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McFatal7 votes

except i have firsthand experience when i played with this guy and he most definitely did not int or troll.

he has a legit strategy that almost always works and its incredibly useful when it works out.

i didnt report him then and i wouldn't report him now.

its like saying back when the trick2g shit was active where his friend sirchezz and him only pushed for objectives and refused to help their team is reportable.

they ended up pushing for nexus and inhibs all the time and it mostly worked.

??????

i know you're desperate to protect the company that has their foot so far up your ass you cant eat without making a thread about praising riot but actually face the facts.

Skorch1 votes

Check the post location, then comment again.

But you know what i'll still respond just to give my opinion.

What trick did is reportable under "Refusing to communicate with team." Winning strategy =/= Not-toxic behavior

McFatal5 votes

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Check the post location, then comment again.

But you know what i'll still respond just to give my opinion.

What trick did is reportable under "Refusing to communicate with team." Winning strategy =/= Not-toxic behavior

explain toxic.

did he run down your lane and fee dthem kills?

he picked a role and took a strategy hes been using for years that dont involve flaming inting or trolling.

just because that dosnt work out sometimes doesnt mean its going to deserve a ban.

Skorch1 votes

I will agree he didnt deserve the ban. But i will disagree on Toxic Behavior. Toxic isnt only assisting the enemy team, or directly attacking teammates.

Toxic most of the time just mean unfun for teammates. And refusing to cooperate with the rest of your team is Toxic.

What trick did was toxic, what this nunu did was toxic.

Now im going to remember this is M&G and stop having actual discussions as they kill the mood.

TyrekGoldenspear4 votes

You really need to word your statements better.

Understand this. Differing opinions and perspectives of matters like this exist. Your side isn't the best just becuase you happen to be on it. Think about that. And think about what Support means before you assume things. He was playing as a Jungler. Not a support.

McFatal4 votes

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You really need to word your statements better.

Understand this. Differing opinions and perspectives of matters like this exist. Your side isn't the best just becuase you happen to be on it. Think about that. And think about what Support means before you assume things. He was playing as a Jungler. Not a support.

did he take of his teams camps?

he invaded the enemy jungler and made him useless while soloing every drag that was up and pressuring lanes.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Which is what a jungler does. This was a duo jungle issue. /thread.

RangoTangoGanko3 votes

Duo jungle has been done since season 1. Like it can work, it's a form of playing the game not caring of the roles.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Didn't say there was something wrong with it. But call it what it is. Duo Jungle.

Don't ride on Support sympathy by calling it "Support Nunu banned Rito Sux" when you're not playing support.

RangoTangoGanko1 votes

But A support for the jungle, is not a new thing. Nor is it game breaking. What beats a duo Jungle is duo top you force the jungle to now fight a support and tank not something a jungle and support would win in a match up. Like counter rotation and play of these kinds of things are kind of the point of league. Freedom to play the game how you want and not get judged. Like I have played since the season where ADC and Supp are not a thing. But it eventually made it's way in the game and it has not changed since. It makes it boring and not fun to be creative with builds and things you test out in the practice tool.

ZURELL1 votes

theres no option for queing as counter jg. he didnt want to take out the laners and original jg. support was the best option. and he's still supporting his team just not babysitting his adc.

instead of reporting and bashing him. how about working with him and helping deveolop the strategy?

dont be a part of the problem help be the answer

Skorch2 votes

It CAN work, but if his team wanted that strat. It becomes an issue of should he do this off meta thing he wants, or should he not since his team doesnt want it. The issue is its HIS fun versus the dissenting members of his team. Who is right? In this specific case riot sided with his team as MANY players were upset with 1. And the 1 player didnt cooperate with his team but demanded cooperation himself.

RangoTangoGanko1 votes

Like I said, but you don't change this game you don't evolve the meta if you act like you have to have the same 5 man team roles every time. If 2 friends decide to duo top, while you have 3 solo people decide Jungle, mid and ADC. What are you going to do. 2 friends wanted to see if their strategy worked. If it does, chances are opponents and your teammates are like wow that is cool a different way to play the game, and I think the point is we should always look at at least 3 different way to play this game or you can abuse things that don't ever get a chance in the spotlight and when they finally get there everyone thinks it is unfair. Now i'm not saying there are unhealthy things in the games meta, but you wont find unhealthy things if you don't spread ideas and new ways to build and play the game to find the best balance.

ZURELL1 votes

yea that arguement is burnt out.

riot picked the many over the one. riot has tried staying neutral but in the end just banned the guy and picked a side anyway. and that was wrong.

Skorch1 votes

To be fair they ARE a company many over one is a valid reason.

ZURELL1 votes

for business sure

RangoTangoGanko3 votes

It isn't trolling If they can prove why the build and numbers work. If you truly wanna get good, you Go through all items and give your self the best stat build with champ stats, in theory you are making a build you are not sure if it will work or not. But if you do good then it is considered not trolling? the build does not work how planned and then called a troll it sucks. Ex. My lightning akali build an 80% win rate akali for me building an otherwise, "Troll build"

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

I don't know about you, but I for one am completely tired of arguing with people about this.

I said my piece, so now I'm just going to sit back and watch what happens. This isn't worth the headache.

For what its worth I will not report off meta builds or roles I see in my games, whether we win or lose. With the exception of course if it's something completely stupid like 6 tear Sivir or AP Caitlyn.

Captain Aishi1 votes

dude, AP Caitlyn is legit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCI9Y4VGCVw

Skorch1 votes

same

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