As long as GP has his Q the way it is he can never be considered some king of pirates

Trash MammaI··2 votes·669 views

Pirates are adventurous, bold, and brave.

Being able to shoot someone with a point and click skill and have 0 interaction with them doesn't scream pirate at all. You're better off putting that on a new champ that's scared of fighting.

Same goes for Tryn and Pantheon

Pantheon suppose to be a spartan who normally are built tough for fighting and dueling people showing no mercy. Chunking a spear at someone and stunning them w/e they get near you and running isn't very..spartany at all

The only champ who fits some hardcore manly theme is Olaf. He's a viking who throws an axe at your face and bashes your face in and says fuck you to everyone when he ults and continues rampaging

EDIT: By this post I meant how they're usually played not how their kits are. You never see a pantheon trying to fight you they just mash Q till you back or low enough to go in. You never see a tryn fight until he reaches his BS spike otherwise he runs from any conflict. Same for GP. They don't fight you they run all the time. His Q should've been a skill shot

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Variks the Loyal2 votes

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Pirates are adventurous, bold, and brave.

Being able to shoot someone with a point and click skill and have 0 interaction with them doesn't scream pirate at all. You're better off putting that on a new champ that's scared of fighting.

Same goes for Tryn and Pantheon

Pantheon suppose to be a spartan who normally are built tough for fighting and dueling people showing no mercy. Chunking a spear at someone and stunning them w/e they get near you and running isn't very..spartany at all

The only champ who fits some hardcore manly theme is Olaf. He's a viking who throws an axe at your face and bashes your face in and says fuck you to everyone when he ults and continues rampaging

I don't know what sorta pirates you've been seeing. Pirates aren't bold, they're crafty. Adventurous, yes, but for the treasure, not for adventure.

Pirates are rapists, pillagers, and thieves. They take every angle and every advantage, no matter how small, to get what's jingling in your coinpurse. Not only would that pirate shoot you in a heartbeat with a pistol when you can't fight back, he'd take the clothes off you're back when you're dead, use it to masquerade in the enemy's crew, and poison them all while they sleep.

And that's okay, I love ruthless, pragmatic pirates.

ShuffledPancake1 votes

So chucking your axe and running = realistic viking but a spartan jump on you slamming a spear into you and jabbing you = non realistic?

Trash MammaI1 votes

A viking throwing an axe at your face running up to you to do it again and slamming down with the power of thunder in your face and bashing it in constantly with an axe till you can't live is how most Olaf's I see play

Just about every pantheon I see just presses Q till they get you low enough to go in. If you get close they W then run till you back off an repeat. There's no interaction because his kit doesn't need it. That's probably why Rito doesn't like point and click skills. You don't have to do anything vs anybody but click and back off it's not flashy enough for the lcs

ShuffledPancake1 votes

You do realise all you do as olaf is spam q till low then mash keys.

Jamaree1 votes

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A viking throwing an axe at your face running up to you to do it again and slamming down with the power of thunder in your face and bashing it in constantly with an axe till you can't live is how most Olaf's I see play

Yeah, but here is the way all Olaf's play, you E, back off wait for the CDs to come back up, then E and back off again, or Q until low, then dive, not exactly Vikingish or all that aggressive if you ask me.

Just about every pantheon I see just presses Q till they get you low enough to go in. If you get close they W then run till you back off an repeat. There's no interaction because his kit doesn't need it. That's probably why Rito doesn't like point and click skills. You don't have to do anything vs anybody but click and back off it's not flashy enough for the lcs

That is true about the point and click skills though and they are forgoing most of them slowly because of the lack of interactions, but that isn't what is really being said here. Your depiction of Pirates and Spartans are based off movies and not after actual real life depictions, it isn't to say it is wrong, just different.

Telemachus71 votes

true. but panth is a spartan, some of the most skilled fighters ever. so the stun i think is something they would use. Pirates dont really have any 'rules' in fighting, so bringing a gun to a knife fight (or staff, sword, etc) seems piraty to me. and Tryn will fight until he literally has no life and will still keep fighting. thats pretty badass.

Trash MammaI1 votes

Tryn will fight until he literally has no life and will still keep fighting.

vs minion yea, once a champ shows up they just run

frtanko1 votes

You guys are missing the point. He said it's meh to have point and click abilities that even small child can hit without practice. Clicking on someone and letting the game do all for you isn't nor piratish nor spartanish.

Olaf on the other hand goes guts out and don't give a f about any cc or anything and throws an axe at you and than kill you....

The thing about this game is that skillshots always were and always will be more enjoyable that point'n'click abilities.

Jamaree1 votes

When you describe it like that, anything sounds wimpy, I mean what is manly about throwing an axe then running away?

Telemachus71 votes

*running at the enemy

Jamaree1 votes

Or running away, chunking Qs because you are running away.

Trash MammaI1 votes

Except Riot was smart enough to make it so you have to pick up his axe to get the CD reduction, which means if he's even thinking about spamming his axe's and running he has to go toward the enemy.

When you play Gankplank in game and you're face to face with the enemy who's charging at you. You're going to Q him and run away then eat an orange to make it k if you get cc'd till he backs off (flash is necessary) I don't feel like a pirate, I feel like a pacifist christian with self-defense

When you play Olaf in game and you're face to face with the enemy you're the one charging at them with your ghost and throwing an axe into their backs as they try to run roaring with your ult on as you ignore cc saying "you're aren't getting away" and start bashing their face in.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

i dont agree on the gangplank part but i agree on the pantheon part. spartans are meant to be really though fighters but pantheon actually isnt even a fighter. hes so weak at fighting that there are only a few champs in the entire game that he can take on 1v1, and he can neither run away nor chase people. he is literally his ultimate to catch people for his team.

sure spartans were pretty smart strategists too, so catching people from unexpected angles is probably one of their speciality too, but i dont know, its just weird for pantheon to be such a weakling.

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