@Riot Champion unlocking?

ChaosThief·Mar 24, 2014·3 votes·875 views

It really seems frustrating to try and unlock all the champions you want, because of how long it takes to get the IP for them. So what if...

You get a token every once in a while. You use this token on a champion. You then get to use this champion either a) against other players who used tokens, or b) you get 3 games and if you win the majority(2/3 or 3/3) you unlock the champion.

This would reward players who really know how to play a champion.

Feedback would be nice :)

EDIT: So far so good! But if someone could please respond about the IP increase, that would be great.

EDIT 2: This isn't meant to be a charity service, just to help a bit with the sometimes overbearing IP costs of champions.

32 Comments

Krypton1Mar 24, 20144 votes

This has the potential of being abused. I can see it now:

"Hey let's team swap, we'll win 2/3 or 3/3 games all unlock our new champ, and then when we get another token we'll let you guys 5v5 us!"

Or:

"OH SWEET MOTHER OF ALL THAT'S HOLY I CAN'T CARRY TRASH PLAYERS, I KEEP LOSING TOKENS THIS IS STUPID I'LL NEVER GET A NEW CHAMP WITH SO MANY SCRUBS!"

It's an interesting idea, and since Riot does make a good chunk of money off of skins over champ purchases I do wish they would make it faster to farm IP for champs/runes instead of how it is now. Fine tune this a little more though I think you're on the right track!

ChaosThiefMar 25, 20141 votes

The first one sounds like account boosting. First off, no custom games would allow this, as it would be broken. And second, It takes ages for early players to get champions(reason why I'm asking riot about this, which may take ages to reach them.)

3rd: The second "Or" sounds like a guy who doesn't deserve the champion. If he plays with "trash people" he has no respect/makes mistakes and blames others.

Thanks for the feedback!

Only Play NidMar 25, 20142 votes

Or we could just increase IP gains to compensate...

ChaosThiefMar 25, 20141 votes

I replied to another one earlier, but same message. How much do you increase the IP gains?

Only Play NidMar 25, 20141 votes

What were IP gains originally? Ratio of IP1:Champs1 to IP2:Champs2.

ChaosThiefApr 2, 20141 votes

Its around, If i'm doing this correctly, 1 IP per 20 seconds?????

A full game of about 40 minutes gives around 70 IP; a riot member is the only one who really knows how IP is gained, but it takes me about a month for a 6300 champion.

Only Play NidApr 6, 20141 votes

Not what I meant. Let´s say there was 20 champs in league originally, and you got 100IP a win. Now there´s 110 or so champs and we get like 70IP for some reason. Maths should tell us that the IP gains now should be proportional to what they were if you wanna be fair about it. I.E. 100/20 = x/110 which means mathematically we should get 550IP to keep the balance. But those are not the actual numbers. The equation would look like this. X = champs and y = IP. Y1/X1 = Y2/X2. However 550 is a little high, so maybe cut the number in half so that it doesn't get toooo crazy. I'd say 250 a win and 500 a daily double win would be good. With that you would have to win 24 games to get a new champ. At an Average of 45 minutes a game, that would be 18 hours more or less to get a new champ @ 6300IP and I would make the generalized statement that people play probably about 3 hours or so a day which gives you 6 days for a new champ, or a new champ about every week.

ChaosThiefApr 7, 20141 votes

That actually sounds nice, but sometimes you really go "I want to play this champion, he looks fun", and then you play them and suck (FE, singed for me. I play too aggressive and less farm machine)

If they preform poorly, it might be better if they didn't have the champion.

Chun ChunMar 25, 20142 votes

I HIGHLY AGREE WITH THIS BECAUSE SOME LOL PLAYERS DONT PLAY AS MUCH AND DONT REALLY GET THE CHAMPIONS THEY WOULD PERFER.

Angry MonsterMar 25, 20142 votes

if you want champs and refuse to earn them then pay for them

ChaosThiefMar 25, 20141 votes

Thing is, not everyone has the money to buy all the champs, even with RP.

650 RP is 5 dollars, 1350 RP is 10 dollars, so about 7 dollars per 6300 champion, which is a bit rediculous to earn if you play casually (Which frankly people don't even do anymore, except in groups.)

It isn't like you get 1000 tries to earn the champ, or you get a ton of tokens; it just gives you the ability to get a champion every once in a while(if you know how to use them that is).

Angry MonsterMar 26, 20142 votes

if you play casually you don't need every champ....

If you really want a certain champ you will pay for it.

Free champ rotations allow you to try will out risk. So you will never have to worry about knowing if X champs is good for you.

I really dont see an issue with current system. You have an opportunity to earn for free or buy out right and help riot do what we like.

The current system quite fine

ChaosThiefApr 2, 20141 votes

Currently for me, if I did the math right, it takes 1 month for me to get a 6300 from a few games a day.

Also some people need their wallets to recover after all the skins.

Angry MonsterApr 3, 20141 votes

those are choices that you are making. No one is forcing you to do anything.

ChaosThiefApr 4, 20141 votes

That's correct, but nobody likes a grind fest.

Angry MonsterApr 4, 20141 votes

this a free to play game. Riot has to make there money some way. If you want to not have a grind then buy IP boosts. The 3 days one can be quite afforibale over all

U either grind or pay in this game. PICK

ChaosThiefApr 7, 20141 votes

I forgot to mention this a while ago: did you really need to use all caps for that message?

Kledy McKledFaceMar 25, 20142 votes

Just increase IP gain

ChaosThiefMar 25, 20141 votes

By how much? They could double the amount and it would still take quite a bit of time.

Ku renzMar 25, 20141 votes

Ye since the champion count is over 100 Now i'd like them to implement a new way similar to yours so it'd be easy to get champions especially with all these new rune changes that are going to come which will eat a majority of players IP.

ChaosThiefMar 25, 20141 votes

Agreed.

Plus runes. God runes are just absolute hell to finish.

Angry MonsterMar 25, 20141 votes

i am seeing people say. Increases IP generation in response. do people forget this is not a charity.

if you don't want to earn the champs then buy them and help riot pay the bills.

ChaosThiefMar 25, 20141 votes

It isn't charity work though, it would be, if I made an estimate, 1 champion every 3/6 months or so, not often at all, and this is for any price champion. And that is if you can PLAY the champion.

A risk reward system for good players to get the champs they want.

jwf999Mar 25, 20141 votes

Riot has a great system now with teh free champs in stuff put plz put yorick in the free rotation

ChaosThiefMar 25, 20141 votes

Yorick is being reworked; only reason he isn't there. I've tried him, he is really really boring after a while. Full tank is hilarious though.

jwf999Mar 26, 20141 votes

Not really other champs were aviable wehn they were being reworked I mean he hasn't been in the rotation for a year+

ChaosThiefApr 7, 20141 votes

Again, forgot to comment this a while back, Yorick is kinda the "mash your face on the keyboard" lane bully, he's currently really boring, and they want to make him enjoyable before put back into free week.

EDIT: you may want to use spell check at some point and time.

jwf999Apr 11, 20141 votes

Well screw you on the spell check thing and yorick is actually very fun to play thank you very much.

ChaosThiefApr 13, 20141 votes

From time to time yes, but he kind of seems like "slam your face on keyboard" character.

And never screw spell check. It can save you some embarrassment.

jwf999Apr 14, 20141 votes

Hes really not.

Hirav3thMar 25, 20141 votes

Same

ChaosThiefApr 7, 20141 votes

For some reason, it denied me from continuing that comment from reply, so I have to create another comment string.

Quote from Kchaosrei: "this a free to play game. Riot has to make there money some way. If you want to not have a grind then buy IP boosts. The 3 days one can be quite afforibale over all

U either grind or pay in this game. PICK"

You are implying that the only way riot makes money is from players using IP for champions, from what I see. There are plently of skins and other things which you can buy; and champions are one of many options.

On a side note, not everybody is an adult playing this (the classic "rage kid" who is terrible, blames others, just looks stupid in general" person can exist. Less games with a person like that can be good, but not the point.

RP is not solely for champions or IP boosts. Think about that before replying.