"Just climb back to your normal rank! It's easy!"

Niyumi·Jan 24, 2016·2 votes·364 views

Yeah, except for the fact that, in every game, the majority of your team has fed 10 kills within 15 minutes, and the entire enemy team is fed to the point that, no matter how fucking good you are, they can just instantly kill you -- how do you win in a situation like that, exactly?

I have no deaths, Riven has fed 6 kills to Fiora (who then goes and carries the game by, literally, two-shotting everyone).
I have 1 death as Graves, yet my support, mid and top have all fed kills, and Darius can't do anything to the ever so balanced Nasus (I even picked top, but he just locks in anyway as last pick)...

I'm beyond tired of fucking bronze. Tell me how you carry yourself out of this cesspool. As r%%%%%ed as the people in silver were... it was heaven compared to bronze.

10 Comments

Itadaki SeiekiJan 24, 20162 votes

To be quite honest, blaming your team for "Feeding" is a very bronze mistake.

Did you try to stop them? Did you contribute by buying pink wards? Did you try to gain vision control? Did you pick off people or just die in teamfights? Did you CS and try to push lane while your teammates were ganked? Did you win your lane and proceed to take the gold lead to the lanes that needed it?

Probably not, but even then. That's the biggest mistakes of Bronze players.

Lack of vision, blame their teams for losing in a team aspect.

I'm looking at your OP.GG games, and the obvious problem is itemizing poorly.

You built RoA on Elise jungle? Why not just go Rylai's and provide a slow? Or Dead Man's? Those items are amazing on her. Not to mention you took A LOT OF KILLS. If one person takes a lot of kills, where does the rest of the gold go? To no one. You having a ton of kill is GREAT for your KDA, but it's poor for your team.

You had 14k on your Elise game. Do you know how much the lowest person had? 10k.

On their team the lowest they had was 13k.

Reason why? They didn't have one guy with all the kills or assists. They also had a much better comp.

I have no deaths, Riven has fed 6 kills to Fiora (who then goes and carries the game by, literally, two-shotting everyone).

Can you tell me where this is? I don't see it in your match history at all.

I have 1 death as Graves, yet my support, mid and top have all fed kills, and Darius can't do anything to the ever so balanced Nasus (I even picked top, but he just locks in anyway as last pick)...

Don't see this either, I see you losing to a Nasus but not with a Darius top. I also see a Darius losing to a Tryn.

Maybe we're looking at a different story? The problem is the same. If you constantly blame your team and fail to understand the concept of " We're a team. I have to help the team. " You're not going to improve as much as you did last season. League HEAVILY relies on teamwork in Season 6 without green wards etc.

If you were supportive and understood " Okay I could have done x x and y, we could of had a better shot of winning. "

BUTNOPE. You had to put your team under the buss.

cuddlykitten4Jan 24, 20161 votes

Listen to this guy. He's right.

NiyumiJan 24, 20161 votes

Yeah, that's the excuse I hear a lot. "Oh, you didn't do anything for your team! That's why you lose!"

Bullshit.

When my team LITERALLY feeds 8 kills to their jungler within the first 6 minutes of the game, what the fuck am I going to do? When the ADC and support shouldn't even be playing ranked, let alone PVP, and die every 30 seconds, what am I to do?

And yeah, you know that Elise game? Well, most of those kills are because I caught people out, or picked targets in teamfights, or was the last person alive after my moron teammates fed them, and I had to clean up, something along those lines.

It was a game not long after the Elise game. Ended with 5 deaths I think, but I had 0 until a long ways into the game, while my team constantly died.

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Did you try to stop them? Did you contribute by buying pink wards? Did you try to gain vision control? Did you pick off people or just die in teamfights? Did you CS and try to push lane while your teammates were ganked? Did you win your lane and proceed to take the gold lead to the lanes that needed it?

Did I try to stop them? Well, that's why I have deaths. Did I bother buying pinks when my team couldn't even do something as simple as not rush 1v5 into them? No. Couldn't ward since leaving our base meant instant death. Picked people off, then promptly died because my team was nowhere to be found. If a teammate is ganked, I countergank. If I can't make it in time, I push my lane. My gold lead means nothing when my team can't even figure out how to use it in the first place.

So, when your team is incapable of even resembling a team, and does more to hinder you than help you, there's really not a whole lot you can do. I can't take over peoples' machines and force them to play like, you know, someone who has a brain.

RunAwayChampJan 24, 20161 votes

Its almost impossible :P its all luck of who you get on your team..

VesarixxJan 24, 20161 votes

Here's a stat you might have heard, your team is 20% less likely to have a troll on it than the enemy team if you yourself don't troll, but there's actually another side to this, if you aren't carrying then your team is 20% lees likely to have someone that carries, your team all fed 10 kills? You're laning against people in the same skill range that they are, why don't you have 10 kills? Other lanes are being pushed in and losing, why aren't you helping them? You're not going to get anywhere just going even in lane and then hoping your team does OK, draw pressure away from the rest of the map, roam and help other lanes, get the shutdown gold from that fed enemy, get dragon if top is being camped, kill the jungler when they come to your lane, split push if you can't team fight, set up slow pushes in the side lanes before you group mid, force down bot while baron is down so your enemy will be on the other side of the map when it respawns, use teleport to gank other lanes, use ignite to pressure or kill your opponent, freeze the lane and zone your opponent away from CS, roam into the enemy jungle and gank them. Stop letting your enemies control the game, don't respond to them, make them respond to you.

cuddlykitten4Jan 24, 20161 votes

OP thinks kills wins games, and if they have the kill count favor then there are no win conditions available. Raise your hand if you know why he's in bronze right now raises hand.........raises it a little higher

NiyumiJan 24, 20161 votes

So, tell me, when did I say KDA was how you win? Oh, hm, I didn't! But when the enemy team can all instantly kill me, what objectives am I going to take? Oh sure, I can splitpush, but that means losing a lane since my team is incapable of defending. I can even take / steal a dragon or steal a baron, but my team won't do anything with it. Only way I can even win in low ELO is to entirely disable the enemy team (you know, with that good KDA for gold) so that my moronic team can brainlessly push lanes.

cuddlykitten4Jan 24, 20161 votes

Man, you don't have to say it. We all know that's how you're equating it. Now, I could give you some real advice here. I looked up your stats, and have a pretty good idea of what would pull more wins out for you. I planned to inform you, but then I got to this part of your post so that my moronic team can brainlessly push lanes. I'm not going to attempt to help you because I don't want someone with that kind of attitude mucking up my MMR. Please stay in Bronze, you're attitude fits that tier. When that changes, that is when you will climb. No way around it. This is fact.

1st MovementJan 24, 20161 votes

If your as good as u think you then you should have no problem climbing

Gotta let go of the mentality it's my team fault your losing

Work on rotations and mechniacs basically what u need to climb out

JRobin31Jan 24, 20161 votes

Welcome to ELO Hell! To survive, you must learn the META of ELO Hell!

Everyone unintentionally feeds (even you). It's not their fault (or yours); they just don't know any better (neither do you). If you see an enemy that feeds, then you go and kill that enemy as many times as you can. You must do this before you yourself feed. If you don't do this, then you will feed and have no hope of winning.
There is always an afk (is this you?). If someone on your team afks, then you will probably lose and if someone on the enemy team afks, then you will probably win. Therefore, if you get an afk on your team, then you must pretend that you do not have an afk on your team. If you do this, then there is a chance an afk will occur on the enemy team! When this happens, you can win. If you don't do this, then you will eventually afk and lose the game.
Everyone is toxic (including you). The only real question is: who will be toxic first? The best way to prevent toxicity on your team is to stfu, because anything you say is probably toxic. Just be quiet and eventually, someone on the enemy team will be toxic. If you really know the ELO Hell META, then you can risk saying positive things in chat, but... be careful, typing in chat encourages your teammates to type in chat too! And every time someone types in chat, there is a chance of toxicity. Remember, the moment you say anything that is not unambiguously positive, you lose all hope of winning the game.

Learn this META well. And forget the META used in the LCS or other pro-play where everyone is friends and communicates and knows what they are doing (most of the time anyways). You must learn a different META. You, my "friend" (haha, there are no friends in ELO Hell), must learn the META of ELO Hell! If you do this, you might survive (50-50 chance?). If you don't, then you will suffer and suffer more and suffer even mooooooore. And everyone who is not in ELO Hell will laugh at you and tell you it doesn't exist! Muhahahahahha!