Look guys, you have to choose.

Marshbouy··1 votes·414 views

You have to choose which you want. LCS diversity or balanced dynamicQ(normal ranked). You can't have both.

With LCS diversity(balancing around high skill play) champions like master yi will be considerably more powerful in low elo, but he will be viable in LCS. (only as an example. Don't rip my head off) It will be more "true balancing" since everything is played to a close to optimal level there and probably all champions will be viable in high elos. High skillcap champions will be nerfed to not be as oppressive and insane when mastered. Also a game balanced around high skill play will reward you for being highly skilled and it's a coinflip if an OP champ get's placed on your team, it's going to hinder you at about the same rate that it will help.

With dynamicQ balancing most champions will fluctuate at a 50% winrate but lcs diversity will be nonexistent. It also won't be "true balancing" and people who master high skillcap champions will climb with 60-65% winrates. (or more)

I'm asking this question becasue the community seems to want both. It is impossible to have both LCS and dynamicQ balancing, so if you had to choose, which would you pick and why?

27 Comments

Angry Monster2 votes

I am totally down for champs being balanced at pro play. It would get me net buffs for my pool. i am a voli, naut main, plus other unplayed champs. These champs would have to be have many of the nerfs that happened to them undone to be pro viable.

Although an argument of which lane they should be viable in would need to take place. Naut was a professional jungler until riot nerfed then a few seasons messed with the kit numbers.

Marshbouy1 votes

lol sensually strokes teemo yes yes, all part of the plan my sweet...

Angry Monster1 votes

sry temmo has been played once every season (not split) this last season TSM played him, he is competitive viable

/S

Marshbouy1 votes

lol

Astôlfo1 votes

Balance complaints from anyone below Master, maybe Diamond, are irrelevant, because they most likely just don't know enough to realize their complaint is idiotic. Riot said they never intended this game to be revolving around casual play. It's designed for professional play. Hence, just balancing around said Diamond/Master+/LCS level is fine.

Marshbouy1 votes

Exactly, but the community will shit itself if it is balanced around competitive.

Astôlfo1 votes

Okay? It already is balanced around competitive. The rest of the community doesn't get to make a valid complaint. Sure, some might quit. Most people still play anyways. And pro-play events will continue to bring in money.

Marshbouy1 votes

It's not really balanced around competitive... It's partially balanced around competitive (EG shen/azir nerfs) but not completely. if it was completely balanced or close to completely balanced around competitive then LCS diversity would be higher.

The rest of the community doesn't get to make a valid complaint.

lol true but that doesn't mean they won't spam "OMG RIVEN OP. OMG YI OP. OMG TRYNDAMERE OP" constantly.

Astôlfo1 votes

I meant, the way it is currently is fine. It's a good balance I think between pro-play and non-pro play. Like, I do get that some attention should be paid to the non-pros if only for as a business tactic to keep them appeased. But the focus should never ever be anywhere close to revolving around non-pro play. And professional game tournaments will never have huge diversity with this many characters.

And they can spam that all they want. No one cares about their opinion.

Marshbouy1 votes

I think they should have around 75% balancing around competitive so that super cancer champions like yi and teemo who don't have kits that fit in LCS aren't 70% winrates in dynamicQ, but right now lcs diversity is like 35/136 champions... that's not that great.

Astôlfo1 votes

I think that's okay. That's about a 25% pickrate of the roster. For 131 champions where there can only be 10 on a team anyways, the pros will always pick the most versatile (and usually, resultantly, the highest skillcap) champions or the ones that fit whatever is strongest in meta at the moment. And there always will be a meta, and there should. And high skill cap champs can be versatile, but are usually weaker in each individual thing they do than a specialist. But LCS level players can just push past that boundary anyways and use them to their fullest.

Marshbouy1 votes

I completely disagree but i realize that there is no chance that i could change your opinion on this. I'm tired af and i still have geometry homework to do so i'm just gonna agree to disagree.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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Exactly, but the community will shit itself if it is balanced around competitive.

they already balanced around pro play and people still play and they havent "shit themselves"

Marshbouy1 votes

Please tell me you are joking. Azir nerfs? Shen nerfs? Riven buffs? Brand buffs? Need i go on?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

{quoted}

Please tell me you are joking. Azir nerfs? Shen nerfs? Riven buffs? Brand buffs? Need i go on?

and they still do it for the PRO SCENE and do it regardless of screaming kicking and crying of the other 99%

lee buff, lissandra nerf not popular outside of KOREA/CHINA scene sivir nerfs * highly contested and one of the highest play rates of any adc in PRO* example after example of how they cater to the LCS/LKS PRO SCENE

the rest of us have to adjust

Marshbouy1 votes

the rest of us have to adjust

yes. but that does not mean the community does not shit itself. Does riot listen to the community? Most of the time no and for good reason, but the community still carries on screaming and kicking. A screaming and kicking community is not a healthy one. at least in my opinion.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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yes. but that does not mean the community does not shit itself. Does riot listen to the community? Most of the time no and for good reason, but the community still carries on screaming and kicking. A screaming and kicking community is not a healthy one. at least in my opinion.

ok answer me one question? where is riot making its $? from the $20 a month the average player spends or the MILLIONS from ads and sponsorships from the pro scene? last season worlds finals online had as many viewers as the NBA FINALS on NATIONAL BROADCAST TV. i wounder how much razor paid for an ad during the stream of worlds?

Marshbouy1 votes

dude. I'm not saying riot doesn't get anything from LCS, they get a lot, but those 20$ multiplied over 20 million players comes out to a lot of money

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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dude. I'm not saying riot doesn't get anything from LCS, they get a lot, but those 20$ multiplied over 20 million players comes out to a lot of money

30 second ad during worlds they might got $1.5 million? superbowl ads for 1min go as much as 10million

Marshbouy1 votes

cool? 20x20 mil is 400 million if im not mistaken.

dunkeroni1 votes

Riot has already stated that they choose high-level competitive play, at least in the short term.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/competitive/riot-pls-ranked-pls

Finally, while we’ve heard some comments suggesting otherwise, it’s never been a goal for us to make League more casual. We believe League is for hardcore gamers, and mistakenly believed we could offer real competition to all parties with the same experience. Our long-term vision is to be a global sport, and our goal remains the same: to offer competitive experiences for all players, from solo competition to focused, competitive teamplay. Many things are a further ways out, but that’s where we’re headed.

Marshbouy1 votes

I'm asking the community. Not riot.

dunkeroni1 votes

Oh okay.

I have a pole to make as well.

What color do you want the moon to be?

White Purple

Marshbouy1 votes

Personally i think purple is cooler. (*poll)

Quick question, are you saying that I can't ask a community if they would rather X then Y because of Z just because Y is already chosen?

dunkeroni1 votes

I'm saying that asking the community is an exercise in futility.

Marshbouy1 votes

i know. but it's still funny.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

just like all pro sports they make over 50% of their money on ad revenue and then the other chunk on merch and then the rest comes from "gate sales" "ticket sales" as for riot would be skins/champs

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