The difference betwene shaco mains and nidalee mains

SwiftKitten88·Feb 17, 2017·1 votes·1,349 views

my champions has a 55% winrate.. it's trash, buff plz "gets downvoted into oblivion"

my champions has a 42% winrate.. it's trash, buff plz "gets downvoted into oblivion"

15 Comments

RookPusherFeb 17, 20171 votes

Whatever point you were trying to make sailed past me like a Nidalee spear.

SwiftKitten88Feb 17, 20171 votes

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Whatever point you were trying to make sailed past me like a Nidalee spear.

the difference is the winrate they have when they are asking for the buffs...

oSEXYPLATYPUSoFeb 17, 20171 votes

but what is your win rate on nid?

a win rate on a champ you main... isnt the same as a general win rate.

i could be a one trick urgot main with a 78% win rate... when over he is in a bad spot...

so that being said you are 13 and 19 with nid for a 41% win rate ...

just gonna throw this out there... if you were a better player maybe you would have a better win rate?

MaeDoSanFeb 17, 20171 votes

So basically a champ being bad is never an option only the players can be bad ?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoFeb 18, 20171 votes

there is a difference from a "MAIN" and just people who play a champ

there are mains of all kinds of champs in high elo regardless of the champs over all win rate

one tricks all over the place

its cuz they are also individually good at the game and really good at the champ...

for example there is a nunu player in EUW who is one trick ap nunu top with a 52% win rate on the champ and is plat ranked

where as nunu over all http://champion.gg/champion/Nunu (jungle, no other stats provided cuz he isnt played ) has a 49.23% win rate

there is also a high elo koren gankplank main who has a 79% win rate on GP when GP general overall win rate is 49.1% and he is challenger on korean server

MaeDoSanFeb 18, 20171 votes

Does having a high win rate mean you are a main or does just playing that champ a lot does Your point is that the general win rate does not correlate the win rate of some random one trick pony The win rate for players with significant number of games played on the given champ will have some significance if the overall win rate doesn't , maybe that should be compared

oSEXYPLATYPUSoFeb 18, 20171 votes

and therefore if you play a champ 100 times compared to a champ you played 10 times

on the champ you played 100 times and you get 53% win rate but you play a champ 10 times and win 6 times therefore win rate is 60% by your point would mean the champ you won 60% at is better then the champ you played 100 times and won at 53%

the correlation is over all win rate on champ does not indicate the power of that champ on a "main" now if you follow patch to patch and play op of the patch every patch then you might play rengar ( last patch ) a handful of times and win cuz he is over powered... cuz his generic win rate was through the roof and that accounts for the people who just playing him cuz he is strong atm (who arent as versed on the champ ) and the people who main rengar (which would have a higher win rate then the generic over all win rate on the champ.

no if nid was stronger as she use to be in season 5 ... maybe the OP who "mains" nid would win at 47% on her compared to his current win rate of 41% that dont mean the OP maybe not be a highly skilled player . and the OP has a 41% win rate on nid in bronze where donger jungler wins... teemo mid ... and so on ...

but i will agree nid is on the outs... could use some help... but if op was a better nid player then he would have a higher win rate then what he currently does

SwiftKitten88Feb 18, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Gpid3cGK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-17T23:51:58.822+0000)

but what is your win rate on nid?

a win rate on a champ you main... isnt the same as a general win rate.

i could be a one trick urgot main with a 78% win rate... when over he is in a bad spot...

so that being said you are 13 and 19 with nid for a 41% win rate ...

just gonna throw this out there... if you were a better player maybe you would have a better win rate?

umm ok.. what does that have to do with my post? I'm not using my winrate anyways...

oh and if i was better at nid i would have a better win rate?

lol.. ok.. i'd also have a better winrate if i mained a champ that could 1v5, or a champ that could kill a tank, or a champion with a winrate about 42%.

go try Taric in bronze.. and watch everyone run out of your utli. there is only so much u can do to carry a game... even if you play perfectly. not saying i play perfectly... but tryign to carry with a champ that is really shitty in teamfights and and is a poke champ when your bronze teammates engage in a 2v5 when you are trying to poke them down. makes it SLIGHTLY harder to carry

oSEXYPLATYPUSoFeb 18, 20171 votes

so you are saying if you played shaco over nid you would win more automatically ?

SwiftKitten88Feb 18, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Gpid3cGK,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2017-02-18T00:21:18.221+0000)

so you are saying if you played shaco over nid you would win more automatically ?

I'm not saying ANYTHING about me...

if you are too freaking thick to interpret my original post then let me spell it out of you im saying that the type of people who play shako complain and whine for buffs when their champion has a 55% winrate and get rightfully downvoted

but when nidalee mains ask for a buff on a champion with a 42% win rate (aka the lowest win rate in the game . everyone is a whiny bitch how she USED TO BE OP)

you don't balance the game on how a champ USED TO BE you balance how they are NOW.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoFeb 18, 20171 votes

apparently you dont understand my points as all... i used your win % as an example. but if you were better at the champ and the game you would have higher then a 41% on a champ you claim to main. regardless of her over all win rate... because a main of a champ knows that champ inside and out and knows how to play and win with their champ regardless of the champs over all win rate.

and her win rate isnt 42% it is 47.74% https://na.op.gg/champion/nidalee/statistics/jungle and 43.41% http://champion.gg/champion/Nidalee

regardless you win rate on a champ you main is lower then her over all win rate. so you perform worst on her then most of the people who play her . (now that was about you )

SwiftKitten88Feb 18, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Gpid3cGK,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-18T01:38:11.898+0000)

apparently you dont understand my points as all... i used your win % as an example. but if you were better at the champ and the game you would have higher then a 41% on a champ you claim to main. regardless of her over all win rate... because a main of a champ knows that champ inside and out and knows how to play and win with their champ regardless of the champs over all win rate.

and her win rate isnt 42% it is 47.74% https://na.op.gg/champion/nidalee/statistics/jungle and 43.41% http://champion.gg/champion/Nidalee

regardless you win rate on a champ you main is lower then her over all win rate. so you perform worst on her then most of the people who play her . (now that was about you )

its not 47%... its ranges from 41.5 % to about 44% depening on the site you look at and the elo u look at

and i understand your point perfectly.. you are trying to derail my threads like u always do.

i was actually making fun of shaco mains saying that they ask for buffs when they have the highest winrate in the game where as nidalee mains still get hate when they ask for buffs when they have the lowest winrate in the game.

and your post just proves my point.. you are arguing semantics.. 43% win rate over 43% win rate.. who cares.. the point remains the same...

oSEXYPLATYPUSoFeb 18, 20171 votes

it does... she needs some help...

and you are bad on her

so those are the two valid points

SwiftKitten88Feb 18, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Gpid3cGK,comment-id=0001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-18T14:18:37.546+0000)

it does... she needs some help...

and you are bad on her

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/performance/nidalee/na/swiftkitten88

tell me which elo i most closely match?

and then consider i am doing that while trying to carry 4 bronze people on a champ that is designed to pick off low hp targets to poke and split push while my team tries to engage an 2v5, and is bad in large teamfights. while at the same time having the worst winrate in the game.

so I'm SORRY my climb is a little SLOWER this year.. maybe if my main didn't have the lowest winrate of any champ in the game... it would be easier to carry with her

oSEXYPLATYPUSoFeb 18, 20171 votes

she don't ... other champs simple are not play enough to provide stats ... aatrox, nunu, galio, urgot etc ...

and all that link shows is you are bronze level at nid...

and you wanted to argue her win rate % and I provided two different sources for that one has a 47.74% and another has it lower... at 43.41%

I also stated that she does need help... but you fail to recognize that . but for your win rate to be lower then her over all win rate means you are preforming lower on her then average... and I cited other things stating that a main on a champ typically has a win rate higher on their main then the overall average of a champ because they are a main of said champ... therefore are skilled on that champ. you however have a win rate lower on a champ you claim to main then the average .