10 years ago, not even HALF the shit that Riot pulls would have them laughed out of the industry, and Beck / Merril / Ma would never be able to start another game without everyone expecting a repeat, basically preventing them from ever creating another game / company.
What changed?
TyrekGoldenspear4 votesGive it a rest dude. The world has changed. The economy has changed. The rules have changed.
Get over it.
Niyumi1 votesMmk. Let's take whatever it is you enjoy that you've enjoyed for most of your life, and just rip it away from you because of money. And then we'll give it back, but it'll be basically a frankenstein monster and a shell of its former self.
Imagine that, and then just imagine me saying to "get over it."
TyrekGoldenspear3 votesThat's your opinion of it. And guess what, it isn't at all valid just because you think it is.
And guess what else? I've seen what kind of posts you make in Player behavior and Moderation. You don't get to use the moral high ground argument when flaming Riot. You don't get to call out greed. You are the most bitter person I have ever seen on these boards, and no self-respecting company is going to change just because of what YOU want.
Get. Over. It.
Niyumi1 votesThe posts I make in... what? I've made maybe one or two posts in that forum since I started playing this game like two and a half years ago.
And, you know, I wouldn't be bitter if the one and only thing I really enjoyed wasn't taken away from me so that greedy assholes could milk more money out of the idiots that inhabit this planet.
When I can look at a massively profitable and successful company like Nintendo turn down all kinds of business deals that would have made TONS of money so that they can stick to what's right (Before Iwata and Yamauchi died anyway), and when I can watch indie devs do that same thing... then I can call Riot greedy all I want, because comparatively they are.
See, Riot is one of the newer kinds of companies, where money is the one and only thing they care about. Used to be you made money based on how much effort you put into your product, and how much quality it had. Nowadays, people pay for literal garbage (like, uh, you know Edison's lightbulb? Yeah, still burning how many years later?) -- ever hear of planned obsolescence? In gaming, people used to expect quality. They would laugh at you if you tried to push garbage onto people, and you'd go out of business. Then the gimme generation showed up, and since they lack any kind of mental capacity, they can't recognize shit for what it is, and throw money at bad companies anyway. Activision wasn't always bad, nor was EA -- but that all changed.
So, if Riot actually put quality above all else, like they say they do, then a lot of things would change. But, since that was a lie, and money is actually the only thing they care about, nothing will change for the better.
TyrekGoldenspear4 votesAnd, you know, I wouldn't be bitter if the one and only thing I really enjoyed wasn't taken away from me so that greedy assholes could milk more money out of the idiots that inhabit this planet.
They took nothing from you, get over yourself. The old games are still there if you want to stay there.
When I can look at a massively profitable and successful company like Nintendo turn down all kinds of business deals that would have made TONS of money so that they can stick to what's right (Before Iwata and Yamauchi died anyway), and when I can watch indie devs do that same thing... then I can call Riot greedy all I want, because comparatively they are.
Nintendo could afford to do that because they were already successful. What deals has Riot even done? You are comparing apples to oranges here. Nintendo made standalone console games, Riot doesn't. Stop comparing them.
See, Riot is one of the newer kinds of companies, where money is the one and only thing they care about. Used to be you made money based on how much effort you put into your product, and how much quality it had. Nowadays, people pay for literal garbage (like, uh, you know Edison's lightbulb? Yeah, still burning how many years later?) -- ever hear of planned obsolescence? In gaming, people used to expect quality. They would laugh at you if you tried to push garbage onto people, and you'd go out of business. Then the gimme generation showed up, and since they lack any kind of mental capacity, they can't recognize shit for what it is, and throw money at bad companies anyway. Activision wasn't always bad, nor was EA -- but that all changed.
Gimme generation? Gimme a break. You're in that same generation genius, and you don't get to decide what quality and garbage is. League was built by an indie company, they didn't have the resources to do a AAA grade game then. Now they are building on top of said game, it's not like if they rebuilt the game from the ground up.
Calling people idiots doesn't help you at all when you can't deal with classes in video games that plenty of people can.
So, if Riot actually put quality above all else, like they say they do, then a lot of things would change. But, since that was a lie, and money is actually the only thing they care about, nothing will change for the better.
Way to be generic so you can't be called out.
Niyumi1 votesThey took nothing from you, get over yourself. The old games are still there if you want to stay there.
Riot themselves didn't, but greedy assholes like Beck in every other company did. And you can only play the same games so many times before you know them all by heart and they're just not enjoyable anymore.
Nintendo could afford to do that because they were already successful. What deals has Riot even done? You are comparing apples to oranges here. Nintendo made standalone console games, Riot doesn't. Stop comparing them.
Deal 1: Making an F2P game in the first place.
Deal 2: Selling out to Chinese greed-fest Tencent.
And I can compare business practices, can't I? They're both companies that develop games.
Gimme generation? Gimme a break. You're in that same generation genius, and you don't get to decide what quality and garbage is.
When I say gimme generation, I'm not talking about the literal generation that I am in fact a part of (barely). I'm talking about the "gamers" that are between 8-15ish years old that started gaming when EA, Activision, Sony and all them started spewing garbage everywhere. They didn't play the older games growing up, and they don't know how much we've lost in terms of quality.
If I went and modernized just about any of the classics, and then set someone down to play both that game and the newest in its series, the older game would win every time. If you wanna be anal about it, you can look at things (mostly) objectively.
Older games had longer, more thought-out stories.
Older games had larger worlds, despite tighter hardware boundaries.
Older games had more immersive combat / puzzle solving.
Older games were usually more challenging (note that challenging and punishing are NOT the same thing)
Older games didn't have content ripped out to be branded DLC a week after release.
Older MMOs didn't make money off cash shops, and instead made money off of people playing their game.
OIder games did not reward incompetence, and instead expected you to earn what you wanted.
I could go on for a while, but you get the idea. Most of these can be applied to League as well.
Calling people idiots doesn't help you at all when you can't deal with classes in video games that plenty of people can.
Yi runs up and clicks on you. One of four things happens:
He does more damage than you, and he wins.
You do more damage than him, and you win.
Nothing happens since it's a stalemate statcheck.
You CC him until he dies.
There is literally zero counterplay to a statcheck like Yi. That's why he's called a statcheck in the first place. You either win automatically, or lose automatically. Nearly all the champs I complain about are, you guessed it, braindead statchecks or braindead clickers.
Way to be generic so you can't be called out.
I mean you can go look through my post history and find a book's worth of suggestions that are entirely ignored.
Paquay1 votesUhh, you just described everything ever. Things change, people change, times change. Either companies and people adapt or they get left behind and forgotten.
Angrychickén3 votesExamples?
Niyumi2 votesUh, every shitty WoW clone MMO that popped up around BC / Wrath (Runes of Magic / Allods are good examples), half the FPS games that popped up in that time frame (Warrock is a good example, the cheesy Battlefield clone), a lot of shitty console games that just stopped existing (Usually cheesy games "based" on movies), etc.
Paquay3 votesAnd yet they are the most profitable and most popular video game out there.
Obviously they've done something right.