Bard has a 39% winrate

Kikirino··9 votes·1,520 views

I kind of prefer when champions are op on release... at least when one is on my team my teams moral doesn't immediately tank. At least someone can pick an op release champion and not be called a troll before the match even starts.

I mean, has anyone had a shittier release than Bard? Has anyone been as useless as Bard? Has anyone picked Bard and not been flamed for it? Riot, please don't ever let this kind of champion happen again.

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LoL Ergo Urgot8 votes

The reason one plays Bard is two fold.

  1. They like to have the hatred of their team bearing down upon them.

  2. They think lol is too easy and need a challenge.

phirestarter6 votes
  1. They are completely baked.
LoL Ergo Urgot2 votes

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  1. They are completely baked.

hahahahahahhaa

XeroKimo3 votes

Pantheon ?

phirestarter3 votes

Wow, really, that is so much higher than I expected...

Kikirino2 votes

Sadly, I thought the same thing.

phirestarter3 votes

Thing is, after nerfing Zilean, they needed to provide a replacement for the stoner community, that could be played with one hand, and would seem perfectly normal to just disappear for large periods at a time...

Captain Aishi3 votes

release lucian was 'bard levels of bad' as far as i remember, release nami was pretty awkward to play too

Kouga2 votes

You know who else was called useless after her release? Kalista

You know who has gotten more QQ than anyone (excluding Lee Swin)? Kalista

I've seen Bards who know what they're doing, and they can set up their team like no one's business. However he is a very selective pick, so he's going to suffer in soloQ where no one can coordinate and rarely does anyone consider team comp.

Kikirino3 votes

I don't remember Kalista being called useless. And her QQ is because she is annoying as fuck to face and support.

1011001110003 votes

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You know who else was called useless after her release? Kalista

You know who has gotten more QQ than anyone (excluding Lee Swin)? Kalista

I've seen Bards who know what they're doing, and they can set up their team like no one's business. However he is a very selective pick, so he's going to suffer in soloQ where no one can coordinate and rarely does anyone consider team comp.

Kalista became op because someone figured out a better build path that capitalized on her passive that wasn't "rush IE or lose".

Bard is plagued by a shitty early game coupled with the fact that part of his damage output/cc (meep cone slow and scaling) are gated by chime spawns. It just feels like so much power is front-loaded into Bard's ult that the rest of his kit has to be really iffy by comparison.

His Cosmic Binding is also really unreliable when trying to land the stun because hotboxes.

phirestarter1 votes

As a teemo, I just plant my shrooms over his chimes... gg ez.

kile1471 votes

I'm pretty sure that people were complaining about Kalista as soon as a CertainlyT champ was announced. Her numbers have never been the issue, under or over powered she is always toxic because of her infinite dashes and that's what all the QQ is about.

arcinex2 votes

Soraka is pretty useless

Kikirino5 votes

I rock a 77% winrate with her. Be nice to her.

arcinex2 votes

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I rock a 77% winrate with her. Be nice to her.

Sample size too small

Kikirino5 votes

I know (I never get to brag about my Soraka winrate. Give me this one time) but she is far from useless. She has a 49% winrate. That is pretty damn balanced.

arcinex3 votes

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I know (I never get to brag about my Soraka winrate. Give me this one time) but she is far from useless. She has a 49% winrate. That is pretty damn balanced.

:D

Well sir you have a pretty dam high winrate with Soraka and I applaud you.

gr8job1 votes

Soraka is still good at the things she's supposed to be good at. And her ult will always prevent her from being useless. Forever and always.

arcinex1 votes

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Soraka is still good at the things she's supposed to be good at. And her ult will always prevent her from being useless. Forever and always.

Soraka ult is useless in low elos where your teammates are prone to being caught out rather than sticking with the team.

Sukishoo1 votes

She is awesome if you know how to use her.

arcinex1 votes

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She is awesome if you know how to use her.

Yes I know this. I've seen some really amazing play with her, but I have only seen her be successful in higher elos where people know how to utilize her kit.

ujf2qEqxi91 votes

Well, since he is OP, then your preference is fulfilled...

I pick Bard and don't get flamed for it... Bard is OP as shit. In fact, by the end of the season, you'll see bard played top lane and jungle.

Kikirino1 votes

Do you have anything to back up this claim or is it just wild opinion? Checked your ranked play and you have 0 Bard matches.

Akeydel1 votes

i just wanna play my dingaling :( Bard

Bard in a Diaper1 votes

they need to make it so his Q doesnt hit minions, like ezrael W. The champion is literally unplayable because of this. All the opposing bot lane has to do is stand in the minion wave and all you can do is auto attack. its worthless range is a problem too but it would be too strong if you increased the range as well.

Sukishoo1 votes

No... If they are behind minions and happens to be just one between the champion he can snare them as it hit a minion and a champion. It's very useful if you know how to use it.

YouLostMe1 votes

Remember release LeeSin and Lucian, or post-rework Rengar? Everybody was building wrong, playing wrong, saying the champ was so weak. And then people start to learn good build paths or good playstyles, and the QQ turned on its head.

It will happen again. And again. And again. And I doubt people will ever learn.

Kikirino1 votes

It only took about a week for people to figure out builds and play styles for those champions.

Bard has been out how long and is still considered a troll/useless pick? I have never seen someone happy about Bard being on their team.

Risurin1 votes

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I kind of prefer when champions are op on release... at least when one is on my team my teams moral doesn't immediately tank. At least someone can pick an op release champion and not be called a troll before the match even starts.

I mean, has anyone had a shittier release than Bard? Has anyone been as useless as Bard? Has anyone picked Bard and not been flamed for it? Riot, please don't ever let this kind of champion happen again.

closest i can think off might be quinn. lucian and yasuo on release werent that great until later buffs. Bard overall has an interesting concept, but i dont know how great it is really and i think his chime collecting could be improved.

Krigjer1 votes

I think Bard's biggest downfall is that no one bothered to learn how to play WITH him on their team. Most people I team with aren't fully aware of what his kit does, or how he works. It's like when Thresh released and no one took his lantern at first because they didn't know, except it's for every ability Bard has.

Fasmodey1 votes

Syndra was %25 winrate at release. And she was keeping it until her buffs.

fakelink1 votes

His ult is maybe the hardest ult in the game to use... not to say it isn't exceptionally powerful, but it has no margin of error. I have saved my adc from a three person gank by ulting all three of the enemy while not ulting my adc (and i feel like a god). I have also ulted the enemy thinking i was setting up a great engage only to have zed deathmark someone right before my ult lands meaning i not only cancel out his ult but also trap him in the middle of the enemy team...

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