: AAAAHHH WHO DO I BAN?
: Why not ban Yasuo?
: Come on he's not THAT bad, there are much better bans.
: Can't he just E out of Jarvans Ult?
ME 
: Well it's quite limited, i mean he Physically CAN...
: Half the champions in this GAME can ignore my ult, its basically a damaging ability at this point.
This reminded of how many champions can avoid his ult, poor Jarvan.
Velzard of Koz17 votesIt's still good to protect your allies from cowardly runaway from that Anivia's ult. Make it Damacian way.
NuberGladHe8her9 votesWeren't there suggestions to make it truly impassable before? Yet it would be considered overpowered?
Hmmmmm..... She's much better now but still.
Marshbouy10 votesIt's almost like they are completely different abilities. One is AOE nuke that creates a barrier around an entire TEAM The other is a 1v1 zone that creates an impassable barrier around one person.
JarPoop IV4 votesThis. J4 ult has such different utility compared to camille ult. If his ult was truly impassable, he would really be broke af with that aoe unstoppable on click nuke.
Tentacle Love6 votesJarvan should give a movement speed buff to allies trapped in his ult.
The buff should be called "Jarvan is helping."
KoKoboto2 votesThe fact that Vayne can tumble out of it is pretty lame. Unless this was changed and I didn't notice.
SH Azykan6 votesit did get changed, all abilities that arent supposed to go through terrain now cannot go through anivia wall or j4 ult
NastyMcOutplay2 votes[{quoted}](name=7th Syn,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=70p2ejGv,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-18T23:07:03.613+0000)
it did get changed, all abilities that arent supposed to go through terrain now cannot go through anivia wall or j4 ult
they can still go through yorick wall
SH Azykan4 votesI don't think yoricks wall counts as terrain since you can attack it. it would count like minions (which was the old problem with j4's wall)
sirwaterfles1 votesYou can slam people into it as poppy or vayne so i think its terrain.
Automated Riven1 votesthis is actually false. dashes which cant clear terrain cannot go through yoricks wall either.
SH Azykan1 voteseh wouldnt know, I dont play yorick, nor do I tend to play champs that would have this interaction (fizz goes right through it and I would pick mordekaiser into a yorick if I saw him picked before my pick)
NastyMcOutplay1 votes[{quoted}](name=Automated Riven,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=70p2ejGv,comment-id=0002000000000001,timestamp=2017-04-19T03:09:04.206+0000)
this is actually false. dashes which cant clear terrain cannot go through yoricks wall either.
ive seen kalistas, vaynes and galios go through it just last patch
Automated Riven1 voteskalista can clear terrain. there is certain actual terrain that vayne can tumble through. and idk about galio. that would probably be a bug.
Dolasaur1 votes(late to convo) important question from someone who hasn't played J4 in years: can people still just walk out of it (bugged)? That used to happen to me about once a game back in ~s3.
SH Azykan1 votestested vs a bot, since they were extremely consistent in being able to walk through before. bot was unable to do so, so I dont think walking through at the "corners" is possible anymore.
Skins Project1 votesCan still condemn him into it ;-;
Morgan le Fey2 votestbf when it's good it is a bit amazing. Ori R + j4 R + any burst AoE is terrifying. Plus, if you j4 R first and then Ori R, you can yoink people who flashed out right back in if you time it right. It's rare and takes a lot of coordination, but it's so evil and fun.
Even when people can dash through it, you can time CDs and either force them to burn them early (I'm sure they don't need that Flash in a couple minutes When Heca ganks anyways >:D ) or wait until they're burned and keep them in for a few seconds until CDs are up. There's a handful of champs that it's not useful against in general (
), but for the most part it's at minimum a zone control ability with strong potential for plays off of smart timing and forcing fights/abilities/flashes. So yes, it's escapable, but at the end of the day the potential for foes to escape is itself a tool in your favor to some extent.
Spacesuit Spiff2 votesWhen the soraka rework hit, it seemed like her E inside the crater would make it more inescapable. Ill let you guess how that turned out.
Akali Prime1 votesYea...EVERY CHAMPION DOESN'T NEED A DASH RIOT
TimX24968B1 votesI heard he was supposed to be good in assassin metas, but his playrate is kinda low.
Wolfeur1 votesI don't think it should be truly impassable, but blocking dashes would be nice already
invisiblecat11 votesThere was a post the once said that the inside of it should apply grounded I still don't understand WHY people upvoted that considering it would become impossible to escape
KyojiTakajo2 votesBecause Camille exists :^)
Ariel the Cruel1 votesHalf the champions in this GAME can ignore my ult, its basically a damaging ability at this point.
You're just doing it wrong. ;p