Can I just get demoted to bronze 5, where I belong?

Niyumi·Jan 2, 2016·1 votes·646 views

Obviously I was carried through placements and don't belong in silver, since I lose 60%+ of my games, often lose lane and rarely go positive or even. I'm just tired of having my ass handed to me because I play champions that are fun but not "balanced" enough to win. I don't enjoy any of the "meta" champs that perform well, and I never will. At least in bronze I could probably play the champions I enjoy and do reasonably well.

So Riot, could you just demote me to low bronze, or something? Apparently this game is totally balanced, and I'm just a baddie for dying to targeted, instant-kill nukes and braindead kits, so I obviously belong in bronze.

11 Comments

HEAljvLykdJan 2, 20161 votes

If you suck enough you'll be in bronze. Keep trying.

NiyumiJan 2, 20161 votes

Well, a thousand games later, still silver, still losing most of my games.

DerZermetzelteJan 2, 20161 votes

He can't. After the retar- ... illogical placements that were going on in season 5 (one of my friends, which was new to lol won 2/10 promo-games and got Silver 4), where everyone landed in silver 4 no matter how hard one tried to feed, Bronze pretty much starts from Silver 3 and lower. And when you get there, it's 50/50 to win or lose, even for the biggest nubs. And as you might know, wins give slightly more LP than losses take, so there's a point in low Silver where you can't drop further without feeding intentionally.

MyzJan 2, 20161 votes

Yet you play Orianna, Poppy, Tristana ... all fairly strong picks.

Step up your game and improve instead of blaming your champions picks for your failures !

NiyumiJan 2, 20161 votes

I do fairly well with Poppy unless my team feeds 10-20 kills before 10 minutes. Usually carry with her. ^^ Orianna isn't all that strong, imo, and Trist is just broken like any other ADC -- just click on people and win.

Thing is though, what if I want to play Azir, Ori, Gnar or someone into a clicker? Doesn't matter how well I use my kit, 'cause I can't dodge targeted abilities that two-shot me.

MyzJan 2, 20161 votes

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I do fairly well with Poppy unless my team feeds 10-20 kills before 10 minutes. Usually carry with her. ^^ Orianna isn't all that strong, imo, and Trist is just broken like any other ADC -- just click on people and win.

Thing is though, what if I want to play Azir, Ori, Gnar or someone into a clicker? Doesn't matter how well I use my kit, 'cause I can't dodge targeted abilities that two-shot me.

Gnar is VERY STRONG right now, one of the strongest top laner. Oriana is also very strong, her early game while fairly weak, is easily compensated by her mid to late game. Azir is also very strong but requires a very high skill cap, most azir below plat/diamond suck and will drag their team down.

DerZermetzelteJan 2, 20161 votes

The champs aren't at fault. It's how you play them. Most of what I saw was kinda ok though. And maybe you should drop Orianna. She requires too much skill for a self-proclaimed noob. Play stuff like Ahri or Lux instead.

NiyumiJan 2, 20161 votes

Well, see, I could play someone like LB and go 19/1 on my first game, or Fizz and go 14/5, or Yi and go 16/2 -- and get results like that pretty consistently. Then I have champions who have higher skillcaps, like Azir, and even though I have nearly 50k mastery points on him and know his kit to the T, the numbers just don't perform. Even mathematically, the easier champs often do a lot better than the harder champs.

You brought up Ori, and said she requires too much skill when, really, her kit is just severely undertuned. LB can push Q>R>W and instantly do ~1500-1600 damage, and even more with Thunderlord's. Meanwhile, my whole kit will do maybe 1200 with the same level and amount of AP -- and my kit is all skillshots, while hers is half targeted.

So it's mostly just the champs, I think. Sure I have a little more range than LB, but if I ever try to farm and have no mana, she can instantly kill me by mashing buttons.

Thing is though, I don't have fun playing LB, Fizz. Yi or any similarly easy, strong champion. And I guess that's why I lose.

DerZermetzelteJan 3, 20161 votes

But for trading in damage, you get a shield, movementspeed manipulation, AoE, and a super strong AoE knockup. Know your advantages and use them, but don't come complaining.

And pay attention to teamcomps. Picking your favourite champ into anything won't work. You need the team-comp that supports your intended playstyle.

NiyumiJan 3, 20161 votes

LB has a slow and root, she has AoE, she can fly across the map at mach 10, she's basically Anivia version 2, and can't die unless you ignite her or just burst her so hard she can't mirror image, and does so much damage that it's just absurd.

Meanwhile, I can slow people with a hard to land skillshot that you can just walk out of, I can knock people up for half a second with a similarly easily dodged ability, and have pathetic damage -- oh and a shield for 300 health.

Gee, I wonder who the stronger champion is there?

LB fits into any team comp, Yi fits into nearly any comp, Fizz fits into nearly any comp, Xin fits into nearly any comp, ADCs (the most braindead class in the game, but the strongest, for some reason) are mandatory, etc. Meanwhile, Ori only really does anything in a team with a good engage and CC out the ass.

I can play Syndra in any comp and carry the game, but she's not as fun as Ori or Azir. I can play Kassadin in any comp and carry, but he's also not as fun.

So... Yeah. Got anything else? I'd love some justification for the easier champs being the stronger ones by far.

DerZermetzelteJan 5, 20161 votes

Whatever. just make sure to scrub yourself often enough. Bronze tends to catch rust. Because that's where those cries come from. Holy damn. If you can't use their weaknesses, you don't deserve to win. "Oh Fizz so easy". Play him and participate in a teamfight with your super low 130 manacost on E. And once you got "out of elohell", go try again if it's pick to win.