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Every patch since the start of the season has felt like it's loomed like a cloud of eldritch black vapour on the horizon and I find myself dreading each patch more and more. Really hoping 6.5 cleans up some of the mess that's still hanging around like a drink spillage nobody bothered to mop up.
WadeWilson13378 votes"Another patch, another rework/champion release featuring the classic 3 auto attack rule like we are trying to get to the center of a tootsie-pop that promised us Diamond V."
PikaCHU5677 votesI wish Ahri didn't get get that change too her E. Sadly I won't be playing her as much anymore.
MrWasjig22 votesAll is does it raise a middle finger to good Ahri players by removing a reward for playing well, not to mention homogenizing a highly unique form of CC.
Canidae3 votes
Keevalroy20 votesI like how his defense was "well I didn't see anything Ahri players would give up to keep this so it's locked."
Well how about you open your fucking eyes and look at all of the people who want her Q speed hit or removed. No? That didn't happen? Alright...
All this does is make her skillcap even lower. You're punishing good Ahri players while the awful ones won't notice a difference.
NsEternal4 votes^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is what i dont like about what riot is doing. The game is supposed to be competetive but by removing aspects like this you take the skill out of it. i feel like the joy of the game is being taken out because the lesser skill players arent being cater'ed to enough and they dont wanna learn the tricks or take the time to become good. they just wanna win and not actually have to work for it.
MrWasjig13 votesAnother classic example of Riot obstinately refusing to acknowledge player feedback in the slightest.
Yeah I know that's resulted in some real dodgy balance in the past (Juggernaut Skarner's release) But they really should take player feedback into consideration because as whiney as the Boards are, the entire playerbase is the single biggest Live Testing Team on the planet.
If you'll allow me: https://theshellcase.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/the-god-emperor-cant-be-wr.jpg Take it that^ with a grain of salt, just like Riot should with player feedback.
MrWasjig5 votesSo a Rioter grew a backbone, so what? Doesn't mean people have to like the changes :P And this is coming from someone who rarely, if at all played Ahri.
Karma Deified4 votesYou have not changed these things because they are interesting and bring about diversity in the skill pool. Charm causing people to stop dashing is part of Ahri's identity. It has not been removed for years because it is not overpowered and not, as it is presented, a bug (this is one of few cases where, if it was a bug at first, it actually has developed into a feature). It has remained in the game because it is part of Ahri's identity. It is part of what makes playing against her, as her, and with her so exciting. Removing its ability to stop dashes is one more step towards Ahri and all of League a little less interesting, a little less diverse, a little less fun.
I started laughing here, **this **is why forum "balance" isn't taken seriously.
MrWasjig2 votesBut that's a single example of one guy clearly having no idea what he's talking about, you can't look at this and say "The ENTIRE Boards is like this" because there are plenty of genuinely good and interesting suggestions.
This guy's response is the verbal equivalent of flailing one's arms about while making popping sounds with their lips.
Karma Deified3 votesThis guy's response is the verbal equivalent of flailing one's arms about while making popping sounds with their lips.
Yes, that is the forums majority.
MrWasjig2 votesYes it's the majority but that doesn't mean good ideas are non-existent :P
StealthWarden1 votesWhat i want to know is why Charm is still allowed to make people walk harmlessly towards you while being disabled, and the Fear mechanic is "too op" when they run randomly so it has to be away from you, making it less effective. If you can answer that mr whisper, ill go along with your cute little comment trashing someones opinion.
Karma Deified1 votesI'm not sure where you're going with this. But since it is a charm, it wouldn't make much sense if it didn't differentiate itself from a similar taunt or especially a fear.
My only guess is that you're trying to get me to say it's part of Ahri's identity. And yes it is, she's a temptress and if they were to run away or attack while charmed it wouldn't make sense. Naturally, you wouldn't cease all movement upon being put under a mind alter, so that doesn't hold water.
But I don't really know your actual point.
DEmperor954 votesThe intention of the change is to make Ahri more vulnerable to champions who can close the gap to all-in her. For how mobile and safe she is, it makes sense to at least allow others to gap-close to her, especially when a lot of champions rely heavily on doing so to stand a chance against her mobility. This means that Ahri can just save her charm for their gap-closer which makes her so much safer than she already is.
Reducing Q MS is not the solution, as it will either be still strong enough for her to kite (which is her main strength), or turn weak to be almost pointless.
MrWasjig2 votesWell she lasted since release without that insipid MS boost I'm sure she'll do fine without it :P
DEmperor953 votesBefore the MS boost she had a different profile of strengths and weaknesses. She was not as mobile as she is now, so it was ok to stop dashes with Charm. Her main strength was her assassin-like characteristics with Charm damage amp and DFG reliance.
At the moment, however, he strengths have changed. She bacame much more mobile and safe, but lost a lot of her assassination potential. And so it makes sense to strip away some of her safety to allow champions to gap-close on her with this change.
MrWasjig1 votesHm, okay you got me there. Even so I still think this change is pretty asinine.
Mael bro1 votesHer ratios weren't even nerfed.That just makes you a delusional Ahri bandwagoner, who abandons the champion the second it isn't strong anymore.
Lauchmelder1 votesIt's not the right nerf for her at all. If they do this they might as well change it so Threshs, Blitz' and Amumus Q don't Interrupt a dash either. And that's coming from someone who mains Thresh.
Naphal1 votesI wish Ahri didn't get get that change too her E. Sadly I won't be playing her as much anymore.
they have taken a very important tool instead of reducing damage or mobility, i am not happy.
(oh look a new LB skin! well i will stick to my 3 ahri skins and play her, so no FOTM money for you riot!)
Rendarkan7 votesI read the patch notes and the most upsetting and completely appalling thing i read was:
The eagle screech in Statue of Karthus's dance audio is no longer global for allies.
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!
Jasiwel1 votesSeriously, I was frustrated seeing this too and I'm still salty over the Viktor nerfs.
LankPants6 votesWouldn't be surprised if it ends up like this.
MrWasjig2 votes"Fooled you! It's shit!"
Probably will be unless they stem the floods by closing the bloody flood-gates
Blue Moon Wolf3 votesI'm just happy that they took back that soraka changes (at least for this patch). I don't care if she might be broken right now, that alignment crap is not the way to fix her.
MrWasjig2 votesWhat would you suggest for Soraka? Personally I would revert the changes on Grevious Wounds, make it affect all healing and not just self healing. Because that change made it an even more niche debuff than it already was.
Revert it to affect all healing but tone down the % cut. BAM! Easy.
Blue Moon Wolf1 votesActually this sounds great. Honestly the only thing I liked about the changes they had was that they were going to give soraka some of that mana regen back with that alignment, but they wound up removing that. If she really needs a nerf though, your idea is much better than... whatever riot is trying to do.
MrWasjig3 votesOf course my idea is better, because I'm capable of thinking like a sensible human being. Riot's balance team started taking brown acid and looney pills around the Juggernaut update and now it's the only way they can get through the day.
Hence, shitty asinine balance changes.
Canidae1 votesIf I read right, those changes are coming back to PBE next patch with retuned numbers. I'm still kinda psyched for new Soraka since the pending changes are gonna throw off so many common builds for her.
Tyrone Lannister3 votesOh yhatzee
Doctor Dyment1 votesHehehe. Yahtzee.
CitadelOfIce1 votesYou know a little over a year ago I left the game for a while. I was gone from 
to 
and when I came back we were just starting the cinderhulk meta. I wounder if I do it again I'll come back to something similar. You got to admit cinderhulk was more fun then this.
MrWasjig1 votesMinus Sejuani one shotting people (and while her nerfs were justified, Riot's justification for keeping her in that nerfed state was bullshit, but I digress) yes is was pretty good.
Assassins were a bit underpowered but does anyone other than assassin mains give a shit about assassins being underpowered? Nope.
