Wow... just wow.

Kikirino··96 votes·7,163 views

Just came from a game in which the multiple players raged a a player for playing poorly. Yes, he was playing horribly and his build was bad for the situation and losing sucks. I get this. But what I do not and will never understand is why people get so pissed that they wish harm on the bad player.

i wish cancer upon you and your whole family yeh (player) i hope u and ur fam dies of cancer

It was a fucking LoL match! Holy shit, you two, and anyone like you, are fucking pathetic. I am so sure that wishing cancer on someone will make them play better in the future. Thank you so much for helping this player, and the community, to be better. Next time you play poorly you better wish cancer upon yourselves. Wouldn't want you to be a douchebag AND a hypocrite.

116 Comments

FlashySlayer29 votes

You should watch League of Children on Youtube. It really showcases the toxicity of the league community.

Gunpoint3 votes

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You should watch League of Children on Youtube. It really showcases the toxicity of the league community.

I like the "Toxic Dad" episode lol. 40 year old guy playing LoL raging.

iLuv Dongs1 votes

It has nothing to do with League, and more just online games in general. I just played a Strife match where I was called an: Idiot, Dumbass, fucktard, and fucking idiot by each member of my team. Why? Because being new, I unknowingly walked into the solo lane (bot lane, apparently)... before the minions even spawned.

Cloudinator371 votes

instead of pointing to a mockery comical that might entertain you for a few seconds, how about doing something about these players. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/majPomTZ-where-are-tribunal-reports-going

FlashySlayer1 votes

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instead of pointing to a mockery comical that might entertain you for a few seconds, how about doing something about these players. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/majPomTZ-where-are-tribunal-reports-going

Why aren't you the one reporting it? besides he probably reported them already. If not then his viewers had.

Cloudinator371 votes

I report people for any reason they give me with detailed descriptions and sometimes even links to uploaded match videos so they can watch what happened if i feel it was that bad. I also make it blatantly obvious when they are in the wrong by asking them specific questions which display their intentions. If i ask someone to stop harassing me and they say 'LOL' and continue... You see where i am coming from here.

Vellich0r15 votes

they're overstuffed douchewallets made from kangaroo scrotum leather, pay them no attention.

Dead Wife2 votes

omg that is an awesome summary I was laughing so hard I nearly spit out the pumpkin pie I was eating...

SkullDuggery197 votes

What if someone showed up to the basketball court and started running around with the ball and not dribbling, while shooting at the wrong basket? They might get cussed out. I agree, that is mean, but you should at least have some knowledge of how to play the game you are going into.

It's frustrating to play on a team with someone who refuses to learn from mistakes, and types "lol, it's just a game" when they die. This is infinitely worse than cuss words that you can mute. At least you can report the ragers, and they will be punished. People who choose not to try just get away with it.

Edit - Since nobody seems to understand that I am not saying ragers shouldn't be punished, I AM NOT SAYING THAT RAGERS SHOULDN'T BE PUNISHED!!!!!!! This thread shows the hypocritical nature of the other toxic player, the crybaby. Go ahead and call me an idiot, moron, etc... It only forces your hypocrisy to be so evident that it can't be ignored. Happy holidays!

Killer of Poros15 votes

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What if someone showed up to the basketball court and started running around with the ball and not dribbling, while shooting at the wrong basket? They might get cussed out. I agree, that is mean, but you should at least have some knowledge of how to play the game you are going into.

It's frustrating to play on a team with someone who refuses to learn from mistakes, and types "lol, it's just a game" when they die. This is infinitely worse than cuss words that you can mute. At least you can report the ragers, and they will be punished. People who choose not to try just get away with it.

But you aren't told to kill yourself or to get cancer over a basketball game.

SkullDuggery197 votes

I've heard worse. I once saw a guy get his head put through a Mortal Kombat machine (the screen). People are unpredictable when angry. Sticks and stones buddy. If I can convince you to kill yourself through an anonymous online interaction, then you also have a problem.

Edit - Kevin Garnett once told Carmello Anthony that his wife tastes like fruit loops. If that isn't toxic then I don't know what is. Yet there were no suspensions, no "telling mommy" which seems to be so popular with this community. Grow up, people are mean. It sucks, deal with it.

Kikirino14 votes

"Your wife tastes like fruit loops" "I hope you die of cancer."

Clearly those are comparable. Yeah, people are assholes. "Deal with it" is such a bland and useless response. People murder people. Grow up, deal with it. Makes you sound like a fucking idiot doesn't it?

SkullDuggery192 votes

You can spend your life fighting verbal assault if you wish. I'm not here to stop you.

Calling someone a "fucking idiot" is the most bland and useless thing you can say. It's not even an original insult. You can do better than that, come on. ;)

Brenticus124 votes

It's not an insult, clearly from what you think, you ARE a fucking idiot, or a troll. Either way you're a moron.

SkullDuggery192 votes

What you say doesn't affect me. The very fact that I'm being verbally assaulted for having a different opinion shows this community's maturity level. You can't handle someone talking shit, but you sure can respond with insults. This whole community can go fuck itself.

The only reason you feel comfortable insulting people is because you are in your safety bubble. I insulted nobody, and was attacked for having a different opinion. Hypocritical much?

Also, you clearly don't know how to use a comma. Yet you think I'm an idiot? HA, go fuck yourself kid. Take this attitude in real life and see where it gets ya.

Zamiake3 votes

A punch to the face most likely. Talking like that to anyone around where i live would get you one massive falcon punch to the face followed by some good old fashion back handing

SkullDuggery192 votes

That's why they come here while in the safety of their bubble. Because they wouldn't dare talk like this to anyone in real life. They probably also struggle to find girlfriends, seeing as how women don't like men who always want someone to fell sorry for them.

LittlefingerPvP1 votes

This circle-jerk is cute.

SkullDuggery191 votes

It's nothing compared to the huge circle-jerk that is these boards. Have a differing opinion? Don't worry, it will be hidden from sight. Make a post complaining about name-calling in game? You can absolutely name-call anyone who disagrees with you in your thread.

It says "discuss" at the top, yet there is very little to encourage actual discussion.

LittlefingerPvP2 votes

Sorry not many people like being told to "get cancer" or "kill yourself". Doesn't really mean that just because you don't mind it, everyone else should kind of just deal with it.

I mean, I'm all for talking shit and tell people they fucking suck ass at this game, but there is no reason to tell someone to go kill themselves, or to wish an illness like cancer upon someone and their family.

SkullDuggery192 votes

I agree. They should be banned for saying things like that. If someone's reaction to that is to troll, then they should also be banned.

Thank you for the respectful comment. I appreciate someone making a point without calling the other person stupid.

Kikirino2 votes

I can handle talking shit. I talk shit. You should know that from my replies to you. What I can't handle is people thinking it is okay to wish a horrible disease, harm or death on someone over a fucking video game.

Learn to read properly and conversations like this would be avoided.

SkullDuggery191 votes

If you knew how to read, you would see that I never defended ragers. I only pointed out that reacting to the rage is stupid. Maybe you should brush up on your reading comprehension before posting online.

Kikirino2 votes

Did I ever say you defended ragers? Not once. You did, however, say "You can't handle someone talking shit, but you sure can respond with insults. This whole community can go fuck itself." That is what I was referring to.

Again, learn to read before you post another comment that has nothing to do with what I am saying.

SkullDuggery191 votes

Keep reporting. It's the only place you'll be able to do it. Telling someone to "learn to read" while being grammatically idiotic is very useful to this conversation. But then again, this is less of a conversation and more of a whiny "agree with me or else" post.

Kikirino2 votes

Please point me to a point in which i even remotely said or implied "agree with me or else". All I am doing is correcting you.

Bard in a Diaper2 votes

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"Your wife tastes like fruit loops" "I hope you die of cancer."

Clearly those are comparable. Yeah, people are assholes. "Deal with it" is such a bland and useless response. People murder people. Grow up, deal with it. Makes you sound like a fucking idiot doesn't it?

So you complain about a bad comparison and then you compare I hope you die of cancer to actually murdering some one. Lol internet warriors are so unintelligent.

Kikirino1 votes

I was comparing nothing in my statement. I was showing how stupid of a response 'deal with it is' by putting it in an exaggerated situation in order to highlight the pointlessness of the statement.

SkullDuggery191 votes

Always saying someone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. You must get beat up a lot IRL.

Kikirino2 votes

You are the only one I have eluded to being stupid. Keep being dramatic. It is a great look.

SkullDuggery192 votes

I think you mean alluded. Who's stupid now?

Kikirino1 votes

You are right. My apologies for using the wrong word. My point still stands nonetheless.

SkullDuggery191 votes

You should probably refrain from telling people to "learn to read" and calling them stupid when you use the wrong vocabulary. It detracts from your point, and is not a good look.

Kikirino1 votes

I have enjoyed this little back and forth or ours but, sadly, I must put an end to it. Nothing new is being said and it is just a vicious circle of I'm-right-No,-I'm-right and I am quickly loosing interest. Arguing grammar, vocabulary and who is stupid in a post that is in no way relevant to said argument is pointless anyway.

If you wish to continue this little debate feel free to return it to the original topic.

SkullDuggery192 votes

Then you should stop calling people stupid and not expecting them to respond in kind. You were the one trying to correct people, and now you're done because you got corrected. You threw this convo off base by resorting to attacks, rather than reasonable argument.

If it's pointless, then why did you do it?

Sadistic Cheese10 votes

I dunno, if I'M going to be forced to live up to standards of sportsmanlike conduct, why should anyone else get a free pass to not live up to those standards?

Guess what: it's just as easy to NOT insult someone as it is to ignore someone doing the insulting. Better still, it doesn't make the guy who's feeding angry, potentially turning him into a troll and making him ACTIVELY ruin the game instead of simply doing it out of ignorance. The ignorant guy trying his best may yet figure out he's screwing up and find a way to contribute. The Troll is never going to contribute.

Worst part? By yelling at him you've sealed your own fate. YOU brought it on yourself if he decides to troll. Oh sure, you can report him. But ask anyone who had a guy turn troll in promos or placements: reports don't let you go back and win that game.

Growing up doesn't mean taking abuse. It means not throwing abuse at other people to begin with. If I have to be an adult, why should I let you run around acting like an angry little pissant teenager who just discovered the Big Book of Naughty Words?

SkullDuggery197 votes

You are responsible for your own actions. This is growing up. If you troll in a game, I don't care that someone was toxic. YOU fucking trolled, YOU made that choice.

I am from a different era of video games. My teen years were spent talking shit while playing Street Fighter. I'm just not easily offended I guess. We also had to sit next to the person you were playing, so the shit talking only went so far, but I stand by my post.

Sadistic Cheese14 votes

I came from the same era. Just because it's what we used to do doesn't mean it was right. Nor does it mean we should do it now, or tolerate it now.

Your point doesn't compute, though. If I'm responsible for my own actions, then why are you not responsible for yours? If I'm responsible for playing badly, or for trolling. Okay. Then why are you not responsible for, when someone is genuinely having a bad game and NOT trolling, NOT being a baby and raging at them and telling them to hang themselves?

Again: If I have to have sportsmanlike conduct in all situations, why do YOU get a free pass because of someone else?

Don't gripe at me about the old days. The old days are gone. We weren't always right in the old days, in fact in a lot of ways we were wrong in the old days. Things change. Just because we did something before doesn't mean it's justification to keep doing it now when others clearly don't tolerate it.

SkullDuggery194 votes

They are responsible for their verbal abuse. We just saw a round of bans for verbal abusers. Can't say the same thing about trolls though. Does my point compute now Johnny 5?

I'm sorry to talk about my experiences with video games. I would have probably had you raging in "the old days," as you call them. Hyper sensitivity will get you nowhere in life. Now fuck off.

Zamiake2 votes

beautiful love it. Thats the way to tell him. Im tired of todays reactionary ideals. You know what here is an example. Im a bit of a workaholic. I worked at walmart. I did alot of extra work and i gave concise and prudent reports on things to my department manager when he would check up and ask about how things were going.

I was also much taller and larger then him. As i was the only male that wasnt extremely obese I was just naturally intemidating to him being the runt he was. Eventually he fired me for no real reason. Was i pissed off? hell yes. Did want to yell at him til he pissed him self? yes, but i didnt i had better things to do. I was better then him. This is the exact kind of feeling that causes the frustration in matchs. The players around the terrible player all know they are much better then him. The frustration is coming from being stuck with him. You can tell who the weak ones are within 5 minutes. Should be able to surrender by then.

The reason negativity is a problem in this game is because riot is discriminating just like this whole generation is. Negativity is needed for progress specially when a player is constantly doing the wrong thing. The problem stems from everyone saying "o you are doing so well" or "negativity never got anyone any where"

both of which are lies. Many of the most successful people have many motivations to not do many things due to the negative feedback of fans and family. The most recent generation is constantly under achieving, constantly under educated, under funded, and not understanding things. The reason is because none of them is really trying. Thats the differnce between them.

The young are constantly messing around. While the older people actually try

Sadistic Cheese5 votes

Funny....you say you were fired for no reason. Did he actually GIVE you one, and in your arrogance you decided it wasn't a real reason? In Retail work-ethic is amazing. Speaking as someone who's spent many years in it I LOVE it when I finally have a co-worker who can haul ass and do the job without complaints and whining or being lazy. I get sick of watching 18-20 year-olds wander on in, work hard for a few weeks, then just decide to stop and wander around the store doing nothing, making my work-load greater because they're lazy.

However work-ethic isn't all there is. If your attitude is shit, then after a point even your work-ethic loses value. I've known multiple people who were exactly that way: they worked their asses off, but their behavior is so rage-filled, obnoxious, or otherwise bad that it's just not worth it to keep them around because yeah, they work, but THEY DRIVE YOU NUTS DOING SO. They poison entire teams and departments with a shitty personality.

The comment about how you're taller and larger than him also make for interesting reading. Why is that even important? Bosses are bosses. Some are good, some are bad, some are incredibly inept. There's no unwritten rule that says you have to look like The Incredible Hulk to be a manager or supervisor.

As far as the current generation goes, maybe they're not trying because they weren't handed the tools? In my day the emphasis was always that we could shoot for the moon if we wanted to. They endlessly built up our egos to remind us that we could do anything as long as we got an education. Except...no one ever told us how to build the rocket.

The reason you see newer generations being apathetic is not just because of instant gratification and such, but because real life came crashing down on them and they were never prepared for it. We as a culture never prepared them for it. We just shunted them out of our shitty public school-systems and told them to make their own ways. We had a hand in our own problems. We crammed dull, dry, literary 'classics' down their throats so badly that now they won't even pick up a newspaper to see what's going on in the world. We made them take advanced mathematics and science, simply saying 'this is what you need to COMPETE!', without teaching them the real-world things that all that stuff quantifies. We forced them to learn, without teaching them HOW to learn, which includes but is not limited to learning from their mistakes.

I understand what you mean. I do. If I'm playing like shit, go ahead and press the button at 20. I'll be happy to surrender because I KNOW I'm playing like shit. But I know that. Raging at me isn't going to make things any better. Same goes for anyone else. Sure, pop the surrender button. If they don't surrender, then yeah, I can see where it sucks.

But don't sit there and tell them to hang themselves. It's just gonna make them defensive or play worse. Sure it's bad, but that's not even the worst point. You talk about not wasting time, right? That's literally wasting your time and your energy. Had you said nothing and simply raised the vote again after he died or you lost ANOTHER objective, he might have said yes. Instead you called him some profane names and now he's either trolling or raging back at you and REFUSING to surrender. Good job, you're now wasting more time, and it's your fault as much as his.

Phenomenomnomnom2 votes

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Funny....you say you were fired for no reason. Did he actually GIVE you one, and in your arrogance you decided it wasn't a real reason? In Retail work-ethic is amazing. Speaking as someone who's spent many years in it I LOVE it when I finally have a co-worker who can haul ass and do the job without complaints and whining or being lazy. I get sick of watching 18-20 year-olds wander on in, work hard for a few weeks, then just decide to stop and wander around the store doing nothing, making my work-load greater because they're lazy.

However work-ethic isn't all there is. If your attitude is shit, then after a point even your work-ethic loses value. I've known multiple people who were exactly that way: they worked their asses off, but their behavior is so rage-filled, obnoxious, or otherwise bad that it's just not worth it to keep them around because yeah, they work, but THEY DRIVE YOU NUTS DOING SO. They poison entire teams and departments with a shitty personality.

IMO if you work your ass off in retail you are just dumb as a person. They don't pay you enough for what you're put through. And you might think it's easy work and you're just lazy if you don't do it, but we have a higher standard of living now. If you're dealing with angry or depressed people, that takes a toll on you emotionally, and if you're hauling ass there is value in your ability to exert the physical energy. Sorry, but getting paid 8 bucks an hour for that shit is not worth it. Large corporations have turned near-minimum-wage retail into modern day slave labor.

I used to bust my ass when I was a kid, and I remember thinking of how easy it was and wondered why so many people were just lazy and didn't want to do the work. I was happy to do the work. Then I grew out of being a stupid, naive kid, and realized what my labor was worth. It's nice being dumb, retarded people can be the happiest in the world. When you're smart and realize you're busting your ass for 8 dollars an hour by a corporation that's using you like a slave, how can you bust your ass at that point? You can't, unless you're an idiot.

Moll1 votes

I talk to 120-160 people a day and people think this game is toxic :P RL is worst

OdinLightning2 votes

Retail isn't that bad, and it's not like you're busting your ass for no reason. I got promoted to a manager position with a $2 raise after only 3 and a half months of working 40 hours of my own schedule and pulling in 10-15 hours overtime a week covering people that call out or are on vacation. I also made it very well-known that I wanted to move forward with my career in retail and my managers helped me realize that goal and I'm only 23 years old. So I'm stupid for working hard for my goal in retail which is now funding my goal of finishing school and furthering my career even more? Isn't working hard the proper way to achieve your goals?

As for the negativity in-game, my opinion is very trollish and mean. All of it comes from 40 year old virgins or 16 year old virgins that are sneaking bad language in while mommy isn't looking. A real team player does not rage or troll or otherwise verbally assault someone for any reason. If it's someone still learning you help them, add them as a friend and invite them to some custom games or co-op games to help teach them. If it's a bot or a legitimate troll just ignore them and report it after the match. You can still win a 4v5 match, and it's only happened once but I've also won a 2v5 match because the team crashed.

Zamiake1 votes

Doesnt matter in my opinion. If your generally terrible in a game you just shouldnt play it. Specially if you are new and just die constantly. Poor judgement skills will just ruins the game and if you cant judge anything then you should play anything ever

also saying things like "because things change we should bow to this rubish ideal of being sportsman like in non competeive play" is complete crook and you seriously need to think about it.

Why should any unranked matchs have to abide by sportsmen like anything if most the dicks in there are assholes to begin with? SPECIALLY when you can be a big of asshole as you want and just make a smurf when ever you like. Save the sportsman rubbish for ranked

DrCyanide10 votes

I'm convinced the mark of a good game is one you can be terrible at but still enjoy.

We all know League's tutorial system is garbage and you need to use outside resources to even figure out half the mechanics of the game, but we didn't when starting out, and many still don't after hitting level 30. Rather than yell at them for not having figured it out, be a real man and teach them. Show them you understand the game and help make them and the community better.

It's easy to be a jerk. It's a lot harder to be a force for change.

Narasimha1 votes

If your generally terrible in a game you just shouldnt play it.

By this logic no one would have ever played Dark Souls.

Wheatloaf4 votes

Also by that logic, bronze and silver probably shouldn't exist.

CaesarFlickerman2 votes

"Again: If I have to have sportsmanlike conduct in all situations, why do YOU get a free pass because of someone else?"

Agree, but this also applies to the terrible player.

Takedown Ninja3 votes

and you're in person on the basketball court if I might add. You'd get punched in the face for talking shit haha.

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