Zilean Time Bombs

Thryale·5/13/2014, 7:46:28 PM·2 votes·354 views

I know hardly anyone plays zil anymore, but there has been something about his bombs that irks me.

Namely, spell shield interaction. Stuff like sivir's spell shield, noc's spell shield, and banshees. All of these block the placement of the bombs rather than the explosion of the bombs. (haven't tested explosion popping banshees yet)

I think it would make more sense, and at least let the enemy feel slightly better about zil's bombs if they could use their spell shields on the actual explosion rather than the placement of the bombs.

Another thing, it's really annoying drawing turret aggro when I place a bomb on someone. I thought you only draw turret aggro when you deal damage. I've tested putting my slow on the enemy and that does not draw turret aggro, so is drawing aggro on placing the bomb a special case interaction that riot did on purpose? or is it simply the remnants of the outdated mechanic count down timer doing 1 tick of true damage?

5 Comments

Thales5/13/2014, 8:08:37 PM2 votes

Turret aggro being drawn is really important to make Zilean not even more frustrating to lane against. If he could effectively tower-dive you (which it would be — applying his damage to you deep under tower without tower aggroing onto you), that would remove a lot of what little room there currently is to play against him in lane. After level 9, you can start fighting back, but before that point, his gargantuan base damage and scaling on Q makes him dominant, if mana hungry. If even tower didn't protect you, things would be even worse.

The Red Warden5/13/2014, 7:54:02 PM1 votes

The revive would make more since if it gave back mana, or the e affecting attack speed.

Michicha5/15/2014, 11:56:24 PM1 votes

Zilean is on Riot's list for a rework. He has some dated mechanics and I'm pretty sure Riot doesn't want to even bother messing with him now if they are going to rework him anyways. Now, as Riot would ask, what do you think is iconic to Zilean? How do you feel when you play Zilean? What do you identify him as (Control Mage support or a team "buffer")? It'd be nice to see some Zilean concepts that capitalize on his current strengths and add more counterplay options as well as adding options for the Zil player. I had some idea's, but meh, not sure if posting them is worth it...