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"We care about more than just money!" -- says Rito

Niyumi··1 votes·862 views

Mhm. Yet, you've never done anything to show it, and in fact you do more to argue against that statement with just about everything you do:

  • The literal easiest champs in the game are, by far, the strongest.

  • You contradict yourself repeatedly.

  • You create double standards over and over to defend your money makers while nerfing the champs the whales dislike.

  • You have champions that are OBJECTIVELY BROKEN, yet you ignore them and even buff them.

  • You straight up lie, like calling Thresh weak or saying ADCs are in a good place.

  • You put so little effort into the game that it's almost pathetic, instead focusing just about all your resources on new champs and skins so you can make more money.

  • You sell out to a fucking greedy Chinese mega company.

I really hate the direction society is going in. Rewarding incompetence, pandering to lazy assholes, enabling greedy fucks that run companies, obsessing over power and money over anything else, forgetting what morality is, and all that.

But hey, F2P is a WONDERFUL thing, and is in no way bad for the industry!

26 Comments

Alpha Samsuni5 votes

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** The literal easiest champs in the game are, by far, the strongest. **

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Marshbouy2 votes

Azir Nidalee and many more have some serious disagreements with that statement xD

Niyumi1 votes

Implying Nidalee is hard, or that Azir requires the mechanics of a god.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

????? Just try to play Azir well without feeding in a chance a chaotic teamfight where people try to dive for your chicken nuggets every 3 seconds.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

Azir isn't hard at all. He, like many other champs, require practice to master. Azir isn't one of the champs that a player can go ahead and get 10/4 on him on the first game. But he is much easier compared to Orianna. Nid... I can't argue her because I do not know her. But Azir is easy.

Marshbouy2 votes

Azir isn't hard at all

first Sciela and now you. bruh.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

Compare Azir to Orianna. Orianna comes much harder as she --Has a permanent ball vs. Azir's temporary soldiers. --is AP based with abilities while Azir is attack speed based --Does not have a good disengage so when she is caught out, she is done for (let's assume she is not terribly fed) (and her 'disengage' is her w movement up/slow) while Azir has an engage and disengage ability (e and ult) --Requires the combined usage of her ball and auto attacks while Azir is pure attack speed.

Just to name a few examples for someone who is harder and does not get the respect.

I should have worded that better. Azir is not hard.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Thank you.

Azir is a special kind of difficult.

Just right clicking and spamming Q is one thing.

Making plays and using Azir to his full potential is a whole other animal.

Niyumi1 votes

What champions have the highest damage in the game? Hmmm... ADCs, and champions like Jax, Yi, Xin, Udyr and other melee AA spammers.

What champs have the most CC? The easier tanks, like Sej, Mao, Naut, etc.

Now, tell me what Orianna does that any other champ can't do with half the effort. Tell me what Taliyah can do that anyone else couldn't do (outside of the obvious) with half the effort. Tell me what the new Kat can do that no one else can do.

Any champion that requires a higher IQ than a monkey's is punished for it, while any braindead clicker can win the game with little to no effort.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

Now, tell me what Orianna does that any other champ can't do with half the effort. Tell me what Taliyah can do that anyone else couldn't do (outside of the obvious) with half the effort. Tell me what the new Kat can do that no one else can do.

Could you please- rephrase?, reword?- this better I agree with what you are saying but I am lost what this statement means.

Niyumi1 votes

Taliyah is supposed to be a mage that controls an area, and makes enemies afraid to use their mobility or go into the area she's in. She has a unique way of doing that, but then I could just play someone like Annie and control an even bigger area with a far larger threat all while putting in a fraction of the effort Taliyah requires.

One of the examples I had.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

Okay. Now I see what you mean. Completely Agree as I thought.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

You should see their runes and Masteries! Bandit on every mastery page. And such scattered runes it's... Sad.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Sciela

Unstoppable Monk3 votes

ah yes, the world's metagame of annie garen yi and nunu proves ur point

Niyumi1 votes

The strongest class right now, and for just about the entirety of this game, is ADC. They are quite literally the easiest, most forgiving class in the game, yet are rewarded far more than any other -- especially once season 5 rolled around.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

I mean... That depends on the champion. Marksmen as a class, they are the easiest. Champions in that class, different story. I think we can both agree that Draven and Kalista are one of the more.... harder marksmen. Vayne takes some practice. But when you look at a champ like Ashe, Jinx, or Kog (probably before the patch that stopped him from exceeding 2.5 attack speed) are for sure easy. It is called attack speed (cough cough Jinx). I wanted to argue that Marksmen can fall off and maybe not the most forgiving, then I remembered my games of how we crushed a Graves, Jinx, Vayne, Ezreal, Ashe, Varus, Twitch in lane and how they magically caught up by mid game and carried late game.

Timethief493 votes

I like how you put Statements without examples. You should run for us president.

Niyumi1 votes
  • The literal easiest champs in the game are, by far, the strongest.

ADCs, the easiest class (through both ridiculous itemization and a total lack of mechanics beyond right clicking), but the highest damage in the game and mandatory for every team.

  • You contradict yourself repeatedly.

"We don't like it when people 100-0 you with no counterplay" -- buffs Zed and Vayne.

  • You create double standards over and over to defend your money makers while nerfing the champs the whales dislike.

Read above. And, spellvamp was apparently toxic because it allowed champions to sustain when they were supposed to be weak to poke and damage, yet ADCs are sustaining more than WOTA Vlad or Morde ever were, even though they're supposed to be easy to focus down.

  • You have champions that are OBJECTIVELY BROKEN, yet you ignore them and even buff them.

Zed is permaban status, Riot buffs him. Yasuo is permaban status, Riot ignores him and sneaky buffs him by fixing bugs. Vayne has a >50% winrate with a massive playrate, Riot buffs her.

  • You straight up lie, like calling Thresh weak or saying ADCs are in a good place.

No example needed.

  • You put so little effort into the game that it's almost pathetic, instead focusing just about all your resources on new champs and skins so you can make more money.

Taking a year to do a champ update when an amateur team could do the work in a week or two. Taking years to unravel the spaghetti code when any other company's team could do it in a month. Riot has talented people for sure, but they're not allowed to work on the actual game, since they're forced to meet quotas for the cash grab shop and new champs.

  • You sell out to a fucking greedy Chinese mega company.

No example needed.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

The points are great. I mean, if I knew more, I would give more examples with each point to feed the argument and your support, but I don't. If anything, I support the ADC mark and money remark. Everything this guy (I already argued my Thresh standpoint) I say is spot on. [Though I would like even more evidence to make your argument just that much stronger].

Bob41311 votes

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Mhm. Yet, you've never done anything to show it, and in fact you do more to argue against that statement with just about everything you do:

Yea we've never been given free skins (victorious, riot Kayle , hextech, etc), we're not getting a new client, no new map skins for free, etc.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

Yea we've never been given free skins (victorious, riot Kayle , hextech, etc), we're not getting a new client, no new map skins for free, etc.

You are right. We have not gotten a new map skin for free.

Bob41311 votes

not that is permanent, but we're getting another winter map, and the the past had Butcher's Bridge, the halloween and world cups SR.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

You know, the temporary map skins. The ones that last less then 3 months. Appreciate Riot. Thanks for the hard free work you gave us.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes
  • You straight up lie, like calling Thresh weak or saying ADCs are in a good place.

I agree with a lot of things you are saying, and I do not want to defend Riot but I can (unfortunately) argue a little bit of where Riot may be coming from. Compare Thresh to Bard. Bard passive and q are not bad in damage and good Bard players can 100 to 0 mages. Aye? Thresh, because he is one of the two (him and Taric) Support FIGHTER Champions, can't really burst and do a lot of damage in a meta support build. He needs either AP or AD to really do anything but every offensive ability he has focuses on crowd control over damage. You would really need to practice a lot how to use Thresh as a single fighter to do well, whereas Bard's meeps and q is good as it is. I play Thresh and I do not think he is weak at all, but they are looking from a Meta perspective. It is exactly why they made Fizz's ult more powerful, Kat more annoying, Rengar immune to cc, and Kha more clear.

Niyumi1 votes

Okay, but Thresh isn't made to do a ton of damage -- and even then, he has so much damage in his kit it's silly. Thresh is meant to jump in and just get in the way and disrupt their team while pulling out someone squishy. And anyway, my brother is a master of baiting people into fighting him as Thresh and killing them, even if it's a 1v1 against the enemy ADC. Bard is meant to do a lot of damage and be kind of a nuisance, that's what he was designed to do.

Ark Sorcerer1 votes

Bard is meant to do damage. Huh. Didn't know that. Can't argue that point if he was meant to be that way. As for Thresh not meant to be dealing tons of damage- you are right. He is not. He has cc in all three of his offensive abilities, which would be great-- if put on a mage, fighter or tank. Trying to think of my own games, the best I can tell you why Thresh does so well (can I get away with saying you face the Diamond Tier of Thresh players?) is due to everyone expecting nothing of him and his ignorance of how he works.

A Miss Fortune sees the enemy Thresh. She engages on him. This Thresh has 150 souls. Thresh q's her. 1.5 second stun, 2 seconds of movement impairment (1.5 second stun, .5 second of not moving). He reactivates q. MF tries to run or flash away. Thresh flays her back to him. He acitvates ult. MF is hit with 99% slow. Thresh auto attacks. Q's again. One more auto and she is dead.

Throws lantern for himself whenever in the process, absorbing at least 210, +40 per rank of w, damage.

The fact that Thresh scales off his souls- and his passive Flay (Which is why AD Thresh is a thing- I can explain if you want me to) scales off his souls, and his armour scales off his souls, his AP scales off his souls- makes it where they do not expect the damage and be extremely reckless for easy hooking. The thing is, he scales off his souls, a resource no one can look at. This game has been going on for 50 minutes. Thresh has collected 300 souls. Passive flay and shield do just that much damage/ shielding.

Then I realized you were arguing he is not weak. Ohhh. I just accidentally proved your point. Hmmm.

But Thresh is not meant to be a Team Disruption. He doesn't have giant AOE effects to do that. His only "aoe" is flay and that isn't all that big. He is an engaging champion. I wouldn't say "jump in" because he isn't meant to be the random Kha Zix that comes out of nowhere and kills people. And hooking squishies is hard if they are in the back line. Thresh is more of a- secure kills...? Prevents free motion...?- then just hop on in kill people.

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