It's the stupidest thing ever, and it doesn't work! Chat restrictions make the game unplayable and unfun. I ONLY flame in chat when there is a REASON, i am never toxic. If you die 5 times in 5 minutes ill flame to you, that's all, if some peole are too sensive they can go see a doctor.
Jubbinaut3 votesI ONLY flame in chat [...] i am never toxic.
For the record, these two statements cannot both be true. Flaming is toxic.
Phife1 votesFor the record, these two statements cannot both be true. Flaming is toxic.
To be fair you cannot say or do anything to someone who goes 0-5 in 5min... youre just fucked.
Jubbinaut1 votesThat may be true, but I'm not sure how it relates to what I'm saying.
Phife1 votesToxic or not op's attitude didnt affect the game...
Jubbinaut1 votesSure it did. It is absolutely possible to make a bad situation worse.
But I'm still not sure how that relates to my statement? Because I wasn't really commenting on the specific situation OP referred to after the phrases I quoted.
All I have said - and all I am saying is that flaming is toxic. So it's inaccurate (at best) to claim that one flames, but is not toxic.
Nucleophilic atk1 votesSure it did. It is absolutely possible to make a bad situation worse.
If your mid laner is 0-5 by 5 mins...there is no "making it worse". You are going to lose that game. Being nice doesn't make them play better, either. So no point in trying that lol.
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If your mid laner is 0-5 by 5 mins...there is no "making it worse". You are going to lose that game. Being nice doesn't make them play better, either. So no point in trying that lol.
True enough - you aren't likely to "lose harder." But you are going to create a more negative experience for absolutely everyone involved. Which makes the situation as a whole worse than it was before.
Things can always be worse than they are. There are entire games premised around showing this to be the case. Hell, there's even a TVTropes page about it.
Nucleophilic atk1 votesLol, personally, I love seeing a teammate shit on another one for being a troll (which if you are 0-5 by 5 mins, you are obviously trolling). It makes me laugh.
Jubbinaut1 votesWell... that's nice, I guess. I'd really rather not listen to it. From what I've gathered in talking to others about this kind of thing for the last couple of years, most people would really rather not listen to it.
So I'm glad that it doesn't bother you. But all that means is you aren't the person the policy is in place for.
Nucleophilic atk1 votesLol, oh no. This policy is in place for me. I got chat banned. It took me getting chat banned to realize, and I quote, "repeatedly telling players things like 'don't chase the tank into the jungle' create a toxic environment".
shrugs
Deep Terror Nami2 votesThere is never reason to flame. We've been over this; you deserve your restrictions and continue to prove it. Just admit your wrongdoing and try to get better. It'll help us, but it'll help you even more.
usul12021 votesIt does work, because for those games, your flaming is at least limited.
GetBoomedOn1 votesI notice when you just heed to the rager's demands it makes the game so much easier.
I'm playing Nidalee mid, 12-0 and this teemo who instalocked duo top starts flaming me b/c he says i ksed an entire Quadra Kill from him during a fight over dragon. I literally just kited and threw spears then pounced on the last guy as sion dove mid tower and killed him, then when I land my last spear to get the quadra on sion, I somehow KSed him. He proceeds to bitch and moan and by now I'm 16/0 so I just say "alright sorry I'll give you kills next time" and he says, fuck u im not helping you. So what do I do, I hand him an easy triple kill and he's instantly happy and says "see i dont need u" although he did no damage. But he was happy, and me, Kha, and Vayne continued to carry his sorry, bitchy ass to a win. Just take the high road, I promise it's worth it.
AnulApparatus1 votesHi, I support your thread and I encourage you to write a formal complaint here :
https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=4584
I would recommend the category Games & Features / Feedback
Feel free to take inspiration from my complaint :
"I'm honestly getting tired of how ridiculously easy you guys are throwing games restrictions around. LoL is supposed to be an E-sports, and sports in general are meant to be competitive. With that being said It infuriates me that I'm restricted for taunting my opponents. Do you think the sport of boxing would be the same if it weren't for the fighters ego, their self belief and the occasional taunting of the opponents ? It would be understandable if I were throwing around racial slurs or afking during games, but all that I'm doing is taunting my opponent in the spirit of competition. Should I be punished because my opponents feel angry after losing ? You should really make it harder to report people, so if something actually bothers them they'll take the time to go online and write a formal complaint. Pressing a button after the game is over is just too simple. Whenever the players lose, they just click the button and all of a sudden they feel better because they feel some sort of justification. Please for the sake of competitive E-sports, fix the system. "
Let's try and get some change going :)
Jubbinaut1 votesI like your example. And I challenge you to show a concrete example.
AnulApparatus1 votesa concrete example of what exactly :) ?
AnulApparatus1 votesa way of fixing the system ? I would suggest having players that feel offended submit a formal ticket - perhaps provide the player's with a game ID after the game is over so they're provided with the information they need to report the player if he really deeply feels that he's been wronged
Jubbinaut1 votesA concrete example of a sport where players taunting each other in ways that League considers unacceptable is acceptable within the context of that sport.
There are plenty that run contrary to that (quoted from the Ulanopo's TBI Knowledge Base, with my emphasis):
A Tumblr List of NBA Fines (http://nbafines.tumblr.com/) (My personal favorite on that site is this indefinite suspension (http://nbafines.tumblr.com/post/1010368028/3-12-96-the-nba-suspended-mahmoud-abdul-rauf-den), simply for refusing to stand during the National Anthem.)
A List of NFL Fines for Taunting (http://www.spotrac.com/fines-tracker/nfl/all-years/fines/taunting/)
NBC Article on Fines Agreed to by the NFLPA (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/01/bizarrely-specific-nfl-fines-come-from-agreed-league-union-schedule/) "Excessive profanity or other unsportsmanlike conduct triggers a minimum fine of $10,500."
NHL Office of Player Safety (http://www.nhl.com/ice/eventhome.htm?location=/playersafety) Brendan Shanahan is the ****ing Bad Santa of the NHL. Did you know that his Office of Player Safety watches every minute of every game, from multiple angles? He sees and hears EVERYTHING, including swearing.
... and the grand finale! Marge Schott (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schott), who was forced out of ownership of the Cincinnati Reds for racist comments and pro-Nazi sentiments.
I'm curious to see one where the kind of things League punishes are considered acceptable.
Oddysseas1 votesI like your example, people are too sensitive