'm cool, I'm fine. The other problem is I'm trying to figure out which supports/adc's work well with/against Bard, that way I know when to be more careful.
When I start learning him, I'm probably gonna be super conservative with my roaming (basically only when we've bullied them out to start). I'm plat and ADCs still die while I'm warding and throw temper tantrums when I roam, Bard doesn't seem too fun unless you're playing with a friend.
Yeah, the divey adcs are painful. I remember a Vayne that tumbled into Braum level 1, tried to melee him to death, and then raged at me and intent fed all game. Botlane dynamics are weird in that a slightly better adc won't have a huge impact until later, but one that doesn't know some of the basics can just ruin the whole game (especially the ones that refuse to kill that last minion for level 2 when level 2 Thresh is walking towads us).
TonyTonyMordecai1 votesWoot woot, Thresh utility train, coming in! Yeah, I feel like I kind of was more reserved in my first two matches... Roaming at select times when it would be a while when the enemy duo would return... The thing is, when I'm Jinx, I normally play the harass role, or even going full ham if my support gets their snare/grab off, then I know I'm going to be able to get them easily... But as support... I can't do as much because I'm not as utility heavy or sustaining or disengage superior... And I can't do much when I barely have enough power to do anything, or not tanky enough to stay in the fight long enough. I feel like the ADC role is reliant on both players understanding of what to do in certain situations. Who do you think is a good ADC to pair with Bard? I've found that Kalista and Caitlyn work pretty well with him, given I was able to get 30/31 assists and ending even in k/d (6/6 then 4/4), but every match after that was very low on assists and very high in deaths... And which summoner spells do you usually take? I usually took ignite/flash because I already had a slow/stun and healing.
Kynami2 votesFrom my experience of mostly being a Sona player... any time he nips out to grab a chime or two I get to go unload a full AA+Q+AA on their ADC almost for free. Which is anywhere from a third to half of their HP in lane. Which of course requires Shrine heals to fix, which requires he either back or roam for more MP... which leads to me again, well you know.
Oh and, you're going to absolutely require jungler assistance versus something like Sona + Cait. Otherwise the moment you leave lane your ADC is going to get absolutely mauled (Cait dropping traps on your shrines is fun). Nami is also another bad one for Bard, and is my go-to pick for when Sona isn't available or isn't the best choice. Basically, sustain lanes with better poke are going to give you a hard time.
As for what works with Bard? You preferably want somebody with at least a dash to make dives a harder proposition and a semi-reasonable way to get ranged farm. Cait, Corki, Lucian, and Graves work well. Vayne is a very bad match, both you and her require scaling to become relevant and because of that you are likely to not make it out of lane phase intact. Kalista is something of a special case, you really can't afford to roam until she's gotten her first major item and T2 boots and thus gotten her power spike from her mobility passive. And then we get to Ez... sigh I swear he makes a better mid than ADC. You get a good one, you are probably fine roaming the moment he hits six. If you get a bad one? Your lane is probably "done" at champ select.
OhOkYea1 votesHe was probably level 2 by then. Ez died, then Bard tries to hold lane while being poked by the enemy team, and backs. Ez charges back in while low health Bard is healing back at base.
Even worse, why are you at the fountain at level 2
SecretAgentHulk5 votesProbably because
Ez died, then Bard tries to hold lane while being poked by the enemy team, and backs.
OhOkYea2 votesTonyTonyMordecai3 votesOr maybe you can't play as him?
OhOkYea1 votesOr maybe you can't play as him?
Idk. I decided not to buy him because his kit seemed uneventful.
TonyTonyMordecai5 votesJust like it usually is when all you have to do with Morgana is shoot the Russia sized snare blindly into the forest and you just kill someone for kicks and giggles, right?
OhOkYea1 votesJust like it usually is when all you have to do with Morgana is shoot the Russia sized snare blindly into the forest and you just kill someone for kicks and giggles, right?
Lmao yea basically. Q + W. R for emergencies or group fights. Simple but still fun.
TonyTonyMordecai3 votesYep. sounds pretty eventful to just faceroll your keyboard and suddenly get kills.
OhOkYea1 votesYep. sounds pretty eventful to just faceroll your keyboard and suddenly get kills.
Auto attacking doesn't actually require face rolling or a keyboard at all.
TonyTonyMordecai3 votesYep. Ok. Uh-huh, sure. Keep telling yourself that (^_^)b
SecretAgentHulk4 votesSo maybe you just actually have no clue what you're talking about, did I hear that right?
redniwediS8 votesReally? How did you miss the part where Bard was handling a lane 2v1? No support can do that so early in the game without giving up tower damage or taking a ton of damage themselves. Obviously in this case he chose to keep them off the tower, which worked seeing as how Bard did not die.
Ez charging in solo is the problem here. Why are you focusing on the support?
OhOkYea2 votesReally? How did you miss the part where Bard was handling a lane 2v1? No support can do that so early in the game without giving up tower damage or taking a ton of damage themselves. Obviously in this case he chose to keep them off the tower, which worked seeing as how Bard did not die.
Ez charging in solo is the problem here. Why are you focusing on the support?
I do all the time as support. Morgana can 2v1 bot lane all day.
Funny how all these bard players have been doing nothing but blaming the ADCs for their own failures. Not just on the forums, but in game as well. I understand. A lot of them spent money to be one of the first to start using bard. They need to justify how useless he is.
redniwediS9 votesYou're completely ignoring portions of my post in order to bash the brand new champion. The situation described by the OP isn't a problem with Bard, it's a problem everyone faces when they get an idiot for an ADC. Unless you feel like making a post that actually replies to my points instead of just skimming my post and making a reply that seems like it might fit I'm just going to bid you a good day and ignore any other replies.
OhOkYea3 votesYou're completely ignoring portions of my post in order to bash the brand new champion. The situation described by the OP isn't a problem with Bard, it's a problem everyone faces when they get an idiot for an ADC. Unless you feel like making a post that actually replies to my points instead of just skimming my post and making a reply that seems like it might fit I'm just going to bid you a good day and ignore any other replies.
Wow you are so mad. The OP was clearly focused around playing Bard. If they wanted to bash ADCs in general from a support's perspective, they could've done it in a more general way. You are the one trying to twist it into an anti-ADC issue when it's a Bard focused thread.
Your opinion is invalid anyway because you're a feeding troll in ranked.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1727565715/37300379?tab=overview
Jari9 votesWow you are so mad. The OP was clearly focused around playing Bard. If they wanted to bash ADCs in general from a support's perspective, they could've done it in a more general way. You are the one trying to twist it into an anti-ADC issue when it's a Bard focused thread.
Your opinion is invalid anyway because you're a feeding troll in ranked.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1727565715/37300379?tab=overview
First off, that's TT, who takes that seriously.
Secondly, it's not a bard issue. Bard can't stop his ADC from going in like an idiot unless he throws his ult on him, in which case nothing's being done anyways.
Trash MammaI5 votesOr maybe I had feeding trolls in ranked that caused me to do bad due to issues at champ select like EVERY ranked game? Match history means nothing if you don't know how the game started out
MrBuffington8 voteswhy are you at the fountain at level 1
You spawn there kappa
TonyTonyMordecai4 votesI thought you spawned 15 minutes into the game... At least, that's what the Barry champion spotlight told me.