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Why.. Why are people allowed to join ranked right after 30?

TheDevice··2 votes·449 views

Like no 400 normal game minimum.. no nothing. Just go right ahead and ruin peoples teams left and right.

Why do these people even play ranked? LOLOLOL whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

You're not going to win. If you just hit 30 and you jump in ranked allllllllll you're doing is hoping your team fking carries you. Thats it. This game is so much luck i swear. I even play OP Garen just to give myself that edge now and it DOEST FKING MATTER

People on my team are just ugh. JUST UGHGHGHHGHGGH

And I don't try to be mean. I really don't. I try to keep my team together and not let them get discouraged. IT DOESNT MATTER. Its so funny how all these "stats" about people who dont rage win more games yet all I see is how many challengers and plats rage and get mad at their teams lol. Being nice does not win you games lol. I'm really sorry it doesn't, it just doesnt happen.

Just go right ahead and play that ranked "oh i play ranked cuz they take it more seriously.." YEAH they do. And apparently since you barely know what you're doing and joining ranked anyway, you're not taking it seriously at all. If you were, you'd go practice more. Get like 300 normals under your belt at least. Something my GOD

ugh. I really had to get that out. wow. I mean. You just cannot beleive YOU CANT POSSIBLY make this stuff up how some of these people are.

And on top of that I got this Veigar on enemy team so proud of himself for winning his lane wants to TALK SHIT to me. Just talk shit. "get rekt" "take my dick" Garen u scrub takes 0 skill" meanwhile they have skarner on their team lol. Like. There's no end to it. Not even playing a broke ass champ wins you games your team will do everything in their power to fucking lose.

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EvilMerodach3 votes

Normal win requirement wouldn't really do much to fix the problem. For one, that would just make more pointless time put into secondary accounts, and two, 400 wins does not equal skill. There are people with 2000+ normal wins who still do not have fundamentals down, or know that upgrading your trinket is cost effective. Also there are people with 200 wins that are better than most silvers/golds?

It would end up being a pointless time frame where people just grind it out and complain on forums they're still XXX wins away from being able to start playing the real game. And likely do it out without actually working on improving skills/understanding of game.

If getting from 1-30 doesn't teach you the basics of the game, then the next 10-5000 normal games aren't likely to either, you'll either bottom out at bronze 5 0 lp, and finally figure out that you need to work on your stuff, or have some idea what you're doing and top out wherever you happen to get stuck, then after being stuck there for long enough, figure out you need to work on things.

No amount of normal wins will teach you anything about the game, unless you're willing to learn it, and understand why you need to learn it.

TheDevice1 votes

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Normal win requirement wouldn't really do much to fix the problem. For one, that would just make more pointless time put into secondary accounts, and two, 400 wins does not equal skill. There are people with 2000+ normal wins who still do not have fundamentals down, or know that upgrading your trinket is cost effective. Also there are people with 200 wins that are better than most silvers/golds?

It would end up being a pointless time frame where people just grind it out and complain on forums they're still XXX wins away from being able to start playing the real game. And likely do it out without actually working on improving skills/understanding of game.

If getting from 1-30 doesn't teach you the basics of the game, then the next 10-5000 normal games aren't likely to either, you'll either bottom out at bronze 5 0 lp, and finally figure out that you need to work on your stuff, or have some idea what you're doing and top out wherever you happen to get stuck, then after being stuck there for long enough, figure out you need to work on things.

No amount of normal wins will teach you anything about the game, unless you're willing to learn it, and understand why you need to learn it.

complete.. and utter... nonsense lol

I can't believe you actually said that. You're framing as if you should know everything about the game by level 30 and hit plat in a week. This is the most nonsense ive read in a post thus far. You're actually telling people not to practice. This is your actual argument.

By level 30 I didn't know HALF the stuff in this game.

You're saying that by level FUCKIN 30 you should know all the champs and what they do or else you're just hopeless? That by level 30 you should feel comfortable with EVERY single role in the game? That by level 30 you should own enough champs to be able to swap if needed? That by level 30 you should know proper bans? You should have all the proper runes and mastery pages for all the roles?

And thats just CHAMPION SELECT

EvilMerodach1 votes

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complete.. and utter... nonsense lol

I can't believe you actually said that. You're framing as if you should know everything about the game by level 30 and hit plat in a week. This is the most nonsense ive read in a post thus far. You're actually telling people not to practice. This is your actual argument.

By level 30 I didn't know HALF the stuff in this game.

You're saying that by level FUCKIN 30 you should know all the champs and what they do or else you're just hopeless? That by level 30 you should feel comfortable with EVERY single role in the game? That by level 30 you should own enough champs to be able to swap if needed? That by level 30 you should know proper bans? You should have all the proper runes and mastery pages for all the roles?

And thats just CHAMPION SELECT

I didn't say you should know everything. Even pro's don't know everything. I said you should have had enough time to learn the basics, enough to get by in bronze/silver without causing too much havoc to your own team.

Having full rune pages and owning champions to trade is useful, but if you're low enough tier for the argument of required 400 wins to matter, you'll likely be playing with people who don't understand/refuse to do trades, and got a bunch of mismatched runes that aren't effective anyway. So being able to trade won't help much.

The root problem is probably more likely that normals don't do nearly enough to "grade" you after a game, it doesn't inherently tell you your mistakes, and allies covering for your mistakes can make it seem like you made none. (Mastery very mildly does that, but it really doesn't tell people what mistakes they made, just that they probably made some, and people can just grind out level 5 and think they're doing well, as there is no real benchmark on how many games it should take to get to 5.) I see people claim they 'carried' with a score of like 22/15/4 Tryndamere. And claiming their '0/8 support was worthless' Completely not understanding that 0/8/30 Janna is actually really good, and dying 15 times with Tryndamere (or anyone for that matter) is horrible no matter how many kills you got.

And they could go on and do that 400 more times, every time thinking they did well.

disregardable2 votes

To new level 30s: You don't want to look back and regret, man. Don't ignore everyone's advice. Don't play before you have 400-500 normal games under your belt.

Looking back at my very first ranked games . . . I am so sorry to my former teammates. If I could take it all back, I would.

https://i.gyazo.com/324b97567fb9d185120cd4249ca7906e.jpg

Like. I didn't even own Lucian. That was when free week champions were allowed in ranked. That was probably my first time as him. It didn't even occur to me that I should play champions I have experience with.

That flash heal GA Annie? Yeah that was support. I played that 3 times in my provisional, no experience with supporting. I distinctly remember someone telling me I wasn't doing anything. And 0/5/0 42 cs teemo. I just.

I was really disappointed I only got placed in B3. Looking at it now, I am appalled that I wasn't placed directly in B5.

And then after I failed my placements horrifically, I started spamming item 3085 MissFortune. Really, I thought it was very strong.

https://i.gyazo.com/57728a3d05231bdce678e6c475f4ea2d.jpg

61939590DEL11 votes

I will look @ your recent history in ranked later on this morning. My experience is with lane control regardless of what lane I'm controlling one lane always feeds the enemy team which snowballs the whole game.

Getattorex1 votes

Well, in my opinion it is okay to let people who are lvl 30 play ranked.

They will be matched with summoners with the same elo-mmr-w/e, they have only 10 games to "ruin people's games" and if they're bad enough they'll go to bronze 5.

First of all, not only you have to be lvl 30 but you have to have bought 16 champions(if i remmember correctly).

So this people has been playing league for, lets say, a month and they have bought champions they like, and they want to play some ranked. Then why the hell not? The only reason i can think of is runes. Maybe there should be a runes restriction because it gives you a big edge. However, i dont think they should have like 400wins on normals, that wont change the fact that there's a system who matches people of the same level(I'm not saying that the system is perfect, but it kinda works in long terms).

If you are matched with this people, then you're only a little bit better than them, dont analize to much at your teammates. If you improve yourself, you WILL climb, i can tell.

I've been playing since early season 3 and i have been in bronze 5. I'm currently gold 4, not that high, but i've climber though bronze and silver in the past. And maybe being nice wont win games but focusing on your own skill will.

Hope i'm helpfull.

And by the way, you should mute people like veigar who only wants to make you salty.

61939590DEL11 votes

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Well, in my opinion it is okay to let people who are lvl 30 play ranked.

They will be matched with summoners with the same elo-mmr-w/e, they have only 10 games to "ruin people's games" and if they're bad enough they'll go to bronze 5.

First of all, not only you have to be lvl 30 but you have to have bought 16 champions(if i remmember correctly).

So this people has been playing league for, lets say, a month and they have bought champions they like, and they want to play some ranked. Then why the hell not? The only reason i can think of is runes. Maybe there should be a runes restriction because it gives you a big edge. However, i dont think they should have like 400wins on normals, that wont change the fact that there's a system who matches people of the same level(I'm not saying that the system is perfect, but it kinda works in long terms).

If you are matched with this people, then you're only a little bit better than them, dont analize to much at your teammates. If you improve yourself, you WILL climb, i can tell.

I've been playing since early season 3 and i have been in bronze 5. I'm currently gold 4, not that high, but i've climber though bronze and silver in the past. And maybe being nice wont win games but focusing on your own skill will.

Hope i'm helpfull.

And by the way, you should mute people like veigar who only wants to make you salty.

How long does it take for the average player to reach Lv 30? I began playing in Nov 2014, you be shock to see when i achieve lv30 with like no runes @ all. I like was shit no wonder i had no advantage:(

Getattorex1 votes

I think a month or so, i dont remember how much it took to myself but i played it regularly and i still do. You shouldnt feel bad if you play like shit, because this game is for fun OR competitive.

If you want to be more competitive, watch some videos, pratise and hace the right mindset!

61939590DEL11 votes

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I think a month or so, i dont remember how much it took to myself but i played it regularly and i still do. You shouldnt feel bad if you play like shit, because this game is for fun OR competitive.

If you want to be more competitive, watch some videos, pratise and hace the right mindset!

it took about 4mths to lv30 since i was job hunting during the winter & focusing on other ps3 games & Maplestory. I play competitive just like in COD games. So I'm paying for this 3mth skillecapped coaching Next Friday guaranteed , but if i see that I've learn everything i should know by now & if i'm not climbing out my bronze V than it's not the coaching fault it's the MMR which plummets to low elo since i get frustrated with losing & leave games when they are already out of hand(feed enemy).

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