If you say nothing and I ban who you wanted to play I don't want to read you bitching in chat.
I ask what you want banned so I can ban problem champs for my team and so I don't ban out your pick. If you don't type anything your champ being banned is on you. You clearly know how to type. It is obvious because you keep whining. Next time, speak up and we can avoid the whining in the first place.
Me:"Hey guys, what do you want banned?"
no response
Me:"Is there anyone I shouldn't ban?"
still no response
bans Katarina
5th pick:"OMFG WHY DID YOU BAN KAT, ALSO I CANT SUPPORT,JUNGLE,TOP, OR ADC"
this shit is why I use teambuilder
NO! You should be able to read my mind, I should never have to call out my main, you should know it without me having to say a thing!
-Nasus is picked- Me: Nasus top? -silence- -silence- -silence- Me: -picks jungle Rammus- -Nasus switches to smite 3 seconds before the game loads- Nasus: im jungle
Gee Gee
Me: suggestions for bans? (team is unresponsive) Me: Guys? I think I'm gonna ban Vi (no response) (bans vi) 4th pick: You fucking retard I main Vi jungle and you fucking banned her? What the fuck is your problem? Me: Im actually gonna jungle this game... adc and support are still open though 4th pick: ADC AND SUPPORT?! Hah you must think this is some kind of joke. I dont even own any adc's or supports (someone game dodges, ending it)
As a 
main, I'm, never expecting anyone to ban Cho, but I've had it happen and I'm just speechless like "What?, why would you even?"
You should say "I'm banning Champions X,Y,Z". When they complain (WTF?? I wanted play Y!), it'll make them look even more stupid :]
Every time I say "don't ban Udyr", people say "lol who bans Udyr?"
Every time I don't say anything and intend to play Udyr, he gets banned.
Also, from experience, the best way to ask for champs to not be banned is:
"[insert role] pref, do NOT ban ________"
Note the "NOT" in capitals with everything else in lowercase. This is required. Some people don't speak English well, so a contraction like "don't" might not make sense to them. Some people simply don't pay attention and will say "oops I thought you said ban udyr lol"
if you have 2 champs you might pick based on the situation, the best way to call them is:
"[insert role] pref, do NOT ban ________, do NOT ban ________"
On the other hand, doing it THIS way is a sure way to get someone to ban one of your champs:
"[insert role] pref, do NOT ban ________ [and/or] ________"
Because they will say things like "I wanted you to use Udyr, not Fizz" or "You said to not ban one of them", and will basically pick your champion for you. Writing out "do NOT ban" twice, and using a comma (instead of "and" or "or") makes it VERY clear that if they ban one of them they are trolling you, and that you are asking for BOTH to not be banned, not just one of them.
And the fact that I was able to type out all this "advice" is just proof of how much solo queue and this community sucks, because I have literally experimented with how to fucking call my role and champs and know what works and what doesn't, and kept notes of various different copy/pastes and their effectiveness.
I main Viktor.
I think I'm safe.
Common sense is surprisingly uncommon.
i usually intentionally ban any 'please don't ban 'champion name' because reasons. also it's pretty nice to meet people who do the same, i met one recently
had a funny case yesterday, second pick asked 'please don't ban rengar', so i banned rengar and picked ahri, he said he was going mid together with me then and picked syndra, somebody dodged, i requeued and got into another team, asked them to ban rengar which they did, picked janna since i landed as the last pick, that guy was the first pick on the other team, still didn't get his rengar and they had a troll duomid who even fed a bit intentionally, so they got utterly stomped. he got what he deserved for calling the role, i went 1/1/20 and got 3 honors
I feel for OP, happens to everyone.
Yeah communication is lacking in general as is logic. Often we have 4 out of 5 people calling their roles and everyone is fine but the the 4th pick who didn't talk at all just picks something at random. We once got a garen top when mid and top were already picked (not just called but picked). And while I would generally say pick>call order it's not the case if someone doesn't call it until it's his turn to pick. I fucking loathe people who go afk in champ select.
One funny thing I remember though is one of my first ranked matches. I am a Mordekaiser one trick pony since release so I really wanted to play Morde. I wasn't worried about it as he never was popular. First pick asks for banns. Team gives him like 5 possible banns. Then he just proceeds to bann Morde first for absolutely no reason at all. Whats even better is that after 10 minutes or so of waiting (I dodged) I obviously wanted to pick Morde but I was 3. pick and the enemy team first picked him. That was so frustrating but also so funny.
I dunno, I doubt too many people ban Yorick, Galio, Sej, Amumu, Skarner, Brand or Miss Fortune.
I usually ban 
to get the ball rolling and no one complains..... ever.
Usually when I call who I want to use (zed since he is my main) they end up banning him anyways. Their excuse is "oh sorry I didn't see you type that". I think they do it because usually people who call a champ end up feeding. But I don't. So I don't really call him to not ban him.
Except there's always the chance that they loaded into chat after you said that and so didn't see it.
...this isn't common sense?
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I can understand your frustration in calling for picks and bans in Ranked. It is ridiculously tough to not step on everyone's toes and make everyone happy.
When I got stuck in Bronze 5 on my former main account, I saw such arguments made as "respect pick order", "sorry I'm first therefore I am taking mid", etc. and it made me pretty upset. I enjoyed playing the solo lanes, mostly because I knew that no matter what happened, the only person who could screw it up was me. If I got forced into a role I wasn't too good in, and we lost, I got blamed, flamed and reported. Twas not a good time.
There are a few things that I think any ranked player can do to make the pick and ban phase of the game way more interesting for the whole team.
Try and figure out who's comfortable in what role and put them there. If someone wants top, give them top.
Be sure you have all the roles understood before entering into Ranked. If you can't do ADC and you're stuck in the role, you have undeniably screwed your team over. Have champs for all roles and make sure you can at least play one champ per role.
Keep a positive attitude. If you get stuck on Support, don't let that spoil your attitude. You can still have a huge impact, especially if you become the team's coordinator. I've led games from the role of Support and it has ended pretty well for me and my team (this is all on my former main though), but none of it would be possible if I flamed from the very start.
Picks and bans can be fun, but not when the players don't cooperate and communicate to the guy banning and picking.
If you say nothing and I ban who you wanted to play I don't want to read you bitching in chat.
(Especially in Bronze) Well... I have encountered a problem with your logic at times: When you post "don't ban xxx" sometimes the retarded peoples see your champion and ban it anyways. Sometimes they do it intentionally because they don't want you to pick their lane. Other times they see your post, think you wanted it banned, then "apologize" later for the mistake.
Good example of this is 
. If they go top lane and you say "don't ban Fiora" they may just ban it anyways. Then they give you some speech how they didn't want Fiora on the enemy team or not (well just pick 
+almost all top laner tanks you retard).
As a result... lets say if you wanted to use Fiora elsewhere (such as jungler which in Bronze is very possible) its GG for you.
So... although I do agree with your general concept in theory... in reality it doesn't always work out...
