If theres 30 minons top and the enemy top laner shoving down our bot lane inhib tower. We can't "group" and hope for the best. I see this problem sooooo often in my games, because people think that if you just "Group" you'll win. You need to have waves pushed out or you won't be able to do shit, because you can't out rotate the enemy team because you have no waves.
TLDR: Shove waves before grouping.
TyrekGoldenspear11 votesNo! Don't listen to OP!
Always group no matter what!
I'll be over here with my main. 
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JerulEon4 votesIs brand really your main? -.-
The Blue Rajah6 votesWhat's wrong with that?
JerulEon2 votesNothing. I was trying to make a peculiar face. Was not very successful.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesHe's mid main #1.
Viktor and Lux are #2 and #3.
JerulEon1 votesWhat's your main and secondary role? Just wondering
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesI actually answered this in another post.
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/NBxhE0vo-question-time-who-do-you-main-why
JerulEon1 votesI read through the whole thing. I respect you and all of your mains 👌👌
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesThanks! ^^ You should post your mains in that thread, I'd love to read it.
JerulEon1 votesI would like to but I don't really have a main role or mains. Next season I will tho!
MonkeyMadness1 votesI think we can be friends 
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TyrekGoldenspear1 votesYeah, perhaps. Either way I call a truce on our other conversation.
Zane Zephyr9 votesIt irks me sooooo much when I see an incoming wave in one of the side lanes and I ping that I'm going there to shove it out, and then my team decides to get caught out or try to fight then gets mad at me for "splitpushing"
Like, do you want that giant minion wave to go to waste or possibly get splitpushed right into the tower?
Escheton7 votesPlay Singed, push all waves. Ignore team. Win game.
Champion Skin4 votesSinged can actually be somewhat effective in teamfights as well because of how disruptive he can be... though yes he is probably best at being a distraction and being more effort then it is worth to try and kill
Verxint4 votesNot much gets me more aggravated then when someone on my team is constantly itching for a fight against a splitpush comp and doesn't understand why I'm not going to stand there posturing with them for 3 minutes when the enemy has 
Draqone1 votesEasy solution, play Yorick yourself.
Ult Top, ZZ rot bot, 5v5 in midlane.
If you build full tank you can make midlane fights last 2+ minutes and in that time both top and bot waves are at enemy inhib which means it doesn't matter if you lost. And if you won it's GG.
Verxint1 votesI have plenty of options for splitpushers, in fact I'd rather my team know how to handle a standoff because I tend to win prolonged 1v1 splitpushes at my level.
I just frequently get the Vayne/Lucian/Ekko/Yasuo who literally don't understand that you don't have to go for kills all the time and constantly start fights regardless of the status of the sidelanes or where anyone is.
Pandemic Punch3 votesEvery... Single..... GAME
JerulEon3 votesTo people in Bronze and silver, shove side lanes slightly past river and group for objectives. Generally this is the best way is to group unless you have TP. With TP, teleport to your team as a fight breaks out while splitting so you have maximum map pressure. Just make sure you tell your team to not fight until you push far enough.
Joseraph1 votesThanks for the advice!
TheHappyReaperz3 votesThe number of times my team goes out to team fight an pays no attention to the winions actually disturbs me.
Champion Skin2 votes
OP
DunkinNoobs3 votes"Just group." But they have Fiora in top lane, Yasuo in bot lane, and Ezreal, Janna, and Nunu mid. "Just group." We're never going to be able to engage against those 3 mid lane without losing objectives both bot and top. "Just group." Seriously no point in grouping; need to catch either Fiora or Yasuo and then force an objective while they're dead. "Just group." Fine, we'll do it your stupid way.
Nexus explosion "GG EZ noobs" -Yasuo 2016.
SlashStriker3 votesthe first thing you gotta do after recall is go to free side lane immediately to clean the lane then go mid and group despite your role in the game
Most people completely ignore sidelanes completely ignoring the fact that 30 minions can take down turret. After turret they will take down inhibitor
Many people completely ignore Super Minions or even don't care if they lose inhibitor Drake and Baron > Nexus / inhibitor or is it?
HOLY SHIT GAIZ THEY ARE DOING BARON!!! SOMEONE GO CHECK IT OUT!!! someone goes at baron and dies to the enemy team. Fucking genius!
People completely ignore the basic rules of the game to win the game you need to destroy the enemy Nexus to destroy the enemy Nexus you need to take down at least 1 enemy inhibitor to take down enemy inhibitor you need to take down towers
RisenDarkKnight2 votesUgh this tilts me whenever i'm playing a tanky teamfighter like Amumu or Sej and our top lane split pusher like Jax/Fiora refuses to go top when the minions are on the inhib tower, and gets mad at me for not being there when they push up mid and get engaged on.
It's like "Duh, I told you to go handle the top wave, we can't group if the enemy can threaten our side wave inhibs."
Champion Skin4 votesWhat? You mean to say that Nasus and Tryndamere isn't always top split pushing... oh my bad of course the good ones will also split push bot lane as well
Curious Kat2 votesI always get the teams that group when we shouldn't and split when we need to be grouped.
Like the good ol saying "i shoulda zigged when i zagged".
Makes me SMH every time.
Supreme Senpai691 votesHad a game where I was Sona, mid laner was Annie, and our ADC was MF
For some strange reason I couldn't get those knuckleheads to group a single time. Easiest ace ever...
ChaoticPinecone2 votesIn a perfect world, yes - push side waves before grouping, taking a teamfight, get baron, have nicely prepped side waves that you can baron up, take 3 inhib, then go get Elder and win the game.
But in a real game, sometimes you dont have that luxury.
shalexade1 votesIt's why zz'rots is such a strong item in solo queue. Enough of them, and grouping is always the right approach. :D
Champion Skin2 votesYou don't even need to fight you just need to stall and if someone goes to deal with you can threaten baron to try and lure the enemy team in (to try and get a 5v4 fight)
Zelorxon1 votesWhat is map pressure.
DeynaTaggerung1 votesIt is very irksome to watch a team try and analyze(i.e. start blaming things) itself after failing a fight because 90% of the time they're way off. However, sometimes you have to give up that juicy side wave because there's something important to group for. You don't need total map control to get things, but at the same time you shouldn't group for no reason, always have a clear and obtainable goal.
Solitair1 votesI hate being called to group as a split pushing top laner when the rest of the team plans on just standing blank-spacedly in front of the enemy turret with our group. Not even seiging or realistically trying to follow up on a pick or make one themselves, or take any objective at all. I'll just go back to lane and keep farming/ creating pressure/taking turrets, ty
Wolftastic331 votesI hate being called to group as a split pushing top laner when the rest of the team plans on just standing blank-spacedly in front of the enemy turret with our group. Not even seiging or realistically trying to follow up on a pick or make one themselves, or take any objective at all. I'll just go back to lane and keep farming/ creating pressure/taking turrets, ty
And then after they take more poke than the enemy due to the tower and the enemy knows they can now easily win the 5v4, they blame you.
BladeSteel1 votesFor example... "OH NASUS SO USELESS ALL HE DOES IS FARM GG HE DOESN'T HELP IN TEAMFIGHTS PLS REPORT X9"
falldown0102 votesexpect nasus can do a lot of sht, if you can keep the enemy occupied while he pushes , towers are pieces of paper to him
BladeSteel1 votesyeah...we know...but we all have had teams that complain that you don't do anything as nasus in teamfights...because you aren't in them. So they rage and are toxic all game, not realizing that you're trying to take their turrets and not playing like they should because "WE SHOULD GROUP NUBS YOU ALL SUCK" etc etc.
Kotex1 votesYoull have an easier time teaching astrophysics to a cinderblock wall than this to a pub, sadly.
BigBellBrute1 votesJust group and form an orderly single file line please. 
BigBellBrute1 votes
Just group and put your bathing suit on for a dip in the pool.
BigBellBrute1 votes How bout a nice big group hug!!!??
JDB8eoX8x01 votes"group mid group mid group mid" Pings teammates 20 times until somebody tells them to shut the fuck up "reported!"
Yordle Xayah1 votesJust a couple days ago I was in a game, and jungler was like "We need to group, they are grouping" They however... had a Sona, a Kenen and a Rumble. So I told them... "No, don't group. Push lanes separatedly, since me (Trist) and Olaf are quite strong"
We just won skirmishes in 1-3-1, 2-3 and 1-4 scenarios and that's how we won the game! Pay attention to your compositions! [slayer-jinx-wink]
Iźuku Midoriya1 votesI mean another thing people dont realize is that sometimes their team is just better at team fighting and grouping will make things worse
mustafa28811 votesdon't group Keepo
or whatever
