Normals feel more toxic than ranked

Dediguise·Oct 13, 2015·1 votes·443 views

So I got to gold V the other day and I decided I wanted to expand my champion pool before continuing to climb since I figure I probably don't have enough time to make it to plat. And in roughly 9 normal games I had at least 1 extremely toxic player in each game. The highlight was a "diamond" smurf adc that raged after I tp'd bot and killed the guy he was focusing on. Thing was I tp'd bot because he was 0/3 and then we took turret and dragon. He raged in all chat for the rest of the game and intentionally fed. In the end, despite his efforts to sabotage us, we won. The thing is we had a great game and the convo's with the enemy team were entertaining and fun for everyone(besides the adc).

So after dealing with all of that I jumped back into ranked... and after roughly the same number of games, I had only one toxic player.

Not sure if it's just me...

4 Comments

ToasteyOct 13, 20152 votes

they say gold is the best elo bracket to play in for a number of reasons. off the top of my head (and i say "everyone" as a general measure of the majority):

everyone is good enough to play at a decent mechanical level
everyone understands map objectives and the value of team play
everyone knows enough about the game to realise that they suck and have a lot to learn
everyone is willing to work together to make it to plat

the elos brackets go something like this: ---bronze is just a cesspool of bad players of all kinds ---silver is a bunch of guys who think they're hot shit for not being bronze, but also really angry that they're not in gold+ ---gold is as detailed above ---plat is a bunch of guys who think they're hot shit for not being in gold, but also really angry that they're not in diamond ---diamond is a bunch of guys who think they're hot shit for not being in plat, but also really angry that they're not in master ---master is a bunch of guys who are really good at the game and grinding for points to get to challenger ---challenger is a bunch of guys who make money from people watching them play the game

sealustOct 13, 20151 votes

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they say gold is the best elo bracket to play in for a number of reasons. off the top of my head (and i say "everyone" as a general measure of the majority):

everyone is good enough to play at a decent mechanical level

everyone understands map objectives and the value of team play

everyone knows enough about the game to realise that they suck and have a lot to learn

everyone is willing to work together to make it to plat

the elos brackets go something like this: ---bronze is just a cesspool of bad players of all kinds ---silver is a bunch of guys who think they're hot shit for not being bronze, but also really angry that they're not in gold+ ---gold is as detailed above ---plat is a bunch of guys who think they're hot shit for not being in gold, but also really angry that they're not in diamond ---diamond is a bunch of guys who think they're hot shit for not being in plat, but also really angry that they're not in master ---master is a bunch of guys who are really good at the game and grinding for points to get to challenger ---challenger is a bunch of guys who make money from people watching them play the game

...yeah that sounds about right. Not to say gold is"happy fun times, everyone is super nice!" but it's the better of the tiers I've been in so far.

ToasteyOct 13, 20151 votes

recently made it out of silver myself, i have to say gold is definitely living up to being...golden. hah. has a way lower incidence rate of toxicity + bad play. when either one crops up, it's usually just one or the other. rarely both.

DediguiseOct 13, 20151 votes

I would agree with that assessment for the most part. That being said silver is a lot more than that simply because it's possible to get to silver from placement matches. There are a ton of bronze players in silver. And there are at least as many smurfs. So the skill discrepancy in any given match is potentially ridiculous. This is what makes getting to gold such a challenge.

This created two very different concepts of "ELO" hell. In bronze it's just people on both team being stupid, making bad plays, being out of position. In silver it's the very real potential that someone on either team is going to get completely outplayed.

Foxdrop did a really good video on ELO hell. He defined it as being better than your team, but not good enough to carry them. And that could go anywhere from being only 1 tier better than them to being an entire division. And I think that's a fair description.

I don't think it exists in the way that players frequently post about, but it's easy to see that some players belong at a higher or lower rank than they are. I have friends in bronze that are better than many silver players I know. I guess my points is that Silvers have a reason to be upset. The way placement matches work completely undermines their ability to climb. At least if you place in bronze, you have a much lower chance of playing with smurfs. They are just replaced by trolls.

Gold seems better so far. I've consistently won before 28 min in. And when I am being camped or something like that, my teammates are taking objectives or being productive in someway. I've seen a lot less stomp sessions. More frequently we win or lose depending on team work, and thats a step up from silver for sure.