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TO ALL JUNGLERS OUT THERE

Oddysseas··1 votes·388 views

So i am a jungle main, i also like to ADC and sometimes MID. I have come to conclusion that there is one GOLDEN rune for a jungler... The rule is to respect your laners and never do anything without their approoval. When i don't jungle and i play in lane, i hate how some junglers will show up to ruin my plans. People have plans of how they want to manage their lane, plans that they can't explain to the team cause it would take hours explaining it's not effcient. When my jungler shows it almost certainly throws me off my plans and could literaly ruin my laning phase.

Just because i am low, it doesn't mean i need your help, sure you can stick around in case i die, you can pick up the kill after, but don't actually visit the lane without my approoval. Showing up in lane makes calm enemies more alert, it doesn't let them overextend and it makes them gank ready. Also dying to an enemy who is left low on HP and who stays in the lane and doesn't recal, could be an easy way for me to come bakc from behind them and pick the kill, which will even out the difference. So unless i tell you to do it, stay away from my lane. Also many junglers forget that especially solo lanes have way more exp, during the early phases of the game the enemy laner could be up to 3 lvls ahead of a jungler, during mid laning phase up to two levels ahead, this gives them a huge advantage in a 1 v 1even if they haven't visited the shop to buy items. This means that every time you show up to kill a top laner or a mid laner, you have a huge chance of getting yourself killed. Even a half hp top laner could easily kill a full hp jungler who is two levels down.

There is no worse that feeding an extra 300 gold to my lane opponent, if they are behind me, they close the gap, if they are even, you give them the advantage and if they are ahead, you make it impossible for me to comeback to the lane. Also many junglers will consider a kill exchange with a laner to be a success, but the truth the kill only made you stronger, but you won't be the one in the lane the whole time to deal with them, i will be. There are also some champions like fizz, kata,darius,riven,draven,leblank ect. who can snowball that one kill so hard since their scaling and dmg is incredible, so feeding a kill to a fizz, will ruin my day in lane with him.

Now i know that many junglers count on ganks and count on feeding themselves to win, however i am saying what is best for your lanes. You can chose to have a weak lane, but this will only work against you. Ping before you visit a lane and if you receive a negative response, just don't do it. I am sure there are plenty of ganking opportunities around the map for you but always remember most people have a plan, this plan can be ruined with your interference, so respect that and giving kills to your laners will do more good than harm, you will allow them to have an easier time and way less chances of feeding.

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pripustas1 votes

So basically be a second support. Come like a good doggy when they whistle, give them everything, take scraps. Here's where your logic doesn't make sense. It's a game -> games are played for fun -> you can't have fun if you are always in the background doing hard work. Or you can rely on yourself to carry. Take the buffs, take the cs when laner is out, keep the pressure up (because people tend to make more mistakes when they're under constant pressure) People who enjoy playing supports, please do, and I don't care if you're playing support in jungle. Just don't ask me to do the same.

Oddysseas1 votes

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So basically be a second support. Come like a good doggy when they whistle, give them everything, take scraps. Here's where your logic doesn't make sense. It's a game -> games are played for fun -> you can't have fun if you are always in the background doing hard work. Or you can rely on yourself to carry. Take the buffs, take the cs when laner is out, keep the pressure up (because people tend to make more mistakes when they're under constant pressure) People who enjoy playing supports, please do, and I don't care if you're playing support in jungle. Just don't ask me to do the same.

Well if you see the LCS and how the current meta is shaped, junglers are kinda like supports. Most of them, almost all of them honestly, build a sightstone, they pick champions with mid to heavy cc and they give away kills when possible to mid and adc. Now you must respect people's plans for their lane and how they want to manage it. showing up to push a wave when they want it frozen ect. But most importantly let the enemy feel safe allows them to overextend which makes ganks much easier. Forcing ganks will almost certainly wont work anyways.

When it comes to fun that you mentioned, i am specificaly talking about ranked game, in ranked game fun isn't a real factor. You play to win, that's how i see it. I always experiment in normals, teambuilder, i play there for fun and try out new strategies and even trollpicks for jungle, but when you play ranked, you must aim for the win every time. And a kill on katarina or fizz or riven or fiora had much more value that a kill on sejuani, or a pantheon, or a xin zhao, not to mention the kills on your adc. Also junglers have really a blast in the game right now, jungle creeps pay off so hard, the gold you can make farming your jungle is more than sufficient for you, i usually finish my games 1-3 rd in gold from both teams when i jungle simply from farming jungle creeps, which is why gifting the kills to laners pays out so much more.

pripustas1 votes

Sorry, but pro players get payed to play most efficiently. They also don't play carry junglers (or rarely). And if you're not having fun in rankeds you should stop playing them. Because now it's like you're having a job that doesn't pay.

Angry Monster1 votes

As a fellow jungle main; you are out of your mind.

Part of this game is adaption and reflexes. Your way of playing is going to coast you more games than helping.

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