Both are insanely toxic and irritating to play with, nice people off the game but in the game when they get Riven literally do nothing but talk shit to the enemy team and their team etc.
Not only that but they both try to defend her when I tell them her kit is overloaded as fuck
Mecha MaIphite8 votesHonestly, I think my attitude depends a lot on the champion I play. When I play a carry like Jax or Talon, I get frustrated easily, and even though I don't type it in chat, I blame my team for everything. When I play Malphite and Shen, I usually acknowledge my own mistakes and focus more on myself.
When I play Mundo, I just dick around.
Ra1d1 votesYou should see me as shaco....."why soserious"
GastonBarnacles1 votesI am like you except I blame the enemy for having op champs or for getting ganked and the enemy being noobs that 2v1 even though I am happy when my jungler ganks for me. Cant help myself. I do it much less than before. Now when I die I just think whatever.
Emperor Cynric5 votesriven players are scum
Blade of Justic4 votesDo they, by any chance, call her "the most balanced and successful champion design in the game" and "in need of some buffs."?
Trash MammaI2 votesI main Shaco and one of them was calling me a douche for it because she hates Shaco, I told her I hate Riven and that champ needs to be gutted. She argued that Shaco is more broken and OP than Riven and Shaco can do everything she does but better etc. etc. and said Riven could use buffs if anything and Shaco needed to be gutted because of his Q.
I told her to buy a pink ward she told me brb afk and hasn't been back since, this was about an hour ago
Ra1d1 votesShaco can kick rivens ass but hes a squishy assassin. He has very little cc
kJs1 votesI argue Shaco's got strong CC with his fear. It has stronger AoE and he can place it down quickly to stop people chasing him.
Ra1d2 votesI agree he has a good cc ability but i dont consider it strong. 1 it has a delay because his boxes need time to become hidden like teemo shrooms. 2 the duration for his fear is very short although by the time you begin the chase again he probably hit q. His boxes are potentially strong and the cc provided can potentially be used to turn fights into the users favor but its not always that way. More reluable fears could be fiddlesticks e or volibears aoe fear. Im not shacos is bad but there are examples of strong fears. Also he has a slow on his e but thats another story.
kJs1 votesI disagree, Shaco's boxes can compete with Fiddlesticks if the Shaco manages to place them well. Fiddle stick's fear isn't AoE but of course the reliability of the whole champion's kit really needs to be accounted for and Fiddle sticks easily wins because of his multi-target silence and much strong AoE presence.
Ra1d1 votesYoure right also i made a mistake in thinking fiddlesticks e caused fear when it actually silences. His q is thw fear and thinking about it is less useful bwcause fiddlesticks has to be close to implement it.
KingWanahakalugi3 votesI don't know what it is about Riven. I've been trying to play her to learn her kit better and learn the little counterplay she has. I never talk shit in game. In fact, I rarely talk to anyone. I'll ping if I need to communicate with my team, but when I was playing Riven, I started talking shit to the other team. Now, it wasn't really offensive or verbal abuse anymore than they communicated to us. It was just trash talk like you might do playing sports, but I never feel like doing it unless I'm playing Riven. I don't know if it's something about her kit or what.
MistaMac1 votesIn other words you could say "her kit is toxic" hurrhurrhurr
Outkkast2 votesI don't know what it is about Riven. I've been trying to play her to learn her kit better and learn the little counterplay she has. I never talk shit in game. In fact, I rarely talk to anyone. I'll ping if I need to communicate with my team, but when I was playing Riven, I started talking shit to the other team. Now, it wasn't really offensive or verbal abuse anymore than they communicated to us. It was just trash talk like you might do playing sports, but I never feel like doing it unless I'm playing Riven. I don't know if it's something about her kit or what.
You caught Rivtoxitus. A deadly disease that causes your fingers to shift-enter and type obscenities.
MakeABronziesDay3 voteswhy do you have to bring Riven into an argument concerning your friends behavior in game? These 2 things literally have nothing in common.
Trash MammaI2 votesYou must be new here
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesI never smack talk to other people. If I'm in a call with my friends, and I'm playing my main (Quinn), and I completely burst the enemy ADC in seconds, I am kinda pretentious. If you really know a champion, it goes to your head a little when you completely destroy the other person
Trash MammaI1 votesThat's me with Shaco, I start dicking around and just being so uncaring and still grab triples and I just type in all chat /all lol? only to realize how fed I am. Feels bad sometimes when someone goes devourer and you end up making them like 0/8 they're just so useless then
AntiSkillshot2 votesI still get flustered when people say Riven has an overloaded kit. Last I checked, she doesn't have an armor shred, nor does she have sustain. And, no, shields aren't sustain.
Yeah, sure, she's got annoying damage, but that's what you get when you have the lowest health regen in the game.
Trash MammaI6 votesP: Mini Sheen Q: 3 dashes, 3 damage abilities, an AoE knockup W: AoE stun E: Dash, shield(ad scaling) R: AD steroid, range increase, AoE execute
Considering she can buy brutalizer and lw and basically ignore all armor bought I don't think it matters much about armor shred and she has no sustain till she gets vamp scepter, yes, it's an item and not apart of her kit but there's no reason she should be able to remove any weakness she has with a few items.
Also she had to get nerfed because she had one of the best HP regains in the game.
AntiSkillshot2 votes[{quoted}](name=Simple Tora,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=NiEzJcAm,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-10-02T23:02:53.358+0000)
P: Mini Sheen Q: 3 dashes, 3 damage abilities, an AoE knockup W: AoE stun E: Dash, shield(ad scaling) R: AD steroid, range increase, AoE execute
Considering she can buy brutalizer and lw and basically ignore all armor bought I don't think it matters much about armor shred and she has no sustain till she gets vamp scepter, yes, it's an item and not apart of her kit but there's no reason she should be able to remove any weakness she has with a few items.
Also she had to get nerfed because she had one of the best HP regains in the game.
Ah, yes. The ol' "OP on paper" tactic. I've been around since Season 1, I'm aware of this tactic. Hardly works. As you can make EVERYONE OP, just by saying what their abilities do but not deal.
Edit: Oh look, downvotes. Not surprising.
Trash MammaI5 votesI didn't say anything about OP I said overloaded, she has too much in her kit that's a fact.
AntiSkillshot1 votes[{quoted}](name=Simple Tora,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=NiEzJcAm,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-03T00:24:58.210+0000)
I didn't say anything about OP I said overloaded, she has too much in her kit that's a fact.
She's not overload. She really isn't. If you want to see overloaded, look at Fiora and Darius. Which, looks like the majority of the playerbase agrees. Being as those two are the most banned champions in the game at present.
Trash MammaI2 votesDarius's weakness is and always has been ranged champs. The thought behind him, while I agree is stupid, is that he is never suppose to catch you and if he does you pay hard for it.
Rivens weakness are champs like Garen/Renekton champs who can keep her from doing her combo and preventing retaliation or someone like Gnar or Kennen who don't rely on mana and can deal with her lack of resource with their own.
Olaf is to be considered a hard counter but it's more of a skill matchup imo.
HayRoss1 votesWho says that all 3 aren't overloaded?
AntiSkillshot1 votesWho says that all 3 aren't overloaded?
No idea. I don't see Riven as overloaded, as she lacks built-in sustain and shred to accompany her mobility and high damage. But, hey. That's how I see things.
I do, however, remember when people complained that Atrox was overloaded. Now that was something.
HayRoss2 votesI wasn't saying so much "Riven is overloaded" but saying "Because Fiora and Darius are overloaded, Riven can't be" is a false statement
Looking back on it, I really just misread your original comment
AntiSkillshot1 votesI wasn't saying so much "Riven is overloaded" but saying "Because Fiora and Darius are overloaded, Riven can't be" is a false statement
Looking back on it, I really just misread your original comment
Let me put it this way. I see they things that can make a champion overload. Shred, Mobility, Sustain, and High Damage are some of those. If a champion as three of these in high numbers, they're probably overloaded. This is why I see Darius and Fiora as more overloaded than Riven (If she is at all). Are there some that could be considered overloaded have less than three? Yeah, sure (I'm looking at you Kalista and Garen). They're just unlikely in my eyes.
Just going to say one last thing. The last time I actually "Played" Riven, was back in Season 2. Now there, I'll agree she was broken then. Now? I'd disagree.
Edit: I like how no one mentioned that I was partially wrong about Riven having the lowest health regen in the game.
HayRoss2 votesGaren being "Overloaded"? How?
AntiSkillshot1 votesGaren being "Overloaded"? How?
I don't know. I'm "Looking" at Garen, because of his win rate. I hardly think he's actually overloaded. In all seriousness. His health regen with his passive is pretty crazy. But, that's about it. Which is why I hardly think he's actually overloaded. It's still interesting his got 53.3% win rate.
HayRoss2 votesSorry, I'm a Garen main, and it pains me to see all these people complaining about his movespeed, silence and damage reduction, when they were all nerfed rather heavily during the rework
Guardian45851 votesall Riven mains are the same. "Riven is so balanced" yea even though you can play with 1 hand and be blind folded andstill geta penta at lvl1 1v5.
Riven is the embodyment of salt. in all honesty I dont see why Riot hasnt made Salt Queen Riven. No matter how nice the person is in lobby or irl. once they get their hands on Riven they are so salty your pretzels are salted to the finest. if you have a friend who mains Riven give them 2 options. either A learn a better champion and stop acting like their better than everyone or B they keep playing Riven and you never acknowledge their existence ever again.
odds are youll lose a couple of salt lords.
Dark Trennow1 votesRiven mains being Riven mains. Not surprising and I'm sure they are getting ready to rush the boards to oblivion if it means not getting the edge changes removed.
Dunkrius2g1 votesWell here is some good news. They will be less toxic if the changes for Riven go through.
DB Gaming1 votesI'd say the biggest problem with Riven is her mobility. Get rid of those dashes that go with her Q and E and we've got a much more balanced champion. Once she has a bit of CDR it's impossible to catch her... the only time you really get to fight Riven is when Riven wants to fight you... and that's pretty stupid.
I played Udyr with MS quints and level 2 boots and it was impossible to catch her. It's like yeah you bear stance flashed at her... but she just E QQQ'ed her ass half way up the lane so... yeah. She started at our inner turret mid, I bear stance and flash practically out of the bushes by raptors but riven just QQQ E spams laugh QQQ E and I give up what is obviously a hopeless chase.
There is literally no other champion in this game that brings out that sweet toxicity more than Riven. Most other champions when you get owned by them you can go okay I misplayed here or there, I could've outplayed this or that, juked here when I didn't...etc... With Riven it's like okay.. she's F*&%ing broken. Even after they fixed that bug that like EVERY riven player used and abused to reset their Q CD... she's still broke as hell imo.
kJs1 votes
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She will simply snare you if you manage to catch up to her Distortions she will snare you and laugh at your face.
. When he carefully places his Jack in the Boxes in bushes. You can't chase him, there is no point. You will actually get killed by all the boxes if Shaco decides to go AP.
has to run away because she will die with how squishy she is. She has to dodge everything or else she will get killed. She's like a Yasuo without a Windwall to rely on.
Lugg1 votesI find it hard to believe Riven mains have friends at all. LOL
Sixshooter141 votesI fought against a Riven main. It was not fun. I got rekt.
Skunt1 votesWhenever I roll Riven in ARAM, I get this immediate subconscious urge to start flaming everyone. Then after the game, I feel ashamed of myself for playing her as all Riven players should.