Nidalee Buffs

Commando Yi·Jun 18, 2014·1 votes·713 views

Can someone explain what exactly the purpose of reworking Nidalee was? They just made her absurdly stronger to the point where she's probably going to be permabanned.

9 Comments

PolaritieJun 18, 20141 votes

Stronger? They moved power out of spear and into cougar. They also did some long-overdue quality of life on pounce/swipe.

Have you even played her after the changes?

Commando YiJun 19, 20141 votes

I have seen the absurdity of her ability to kill people from full hp at level 2 along with the impossibility of catching her at any point in the game unless you are nocturne

I've been playing skarner lately so haven't had time to try nid but by the numbers alone and what i've seen of her do to others she's too strong right now and has emerged as the most dominant top laner

the damage on the spears haven't changed by any meaningful amounts, she's gone from killing you with 2 spears to killing you with 2 spears.

Stronger? They moved power out of spear and into cougar. They also did some long-overdue quality of life on pounce/swipe.

Have you even played her after the changes?

P4rzivalJun 21, 20141 votes

Have you seen how bloody hard it is to hit a spear? They're tiny.

WorgslargJun 18, 20141 votes

They took power from her spears, and moved it to the rest of her kit, so she's not a walking spear-chucking healer. That said, imo her cougar/ trap damage was overbuffed, and should be nerfed a bit.

P4rzivalJun 18, 20141 votes

Her spears are so much harder to hit, and now you really need to think about placing traps. That said, if it becomes a problem the best thing riot could do is either make them slightly more visible or reduce the time they stay on the field, so a trap you placed two minutes ago doesn't get you a kill now. She's not teemo :P

PolaritieJun 19, 20141 votes

Her traps are only painful if you're at high health. The less health you have, the less they hurt.

They also have shit scaling.

P4rzivalJun 21, 20141 votes

The traps aren't the major issue, the big damage comes from the Hunted rebuff you get from them that allows Nid's new cougar form to do insane damage.

PolaritieJun 21, 20141 votes

Actually, only Takedown gets a damage boost from hunted. Swipe just resets Pounce, and Pounce just gets much more range to get you onto them. Almost all the damage of the combo is there without hunted.

And since hunted is short lived, a trap two minutes ago probably isn't anywhere near you (outside of laning) so you can't combo off it anyways.

Hyrum GraffJun 19, 20141 votes

The purpose of reworking her was to make her healthy, aka, fun to play with/against.

Before, while it was tons of fun to play nid, playing against her just wasn't fun. No matter what the circumstances, when a single basic ability with a short CD and low mana cost chunks you for 75% of your hp, it just doesn't feel fair.

That's not to say Nid was OP - she wasn't, because her only other damage was melee, and she was squishy AF - but she was anti-fun to play against.

Nid was also anti-fun to play with: because she had NO teamfight potential, you were forced into sitting around and waiting for her to land a spear, or getting engaged on and feeling like you're in a 4v5.

####tl;dr she may or may not be OP now. If she is, Riot can nerf her. If she's not, they'll leave her be. But either way, she has more to do than chuck spears and run away.