I just had a game with a Riot employee.

Hibeki··1 votes·836 views

Boy you are gonna love this. I'm not gonna name them, so this wont be considered an attack.

Well, the riot employee was a support role. Bot immediately was feeding off the bat, and I'm playing Shyvana, so I'm already hard enough in the jungle as is, so I don't have time to gank bot at the moment, especially considering my kit pre six.

So after I hit six, the enemy ADC is probably 6/0 by now, and by now bot is just considered free kills. I start diverting my attention elsewhere knowing by now there really isn't anything I can do, they should have been warding more and playing more safely.

So now the ADC is just pulling the same ol' "No ganks by our jungle GG bot fed", and we all know that each lane is responsible for themselves. If you lost your lane without the jungler dying in it that's your own fault.

The worst part, is that the Riot employee was ACTUALLY AGREEING WITH THEM. He repeatedly said it's entirely my fault for not ganking, completely ignoring what character im playing, what they could have done, or the fact that their lane is their own responsibility.

By 35 minutes the score is 18/36 and their ADC is about 16/2 by now. My only hope considering the gold count and the team comp is to split push, but due to having chat restrictions (Boy you don't even want me to go into that right now) I cant tell them to stall and make time for me to create pressure.

By now they are just plain feeding, and both the adc and the riot employee are doing nothing but blaming me for A) The laning phase, and B) Not showing up to teamfights.

DESPITE the enemy having AT LEAST 150% our gold at this point they STILL want to teamfight. And because I took the only logical approach to this, I'm still getting flamed. Just as the human torch said, "Flame on". There ain't nothing I'm gonna say to that.

So this clarifies A LOT for me. The reason why Riot is taking literally NOTHING in the right direction is pretty clear.They have no fucking idea how this game works. If this wasn't true, they wouldn't have people like this.

And if this WASN'T a riot employee, it really shows how they don't pay attention to the community by not regulating the names (When it explicitly says that YOU CANNOT HAVE RIOT IN YOUR NAME when creating a name)

So don't expect anything competent to happen soon.

28 Comments

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

You claim 1 bad experience with 1 Rioter, therefore Riot as a whole has no idea?

You don't seem to have any chat logs, just saying your were told it was your fault. Maybe it was?

Hibeki1 votes

If riot even considers hiring people like this, then yes, riot as a whole has no idea.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Well you have no actual quotes so venting on the forums is a bit pointless. We can't agree with you without knowing what actually was said.

Alljoy1 votes

Would he even be allowed to post said quotes or logs with any repercussions under the issue of name shaming, etc. ?

Jubbinaut3 votes

If the Rioter posts it - clearing out other player's names - there's no Name and Shame (same concept as LyteSmites).

If the OP posted them - clearing out other player's names, including the Rioter - there's no Name and Shame (because there's no names).

Alljoy1 votes

But we'd be able to figure out the Rioter's name from Hebiki's Match History, wouldn't we? I guess that doesn't matter?

Jubbinaut1 votes

Nah. It falls under the same logic as having the names on Ranked Match History in the first place: If you didn't want people to know how'what you were doing in your games, you wouldn't be playing Ranked (or something to that effect).

And in a couple weeks, it'd be pretty hard to work out who he was talking about, anyway.

Alljoy1 votes

True, true.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I've seen plenty of threads deleted for naming someone, but none (to my knowledge) deleted for stating like a champion or score or other details; even though usually you can just check their last couple matches and find the name. Moderator case by case basis I guess.

Hibeki1 votes

How does that even matter? They were AGREEING with them

Alljoy3 votes

They have no fucking idea how this game works.

I just wanted to state the possibility that just because they happen to be a Riot employee doesn't necessarily mean they work in the Balancing department or such, so expecting a random employee or all the employees to know the indepth nuances of the game or meta as much as a player might probably isn't realistic.

Hibeki1 votes

That may be true, but you should have to know how ANY of this game works to be in charge of ANYTHING.

If you don't know what the people want or how they work you can't even be in charge of things like lore

Alljoy1 votes

If they were incharge of anything that is, not that I'm defending the Rioter in question or anything, just pointing it out.

Hibeki1 votes

You cant be an employee and not be in charge of something.

You don't have to order people around to be in charge of something.

Alljoy3 votes

I understand what you're implying but let's be sober for a minute here, do you really expect someone from say.. the marketing or some other department that isn't directly handling game balance to understand the concepts of how the meta works and how lane responsibility is handled?

Seems a bit too much.

Hibeki1 votes

Im not asking them to handle the marketing.

If they knew how much a shitty game this was from the way the other people are taking it, they wouldn't promote this game.

Everything is interlinked.

Jubbinaut2 votes

Assuming this is true (it's usually not, but there's no benefit to discussing from that perspective), I hope you reported him.

Whether you did or not, I hope you'll submit a Support ticket about it.

Riot takes this kind of thing very seriously, and holds their employees to a significantly higher standard than the rest of us.

Hibeki2 votes

I didnt think about submitting a ticket, but i will

Kouga2 votes

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Boy you are gonna love this. I'm not gonna name them, so this wont be considered an attack.

I'm playing Shyvana, so I'm already hard enough in the jungle as is, so I don't have time to gank bot at the moment, especially considering my kit pre six.

So after I hit six, the enemy ADC is probably 6/0 by now, and by now bot is just considered free kills. I start diverting my attention elsewhere knowing by now there really isn't anything I can do, they should have been warding more and playing more safely.

If you lost your lane without the jungler dying in it that's your own fault.

My only hope considering the gold count and the team comp is to split push, but due to having chat restrictions (Boy you don't even want me to go into that right now)

By now they are just plain feeding, and both the adc and the riot employee are doing nothing but blaming me for A) The laning phase, and B) Not showing up to teamfights.

This is an attack, even with your false pretenses of being respectable about it. All I see when I read is a whole lot of blaming going around - both from you (as I see here) and allegedly from them (according to you, if I take your word for it). If they posted their side and collaborated the story I'd say the same thing to them; it is a team game. Ultimately, the success or failure of the match is shared among the team. And slinging blame around accomplishes nothing.

I would say that in such a situation, coordinating with your team can turn things around even when you're at a disadvantage; a well planned gank can easily turn the tides even against an opponent with gold/level advantage. But you tell us that you have a chat restriction; which gives me very little faith in your argument now as there is evidence that you've been uncooperative or difficult to play with in the past.

If they blamed you for making some bad plays in lane, boo on them. But marching straight to the boards and shouting from your soap box that its their fault and not your fault and you had no role in it - then boo on you, too.

First off, in the end, its only a fucking game. None of this means anything in the long run outside of the extremely small percentage of players who have professional aspirations.

Second, there are a ton of factors that go into the game. I wasn't there, so I couldn't say, but I don't know what made them slide in bot lane. You say they should have played safer? Maybe they were getting dived under their tower - what could they do then? You say they needed more wards out? Maybe their support started with a Sweeper and eliminated all of them, or their jungler could use atypical routes of approach (such as Rek'Sai tunneling or thresh using his lantern) so that wards weren't effective. Would you have helped? Maybe. Maybe they still would have killed you and instead of being 6/0 after a few fight they would have been 9/0 after you failed to turn it around. Or maybe you could have brought it back. Can't say, but that's the nature of the game.

And third - shit happens. Get over it. Move on. The more time you're here raging on the forums, the less time you're out there, getting better, having fun, and winning the next game (maybe, if you can stop frothing long enough)

Alljoy2 votes

If what he says is true, I think what he means to imply is that it's less about the game and more about the Rioter's behaviour, if he really did start slinging around blame at the OP or went along with it.

Hibeki2 votes

This wasnt about the outcome of the game, this was about the behavior of the rioter.

Anomander1 votes

Match history OP if you want to know which employee..........

Hibeki1 votes

I cannot condone this for reasons

disregardable3 votes

Honestly, it's a shame he doesn't use the boards. I'd love for him to post these chat logs.

Jubbinaut1 votes

It's happened before. It may happen yet.

Hibeki1 votes

I'm open for it.

Anomander2 votes

I really want to see logs

Hibeki1 votes

As I said, if riot wants to release logs they can be my guest.

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