Whats the point if your just going to FF at 20?

Guy Fox Teemo··9 votes·1,424 views

(Only talking about Ranked Games)

Like why the hell are you playing the mode DESIGNED for the competitive players who want to climb to the top? If you don't have a Win or Die trying attitude then don't play ranked. Even if you do lose , surrendering at 20 doesn't help. You won't learn from mistakes, you wont learn anything. And you'll never get better if you always quit. Trial and Error, even if you have to drag it out to 50 Minutes, just to win. Then so be it.

If you think it's "Wasting time" to drag a game on, THEN WHY THE FUCK are you playing this game. Yes in ranked your goal is to always win, but for fucks sake man. Just because it was a loss doesn't mean it was a waste of time. It was a learning experience, learning not to make that mistake again and what you can do better in future games, it should also BE FUN, regardless of whether you lost or won. If your only goal in this game is to climb Elo and win. Then you should probably find another game. Don't stress yourself, playing something you don't enjoy just because you want that shiny Gold border and Victorious Skin.

24 Comments

FooDang2 votes

Koreans FF @ 20 so they can get to the next game and hopefully win @ 20. Thats why they are better at micro than the other regions, the competition is fierce and their mechanics get tested and pressured @ lvl 1. They play to snowball the game and win, they will FF unless the game is close. Statistically if they are good they will climb if they win more games than lose... and playing catch up sucks I personally would FF and get to the next game than waiting for that epic comeback. I play the game for fun and late game is not fun for me.

Eastrid1 votes

Everyone FF even in the championships there's just some games you can't win.

Aerothal1 votes

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Everyone FF even in the championships there's just some games you can't win.

his point is that you can learn from a loss, most of the time more even than from a win.

Eastrid1 votes

I know his point, but unless you are playing with friends there's not much to learn every game will be different depending on who you play with. If you are talking about learning how to play a champion you shouldn't be doing in rank.

Guy Fox Teemo2 votes

Talking about ranked, you can learn so much from a long drawn out game, even if it's a loss. There's always a point in playing, even if you do lose, you should have still had fun, your only purpose shouldn't be just to win.

Eastrid2 votes

When you play rank you don't play for fun... You play to rank up and unlock rewards at the end of the season. But to each there own people have the right to FF if they want as you have the right to say No to it. All I can say is that there wasn't a reason to FF Riot wouldn't let us do it then.

Guy Fox Teemo2 votes

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When you play rank you don't play for fun... You play to rank up and unlock rewards at the end of the season. But to each there own people have the right to FF if they want as you have the right to say No to it. All I can say is that there wasn't a reason to FF Riot wouldn't let us do it then.

Don't play league of legends then. Who the fuck plays a game and not have the intention of having fun? You don't gain ANY real actual value in your life, by getting diamond master challenger whatever in a game. What you do get though is fun, and it's FUN to rank up, and its FUN getting better, and seeing how far you can get. Whats not fun is stressing over every ranked game on whether you win or lose. And thinking it was a waste of time if you lost. I hate that kind of attitude, if your not having fun, then no reason to play the game. Its the entire point.

Eastrid2 votes

You shouldn't be posting on the forums if you are going to get upset when someone doesn't think like you. Guessing you don't read any post on forums people take rank serious that's there choice. Like you getting mad at people that FF maybe you shouldn't be playing League. People have the right to play how they want without being judged because remember it's a game for fun. :P

Ra1d1 votes

^^^......i really hate it when they say it was a waste. I play ranked consistantly and i try to push my skills as i play. Ive actually gotten better in the last 3 months of ranked play than i have in the last year of tb and normal play. The only thkng that changed though is i shifted from solely using my main to branching into all lanes and learning from mistakes. I will never ff in ranked because i analyze my own mistakes and also i watch my enemies play buils and look at stats masteries and runes afterwards. Ranked is a great way to learn it takes time so itll never be a waste because all the time you spend in ranked you learn.

Tehlawlfirm1 votes

Normals is for Practice and fun Ranked is for competitive play to climb

If you are trying to learn new champions , mechanics etc in ranked you are an idiot.

The reason it is a waste of time is because what can you possibly learn playing 3 vs 5 when you have 2 afks on your team.. 9 times out of 10 you are going to have 5 people on your team and those are the games you learn from but when you have afks on your team you are essentially wasting time because I don't see how practicing to have afks on your team would make you better, the game is designed around team work.

what you deserve1 votes

I've won a 3V5 before. I'm not sure what exactly you're saying. Practicing with AFKs on your team totally helps you learn how to carry.

Tehlawlfirm1 votes

3vs5 in normals? Low elo? Sorry but you will never win a 3 vs5 in higher elo. The only way you can win a 3vs5 is if the enemy team is new players or low elo and just bad. You only get better playing better players, if you don't agree you are low elo.

I've never heard anyone say "Man I got good playing Beginner bots"!

It's always " I Got better playing better players and learning"

what you deserve1 votes

Ranked, Bronze V. I'm not sure I see your point here- I'm still learning how to play, even if I'm missing my botlane. A fed midlaner can sufficiently make up for an ADC who's allowed to freely farm. I learned how to play my champion and make effective calls better- knowing when you can safely go into a fight isn't exclusive to a balanced game.

Tehlawlfirm1 votes

Ya but you can learn those mechanics etc in Normals. Here is the thing , many people get stuck in bronze silver and stay there for a long time, you know why? Because they are playing against other low elo players, who are making bad choices and plays. Most of them never learn much because that's all they are used too, the people that get better are people who watch Twitch players & LCS and learn how to do stuff correctly.

I have 3 accounts, 1 in bronze 1 in gold and then one in diamond/plat 5s and solo que. On my bronze account it's annoying because I know when we can win a team fight, when to group & when to get objectives, my team doesn't and even when you tell them they get all offended and just don't do it.

In higher elo everyone knows pretty much the same thing you do, you don't even have to type just ping and everyone knows exactly what you are trying to do.

Many times in bronze i'll ping for an engage and go in knowing we can easy win a team fight, yet my team will back off, recall or split up during an engage and end up getting me killed, then when I die go in 4 vs 5 and lose. In diamond/plat If I engage everyone knows to go in with me and if they have any doubts about the engage they will at least ping to let me know that they aren't ready so i'll back off.

Low elo & high elo is two different types of game play, if you want to get high elo you have to learn from high elo players, you will never get better trying to learn from low elo because they are low elo for a reason.

Also in bronze if you are missing bot lane and your mid is fed, chances are you are still going to lose because a fed player in bronze doesn't know how to make good with getting fed. How many times have you seen a Yi on your team that is fed but doesn't split push? I've seen it a lot, instead they run around racking up kills but never do anything with it objective wise, then all it takes is one ace for them to push a lane and get an inhib.

You can try to debate me with right and what is wrong, but I've accomplished up to diamond 2 and have played for 3 years so I know a little about what i'm talking about. Best thing is to do is get ride of this notion that you know everything and start fresh, Learn from higher elo not lower elo. Even higher elo doesn't know everything but they are a lot more experienced in the game then people in bronze.

The Best way to get out of bronze is Csing , getting fed and carrying, that's really all there is to it. Relying on your team is probably the worst thing you can do at that elo.

what you deserve1 votes

"Relying on your team is probably the worst thing you can do at that elo." This is why I don't FF even when I'm 4v5- I myself can play well enough that one of my teammates disconnecting doesn't really concern me a whole lot.

Tehlawlfirm1 votes

I checked your match history that is a lie.

what you deserve1 votes

It's not a lie. I don't need to explain myself to you.

Tehlawlfirm1 votes

Yes it is and if you don't need to explain your self why do you keep explaining yourself?

4ManVotedAgainst1 votes

Anybody who votes Yes to a surrender within their first 100 matches of Ranked should be auto-demoted into Bronze-V with their MMR set to 0 points. Then I wouldn't have had to waste time with my first 50 matches of this season with every single game in a row being everybody else feeding followed by four-man-surrender-voting.

Slamurai Jack1 votes

Because the competitive part of the game is very often already past by 20 minutes. If you're down 10k gold at 20 minutes, you've already lost, and probably lost a solid 10 minutes ago. I wish we could surrender earlier because games honestly are often won or lost before 15 minutes, let alone 20 minutes. No point in sticking around in a complete stomp for any longer than is necessary.

what you deserve1 votes

This, and this is why I don't understand people who threaten to report me when I always refuse to surrender.

BeatinWarDrumz1 votes

You're* trollololol

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