Why the fuck would you deny someone just because they pick off meta or a weak pick?
Had a captain deny a Lucian after waiting a solid 11 minutes because "Lucian is trash now." AND?! YOUR POINT?! We are sick of waiting. Beggars can't be choosers. Had a captain deny an Ori support because she isn't a support after waiting forever... please sir, I just want to play.
IllllllIIIIlllll4 votesexactly this. I accepted a teemo jungle and spent the next 10 minutes searching for a support + adc that wouldn't insta leave our group.
Eternal Nocturne1 votesAlways have ADC's insta leave if it isnt a full group, highly upsetting, good thing ADC's are easy as fuck to find.
IcyPepper1 votesProbably because they want to be lucky and get a team with a support already in it :/
Silver Fluffenbu4 votesi won't play team builder just to play a specific champ, because the wait times are stupid long. but, i will play blind pick because call order
T RexHasTinyArms1 votesAs long as you don't complain about people's behavior in champ select of blind pick I'm definitely down w/ you there. However, if you're raging about the way people act, then just play team builder where you don't have people locking the role you want or whatever. Personally I almost never play blind, but when I do I'll usually play a champ I want to and just fill whatever role the team needs. Some people fuss about that bc "what the hell did you insta lock for I just called mid you fuck" and apparently "no worries man, you can have mid, I'll play heimer top, or since that guy just locked top and asked for it I can play heimer bot and support or sub for an adc since w/ have ad top and mid" is not an okay approach to blind pick.
Killer of Poros2 votesI just hate teambuilders matchmaking. It assumes that the diamond playing another champ besides their main isn't going to stomp all over a bronze or silver.
Eternal Nocturne1 votesThat's usually due to people duo queing or whatever therefore it doesnt really take that into mind. I play with a diamond guy a lot and all of me and my friends that play with us are silver so we always get matched with other silvers. However keep in mind one person doesn't make the game, one diamond will still die in team fights as long as you are smart.
PL552 votesThat's just some idiot captains, most captains who have played team builder for a while will accept any jungler, support, or adc as long as it isn't complete troll like soraka jungle or elise adc.
IcyPepper1 votesWhy does everyone insult Soraka jungle? ;~;
Auroramancer1 votesBecause a pick whose only merit is an unforeseeable global ult is pretty much shit
IcyPepper1 votesDrive-by heals?
Silence aoe against mobile midlaners so your midlaner can get that quick burst in?
Passive helps you save laners that might die? :/
I did it once and it was okay... didn't think it was just the ult, isn't that what top lane Soraka was for back in the day?
Hyrum Graff2 votesHad a captain deny an Ori support because she isn't a support
>Low-cd, low-mana shield that gives resists -> auto-win any trade >Speed boost & slow >Hard CC ult >Permanent bush ward so you can use your trinkets for the river
Not a support my ass; I love playing ori supp.
Mistral1 votesLucian isn't so bad right now, I have been shredded by a few lately. Anyway, not the point. XD
I love teambuilder, if you're having a hard time finding a role to play you can always build your own as well. I used to feel that teambuilder groups were generally for trying new things or a good way to practice a specific champion/role. I do know the feels though when you allow something weird like teemo jungle, and people leave. The wait is still not near as bad as it was a few months ago. I'm rambling sorry.
TLDR; I agree!
50000000000000001 votesDamn, if only thing you care about is winning go play ranked. Anywhere else, don't complain unless they're going AP Zed.
Retillin1 votesIt's because current "Team Builder" is a failed idea. We saw the same thing in World of Warcraft. The queue times are so out of sync because not every roll is as "fun" across the board as the rest. Top/Mid have tons of people playing them. Support/Jungle require someone who is okay not being the "l337" hypercarry. And ADC is totally random. Some days a lot of them, other days it takes forever to find one.
I know this isn't popular, but they need to just delete "Team Builder" as an idea. It doesn't prevent trolls, you are still going to get Varius "support" because someone just wants to play him. People need to just accept than draft/blind pick at least forces people to play other roles.
Spizzle90001 votesYou have a valid point, but, some people don't want to risk losing because of meta breakers. Not all instances of meta-breaking fail, but some do. Such as full AP Zed or full AD Vladimir.
UnlimitedNinja411 votesAnyone wanna tell me how Lucian is weak? I mean, I thought he was really good?
56552559_DEL1 votesI can actually understand it to a point.
My friend and i have a list of champs for roles that we will flat out kick or not choose.
We do that because every time one of those champs comes up and we pick them, the player is just so horrible and we end up losing every time.
Eternal Nocturne1 votes
not a support????? What the hell?? She's great at support, shes got damage, cc, a shield that also gives MR/armor and her ball acts as a ward as well.
I will agree, team builder has stupid long wait times in terms of supports but i dont mind it seeing as I get to jungle every game with no one fighting me for it:)
Sassmast3r1 votesAnd you wonder what the shortage of ADC's and Supports is caused by? Take a wild guess. I LOVE Anivia support but only do it on the PBE because I'd never actually get to be in a real team builder game with that, and draft pick/blind pick?! Please.
NFOvlWU4cZ1 votesJust finished playing a game with Anivia support on my team. She did surprising well ! Tho it was a stomp and we won not sure if that shows what she is truly capable of XD
Sassmast3r1 votesIt's not that she actually isn't capable, it's that people don't think she does because they're so acclimated to meta champions being on their team or against them and figure "Hey, they're doing well, I want more of that!" "Ew, Anivia support? No I want to win, why not Thresh? Please?"
NFOvlWU4cZ1 votesExactly ! also the fact that not a lot of of people know how to play and utilize anivia very well. Her sieging power is incredible.
Leetri1 votesA couple of months ago it took me just over an hour to get into a Team Builder game as mid Ez. People are so meta-enforcing it's ridiculous.
Only Play Darius1 votesIf you were packing 
then I don't blame them.
Leetri1 votesThis was months before Runeglaive even was a thing. Just normal AP Ez. Managed to win a 4v5 that game because I'd 2 shot anyone on the enemy team, which was funny because I got kicked from so many teams because they thought AP Ez was bad.
Only Play Darius1 votesFunny how TB was originally designed to facilitate meta-breaking in an environment where everyone would be fine with it, but instead it enforces the meta harder than any of the other game modes because people can kick anything that is the slightest bit off-meta.
NFOvlWU4cZ1 votesFacilitating meta breaking environment wasn't the main focus that riot wanted to achieve with team builder. It was creating a game mode that would allow everyone to play the role they wanted to avoid trolling/feeding and toxicity.
Biffolo1 votesThen why don't you switch lobbies? I don't really play teambuilder, but if for whatever reason I'm forced to, I'll wait 15 minutes for legit strong champions.
NFOvlWU4cZ1 votesThis is probably because the enemy team you will face will most likely have op champs and if your team has weak picks/ off meta there's a high chance you will lose ( people hate losing ) because the match wont be even as your weaker. Don't get me wrong sometimes off meta/weaker champion picks can work and you can win but lets be honest this would happen if the enemy team who picked the op champs are either bad/ not playing seriously or trolling :P I mean sure you can say that you don't care about win or lose you just wanna have fun but I dont think its fun when you play a game and get stomped first 20 minutes ( which is most likely to happen given your weaker/ off meta picks vs the op champs ). On a side note tho how do you have the patience to wait 11 minutes in team builder XD
WhiskerWow1 votesI waited for 25 minutes just to get into a queue as AP Varus... :(
Blind pick is actually more tolerant of unmeta-picks. No one questions what you're doing there.
doiminat0r36001 votesOri is a support.... It says it on her card. 
