@Riot, @Meddler, Lissandra needs your help.

Canastus·Jun 6, 2014·4 votes·928 views

If I recall correctly you were experimenting on some new elements for her kit, an ice-shield for instance. Something related to a new passive, to be precise.

Well, I feel we deserve a little heads-up since the latest release of her Blade Queen skin and I really think she could use some buffs while we're at it. Please don't remind me of her "birthday-gift", turning her R into a glitch-magnet wasn't exactly nice.

Her identity as a champion right now is rather questionable which is why she deserves some much needed love. Please, at least consider the problems which I pointed out out in my previous thread: http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-skins/WAFvcIQ2-lissandra-needs-help

10 Comments

Final GirIJun 6, 20144 votes

I personally don't see Lissandra as needed for updates that badly. She has a very strong lane presence and with her passive, if you play her correctly, you rarely ever have to get any mana regen items. She looks visually appealing, her skills look for nice, particles look great. And her texture looks good. Her skills are rounded out, she has high damage output with her burst, she has get aways and ways to protect herself. I personally think she is fine the way she is. I mean, I don't like playing her, but I still think she is a fine champion.

HazeyInDaHeadJun 6, 20144 votes

Dude. No.

Lissandra is an empty shell.

Managing her weak passive is not good enough and if you played her much you would know that. (I see you have not played her even one time in ranked on your account)

You dont have a strong lane presence by being able to cast a spell while oom every 18ish seconds.

Lissandra is a squishy utility cc mage without the durability or support capabilities for bot lane, the resistances for top lane, the clear times for jungling and she can barely survive in a lane on her own as she has very little kill potential on anyone in any point in the game.

Her base damages and ratios do not add up for the mana costs, cds and perceived power level of her kit.

She is sorely lacking and has been since they nerfed her damage to the ground.

As it stands lissandra is a squishy utility engage cc mage that requires a team to dive with her and we know how that usually works in soloq. Lissandra just dies while the team engages late or just runs after she is blown up

SolidBabyJun 7, 20141 votes

That's funny because I actually think she's a hidden OP support and play at about twice your MMR... The OP is also a levle 9, balance advice from the true experts. I'm 5-1 on her in ranked btw, all games played in low plat in the last 10 days.

HazeyInDaHeadJun 13, 20141 votes

I was speaking of her from a mid lane perspective.

with all her cc shes an ok sup but I think that all the engage heavy/counterengage popular picks make her a tough sell.

Care to comment on matchups where sup liss excels?

AurenJun 6, 20142 votes

Lissandra has been a slightly weak champion since her release. She just too squishy for how the rest of her kit plays out. She could be tankier or she could have higher damage.

I suspect Riot isn't willing to give her more damage. With more damage she would just shift into an assassin type role instead of the control utility mage she was designed as. She needs some changes to make her more tanky. Part of the problem is her kit. She requires just too many stats that it's very hard to itemize for. You have to get CDR because she has long CDs, you need AP because she has low damage, and you need health. Something has to give.

I think a shield would be a nice addition. Something that can give her a bit more ability to stay in the type of prolonged engagement that her kit works best in. Another possible change would be to just also give her Q some additional range.

WorgslargJun 6, 20141 votes

What do you think of the ideas that punitveClinician posted here

CanastusJun 6, 20142 votes

I welcome any changes to Lissandra as long as they're healthy and improve her overall performance. I've no objections to his suggestions, I'm just trying to raise awareness so others may develop some good solutions of their own.

Of course getting any of the reds in here would be the best case scenario.

SolsticeEVEJun 7, 20141 votes

Give her some solo kill potentials, like karthus qs with double damage, she would still provide excellent CC in teamfights, so lower her damage or smthn, and double double of it hits a single target or champion.