"Report support for not buying Sightstone"

Boomerangbro·Jul 21, 2015·5 votes·1,879 views

Oh really now. If it's that important to you, why don't YOU buy it? Ever thought of that? I know, all you adc's care about are your precious kills and have me as your meatshield when someone comes to gank, but if this item is too important to pass up, surely you can't spend a couple of your measly gold on such a valuable purchase.

Oh, what's that? Your support is actually talking? He's real? I thought he was the one that I could throw the blame on when I'm playing poorly. Seriously, get it yourself and stop crying.

26 Comments

RetroRage96Jul 21, 20157 votes

It's not a carry item. You won't carry with 150 extra health and the ability to do a job your support can do more efficiently. It's better that the support buys it because they are not required to do a lot of sustained damage, and that 800 gold that would be spent on a sightstone could easily be a pickaxe instead.

If you want glory, don't play support.

BoomerangbroJul 21, 20153 votes

I don't want glory, I want respect. Reporting someone for not buying a specific item is the stupidest excuse an adc can give if they are playing poorly. Yeah, vision is important and all, but when I come back with a item 3069 and a item 2043 , they have no excuses but to admit their mistakes. Maybe, just maybe, theyd get their mind out of the gutter and actually focus on team participation instead of "get kills" "I'm carry". If they have a hard time handling ganks, get their own wards.

RetroRage96Jul 21, 20151 votes

It's your job to protect them! If you are leaving the job to them to protect themselves from ganks, you aren't doing it right. Support carries the carry in the earlygame, if you don't do that, there won't be anybody to carry you in the lategame. Unless you have a Riven. And fuck that.

BoomerangbroJul 21, 20151 votes

I came back with a Talisman and a pink ward. If that isn't enough to get them out of a fight while I'm their meatshield, then I don't know what is. They should own up that they can't upgrade their measly trinket and not "OMG support no sightstone! It's all his fault".

RetroRage96Jul 21, 20151 votes

Now upgrading trinket is not bad, everybody should do that. But no ADC should have to buy a sightstone. If the carry can't handle ganks, you should hold them up and buy a sightstone. Yes, they will probably take all the credit but who really cares? '

And why does it matter that one person reported you?

BoomerangbroJul 21, 20151 votes

It's not one person. It's multiple ADC's. They all have this complex where if they die, it's somehow all the supports fault and they are the team's perfect angels. I prefer not to buy sightstone, but every single support game, I get the same thing. "buy sightstone", "report for not buying sightstone", "ward dragon", "ward lane", "ward bushes". I usually do all these things, but ya know. I know the adc has some money to go back and get a pink ward. Has any ADC ever bought a ward and properly warded their lane? I don't know, I havent seen it.

LintheJul 21, 20151 votes

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I don't want glory, I want respect. Reporting someone for not buying a specific item is the stupidest excuse an adc can give if they are playing poorly. Yeah, vision is important and all, but when I come back with a and a , they have no excuses but to admit their mistakes. Maybe, just maybe, theyd get their mind out of the gutter and actually focus on team participation instead of "get kills" "I'm carry". If they have a hard time handling ganks, get their own wards.

QFT. I suppose anyone can be reported for anything but I cannot imagine this report actually flying.

Only Play DariusJul 21, 20153 votes

Well sometimes I have that idiot support who starts lane with item 1052 and rushes item 3089 (which takes 25 minutes for them to build since they are not getting CS) and buys zero wards the entire time, despite me politely asking them to. Then I have to buy item 2049 as an ADC and lose damage.

I'm not against supports buying damage items. I ward as ADC, I buy wards on my first back and upgrade my trinket at level 9, so i'm not treating my support as a ward slave. If my support protected me during laning phase and has a sighstone then they can build all the damage they want because it's too fun seeing item 3100 Sona at work.

DarkDeamonDragonJul 21, 20153 votes

Not buying Sightstone is not a reportable offence so you shouldn't have any worries on that front. Although I would advise purchasing one as a support since, unfortunately, you'll be the one doing most of the warding on the map. You can get by with purchasing an upgraded trinket, but then you're denied the sweeper which denies vision to the other team. Vision is very important when you reach higher levels in League. Being able to provide and deny it is very useful.

Supports are usually picked for their utility over damage anyway. You can have your damage build if you want but it's not a supports job to deal damage. It's a support's job to protect the carry and a sightstone is not a cost effective item on a carry.

8th EspadaJul 21, 20152 votes

I like this. I feel like every player (maybe even more so the Jungler) should buy Sightstone (don't need to upgrade it) until they get a full build then they can replace it. A support cannot ward an entire map alone. A little help would be nice.

BoomerangbroJul 21, 20151 votes

I guess my whole point is. The ADC has money to buy a ward. USE IT!

vitalzignJul 21, 20151 votes

I played Ashe last game. I bought a item 2043 my first back. I upgraded item 3361 about lvl 10, I believe. My support bought item 2049 / item 3341 1st back and we kept mid/jung from getting a single successful gank (while we didn't get/need one because our lane was so successful).

Buy a item 2049 .....I HATE Annie/lux that thinks that their item 3041 / item 3089 are always more important than vision on even/losing lanes. They ALWAYS ks intentional, don't ward (while I'm still buying item 2043 and upgrading item 3361 ASAP), and brag about it and are total douches about it at the end of the game. As support as 2nd main, I ALWAYS buy item 2049 .....every single ranked game. Only time I don't buy is when I'm playing with friends and we're stomping draft/blind and we go for dmg bot lane.

It's necessary. It's absolute. Just do it and stop being ........well.... Teemo .

SarutobiJul 21, 20151 votes

i say as long as you are buying wards, and upgrading your trinket (although i feel sweeping lens would be better) then you dont need to buy a sightstone. i mean it is better and just becomes a habit for me! but its not like you need it if you are buying wards and using your trinket!

IcyPepperJul 21, 20151 votes

A support should buy sightstone because of the gold efficiency. Everyone should be buying wards spread throughout the game, only the support can afford (and gets the most out of it, maybe alongside junglers) to sink 800 early gold into it.

But it's still a choice, just a pretty obvious (buy the sightstone unless you're acting as a second apc and your team is fine with what you're doing).

But it's not a reportable offense to not buy one. That's like saying it should be a reportable offense to never buy wards, and if that were the case many adc players (not mains, mains actually buy wards. Honestly, upgraded blue trinket post-9, keep tri-bush warded pre-9 so support can ward priority areas) would strangely go silent on the matter.

Everyone should be contributing to vision, not making the support their personal ward slave.

LuggJul 21, 20151 votes

The job of the support is to protect the ADC and poke during laning, ward the map, and deny vision. Sightstone and sweeper is the most efficient way to do that. If you don't buy SS in the first three items and equip a sweeper, you have failed as a support.

BoomerangbroJul 21, 20151 votes

You have the attitude of the ADC's I get placed with. What if I play a good support without sightstone? What if I keep the ADC safe? Oh, it doesn't matter, Ididn't buy sightstone so I'm a failure. Your attitude is the one that makes people stay away from the support role because of your narrow views on the position.

LuggJul 21, 20151 votes

I main support. Try again.

BoomerangbroJul 21, 20151 votes

I actually have logic. Try again.

buster kitonJul 21, 20152 votes

He's actually right. SIghtstone is way more important than it seems. You're lvl 20, low level games you can get away with buying more combat-oriented items (and it is probably more effective than buying a sightstone), but the better people you get matched against the more important vision and sightstone gets.

CavemanSelfieJul 21, 20151 votes

Buster is right. If I run relic shield, then I'll upgrade it to targon's brace and buy a ruby crystal, biscuts and a stealth ward. Then I get sight stone and get another ruby crystal for face of the mountain. Of course I always get a sweeper. But thats so easy to get as long as you guys aren't getting wrekt. And then i get face of the mountain and start building armor. It's not really that hard. I main support.

BoomerangbroJul 21, 20152 votes

Why not just make it a mandatory item that every support has to buy then? If it is such a great item, have all supports be forced into buying it whether they like it or not, because apparently, if you don't buy it, you get reported.

LuggJul 21, 20151 votes

item 2049 is as important to supports as summoner 11 is to junglers. Yeah, you can probably get by without it, but you are really handicapping yourself and your team.

BeatzBoyFTWJul 21, 20151 votes

Sightstone should always be rushed as a support, you can't stay too cocky by highly depending on just your champion's abilities to secure the safety of your ADC. Having vision on river for two purposes, which is watching out for incoming ganks or dragon engage, is highly essential for the support to do the job, and you can't really just depend on your trinket alone to do it. Your role is highly covering the vision part, while your ADC covers the damage part, while still being able to provide a little vision for himself.

It's recommended to buy Sightstone after item 3097 item 3096 item 3098 , or if you're confident in your gold gains through Masteries & such, take it as a first buy. item 3401 item 3069 item 3092 is not necessary to rush early game, as it only has high impact on late game.

TaredomJul 21, 20151 votes

Aim for sightstone and a pink first back, I would be more upset if my adc bought a sightstone than a support not grabbing one, adcs need damage, not utility, although it's nice when one upgrades their trinket.

On another note, im not sure i would rush talisman, going sightstone into mobo boots (and for the love of god actually roaming with them if you go this route, while you have dragon, botlane river and tri bush warded and you aren't against a super oppressive lane (think sona and cait) and then snagging that talisman or aegis, now thats a build i think most of us can "support." (lol puns))

Build for your team. I often get sightstone and aegis in the jungle, but there's nothing wrong woth having two sightstones and two sweepers on your team.

EleshakaiJul 21, 20151 votes

The sightstone is the most gold efficient item in the game FOR A SUPPORT.

If you aren't buying it, you are factually playing the game inefficiently. 1 I don't necessarily think that warrants you getting reported, but it is CERTAINLY sabotaging your team's chances for success.

Colgate GatorJul 21, 20151 votes

While I don't condone reporting someone over getting/not getting X item, I pretty much always consider my support to be shit if they don't get Sighstone, this coming from someone who is used to playing support and knows the benefits of it.

EDIT: Nvm, baited by a lvl 20 account thread.